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[Giles]

Always got better results precontest with winny tabs myself.

Anavar I got a little stronger but no hugely noticeable effect to my physique to be honest.

But those 50mg stromba tabs? Transformed on those in days. Oohh wheeee.

[Howard]

Always got better results precontest with winny tabs myself.
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* except I never used any winnie tabs, my experience is limited to winnie-V injections ( 2-3 ml , twice a week pre-contest 7-8 weeks)

I have a very limited experience with drug cycles, but the winnie-V made a noticeable difference, FAST.
My skin got paper thin on winnieV and I achieved that rock hard look under the harsh stage lights.
Cracked me up, how the box label had a horse head logo on it hahaha.
This was the first time I got the "shrink wrapped" look when I flexed hard.

I remember seeing sprinter Ben Johnson line up for 100m final at the 1988 Olympics.
I thought, " OMG! That guy looks like he's on winnie-V" * Turns out he really was and ended up being dq'd by drug test.

Was offered a good deal on some anavar tabes but had to decline . I lived on a really tight budget ( aka piss broke ) during the mid 80's.

Looking back over 30 years ago, I would have used a LOT more juice, if I had the $$

[Giles]

* except I never used any winnie tabs, my experience is limited to winnie-V injections ( 2-3 ml , twice a week pre-contest 7-8 weeks)

I have a very limited experience with drug cycles, but the winnie-V made a noticeable difference, FAST.
My skin got paper thin on winnieV and I achieved that rock hard look under the harsh stage lights.
Cracked me up, how the box label had a horse head logo on it hahaha.
This was the first time I got the "shrink wrapped" look when I flexed hard.

I remember seeing sprinter Ben Johnson line up for 100m final at the 1988 Olympics.
I thought, " OMG! That guy looks like he's on winnie-V" * Turns out he really was and ended up being dq'd by drug test.

Was offered a good deal on some anavar tabes but had to decline . I lived on a really tight budget ( aka piss broke ) during the mid 80's.

Looking back over 30 years ago, I would have used a LOT more juice, if I had the $$

Loved using winny jabs too for shows.

Three times a week I’d do a double shot (2 x 50mg amps) in my Bumcheeks.

Stung like hell to pin but mannnnn, the results were worth it.

Good times man. Winny days. Sigh.

[Howard]

Loved using winny jabs too for shows.

Three times a week I’d do a double shot (2 x 50mg amps) in my Bumcheeks.

Stung like hell to pin but mannnnn, the results were worth it.

Good times man. Winny days. Sigh.

"Bumcheeks"

[Giles]

"Bumcheeks"

British term for gluteus maximus.

[lifepulse]

The few clients I had who pinned winny, had a rough time, VERY painful post-injection, to the point of immobilizing their shoulders. So I've had people stray from it. Tabs still seem to work very well. And agreed that winny seems to have a far more pronounced cosmetic effect than Anavar.

-David

[Howard]

The few clients I had who pinned winny, had a rough time, VERY painful post-injection, to the point of immobilizing their shoulders. So I've had people stray from it. Tabs still seem to work very well. And agreed that winny seems to have a far more pronounced cosmetic effect than Anavar.

-David

My use of Winnie V was 34-35 years ago, so things may be different now.
The 10 ml viles I used were labeled * "Vet use only" with a horsehead logo.
But it was legit stuff from Upjohn.

I've had no experience with any of these drugs for over 30 yrs, but I'll take a guess.
Since it's vet grade , the drug today is not 100% sterile?
That would cause an adverse reaction and painful swelling at the injection site.

[Giles]

The few clients I had who pinned winny, had a rough time, VERY painful post-injection, to the point of immobilizing their shoulders. So I've had people stray from it. Tabs still seem to work very well. And agreed that winny seems to have a far more pronounced cosmetic effect than Anavar.

-David

Aaaaaghhh, why would anyone shoot their delts with winny? It’s water based so has to go in deep in the glute or the chance for infection drastically increases.

I remember traveling to the 2001 Olympia with a friend who’d just won two shows that ended up with a severe infection and big hole left in his left side delt from shooting it shallow with winny.

Had to change his gauze and dressing every day out there, wanted to throw up every time I removed the old dressing. All that gunk, ughhhh. Man.

Green pin, to the hilt in the glute for winny, or nothing. Take something else. Water based gear is very risky unless jabbed deeply.

[lifepulse]

Aaaaaghhh, why would anyone shoot their delts with winny? It’s water based so has to go in deep in the glute or the chance for infection drastically increases.

I remember traveling to the 2001 Olympia with a friend who’d just won two shows that ended up with a severe infection and big hole left in his left side delt from shooting it shallow with winny.

