MD Chemical Corner | A Closer Look at Oxandrolone

[Howard]

I prefer anavar in the off season. Great strength increase no water gain and less toxic.

I prefer a combo of winny and var when prepping. Add mast and it will dry you out nicely. There is also some evidence of var being able to burn belly fat. Add some frag 176 in the last few weeks crispy af

That was the experience most anavar users had when I was competing.
I know this sounds goofy, but I never took juice for mass or strength.
My only concern was getting that "shrink wrap" look when I flexed on stage.

WinnieV 2-3 ml twice a week for 8 weeks, pre-exhaust super sets for amazing pumps and a low cal/low fat diet , was the ticket for me.

I tried a few light cycles of various test and decca injections .
Never got much from 'em but I was piss broke and could only afford the bare minimum LOL.

Looking back I' glad I tried some " real juice" in the 80's .
BUT, I'm glad I couldn't afford much and have no problems now 35 years later.

[Howard]

I remember my first run. Searle Labs 2.5 mg blue oblong tabs. I think I only hit 15 mg with 35 mg of dbol. I blew up and got super strong. I never could cyp or test e because of drug testing. Test suspension amps. The shit hurt like a bastard. I pinned my calves I thought I'd jump higher lol

I actually saw a national level guy, pin his claves with some odd drug to make that swollen and blow up ( escalene ?)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't synthol and he had to wait 15 min for it to make his calves swell.
The injection site got red and swollen for a few minutes and then the belly of his calf muscle got swollen.
It must have been painful because he winced and grimaced with some gaspingaaaaaaaahhhs

Any idea what this substance was ?

[Griff11]

I actually saw a national level guy, pin his claves with some odd drug to make that swollen and blow up ( escalene ?)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't synthol and he had to wait 15 min for it to make his calves swell.
The injection site got red and swollen for a few minutes and then the belly of his calf muscle got swollen.
It must have been painful because he winced and grimaced with some gaspingaaaaaaaahhhs

Any idea what this substance was ?

Sounds like escalene. Temporary pop

[Giles]

Haha........quality...


(MD badly needs a proper laughing emoji)

Looking back mate I know my Dad knew I was lying out of my ass, I guess it was a warning.

He found a broken amp of sust and one of deca, took them to a local pharmacist and asked what they were.

Pharmacist said the sust was ‘adrenalin’ and the deca was an anabolic steroid.

I’d hidden the needles and amps in a Twinlab Gainers Fuel bar box in my bedroom bin. Lazy of me really, kinda dumb move.

But I was 18 and squatting 4 plates a side and eating like a maniac spending the entire summer of ‘94 with my Weider exercise bike wedged up against my door (so no one could burst in) as me and my posh girlfriend humped our way through it.

Sigh, good times man. We were Kings back then.

[Giles]

Sounds like escalene. Temporary pop

Remember having a conversation with Vince Taylor in ‘95 about how much he loved esiclene.

Said “Giles, if you can get me any I will send a private jet for you”.

He said he used to pop it in his biceps and calves. When he could get it. Weird as they were his two best bodyparts.

[Giles]

Sounds like escalene. Temporary pop

About 20 years ago I was in Italy and the person I was with had a meeting in a remote cafe with one of Europe’s biggest steroid dealers, he was actually under house arrest so was very nervous and shifty when we saw him.

He put a box of winny amps and a box of esiclene on the table, then pulled out the same again and put them next to the first set of boxes.

He explained that one (of each) was fake and one was real, told us the price differences for each. You literally could not tell them apart.

Nolitol then became the instant site enhancement jan of choice in Europe. 5 x 5ml amps, supposed to be drank (if I remember correctly), and mega cheap to buy from Spanish pharmacies, but some bright spark thought “I wonder what will happen if I inject this into my triceps?”

And voila. It worked. Didn’t blur the injection site like esiclene did (if not done with expertise).

[