Had to change his gauze and dressing every day out there, wanted to throw up every time I removed the old dressing. All that gunk, ughhhh. Man.

Green pin, to the hilt in the glute for winny, or nothing. Take something else. Water based gear is very risky unless jabbed deeply.

I actually never knew that Giles, thanks so much for sharing! (Makes me kind of ashamed to not know that, not sure how I never picked it up.) I imagine it's because I just haven't seen much injectable winny in my years, it's almost ALWAYS been tablets, since I started out with gear (2009). Seemed injectable was never "hip" in the circles I ran, not sure why.

Yeah, I had one competitor screw up his shoulder pretty bad, and he decided one week out to pull out and not do the show. It was kind of a nightmare.

-David

[Giles]

I actually never knew that Giles, thanks so much for sharing! (Makes me kind of ashamed to not know that, not sure how I never picked it up.) I imagine it's because I just haven't seen much injectable winny in my years, it's almost ALWAYS been tablets, since I started out with gear (2009). Seemed injectable was never "hip" in the circles I ran, not sure why.

Yeah, I had one competitor screw up his shoulder pretty bad, and he decided one week out to pull out and not do the show. It was kind of a nightmare.

-David

I tell you what is MUCH worse mate, OIL based winny! That stuff is EVIL!

I was given some for a show once and I had to stop using it, my ass hurt so much it was difficult to walk, sit, train! Agony. Chucked it in the bin.

Water based winny I always said go for the best possible brand as if the pharmaceutical winny is tricky for getting infections then imagine a back street lab winny? I swear one guy showed me a hole in the side of his hip/glute that you could fit a bunch of keys in!

I preferred winny tabs but man, get a blood test when you’re on them and prepare for horrific readings! Levels all over the place. But dammit those 50mg tabs are SO great to be on. Fast acting and you look great on them.

If I was to compete again though it would have to be winny jabs, best possible brand I could find!

Although, my ex gf, her coach had her drinking her winstrol amps!

[Griff11]

I prefer anavar in the off season. Great strength increase no water gain and less toxic.

I prefer a combo of winny and var when prepping. Add mast and it will dry you out nicely. There is also some evidence of var being able to burn belly fat. Add some frag 176 in the last few weeks crispy af

[Giles]

I prefer anavar in the off season. Great strength increase no water gain and less toxic.

I prefer a combo of winny and var when prepping. Add mast and it will dry you out nicely. There is also some evidence of var being able to burn belly fat. Add some frag 176 in the last few weeks crispy af

Spoke to a record holding powerlifter once and he told me a supposed ‘insider secret’ that high dose var with test cyp was INCREDIBLE for strength.

70mg var daily he said, can’t remember how much cyp.

I remember when I was 18 years old and on a stack of dbol and cyp I pretty much doubled my strength on some lifts.

Was incline pressing 30kg dumbells at the start of the course and was banging out 55kg’s each hand for 10-12 by the end of it.

Ahh, thems was the days.

My Dad finding needles in my bin TWICE wasn’t funny though. Almost felt guilty COMPLETELY lying my way out of it blaming my training partner who I UTTERLY bullshitted-on-the-spot wanted to BE ME!

Just like his good ol’ natty pal Giles ha ha haaaaa.

[Griff11]

Spoke to a record holding powerlifter once and he told me a supposed ‘insider secret’ that high dose var with test cyp was INCREDIBLE for strength.

70mg var daily he said, can’t remember how much cyp.

I remember when I was 18 years old and on a stack of dbol and cyp I pretty much doubled my strength on some lifts.

Was incline pressing 30kg dumbells at the start of the course and was banging out 55kg’s each hand for 10-12 by the end of it.

Ahh, thems was the days.

My Dad finding needles in my bin TWICE wasn’t funny though. Almost felt guilty COMPLETELY lying my way out of it blaming my training partner who I UTTERLY bullshitted-on-the-spot wanted to BE ME!

Just like his good ol’ natty pal Giles ha ha haaaaa.

I remember my first run. Searle Labs 2.5 mg blue oblong tabs. I think I only hit 15 mg with 35 mg of dbol. I blew up and got super strong. I never could cyp or test e because of drug testing. Test suspension amps. The shit hurt like a bastard. I pinned my calves I thought I'd jump higher lol

[Big Beat]

My Dad finding needles in my bin TWICE wasn’t funny though. Almost felt guilty COMPLETELY lying my way out of it blaming my training partner who I UTTERLY bullshitted-on-the-spot wanted to BE ME!

Just like his good ol’ natty pal Giles ha ha haaaaa.

Haha........quality...


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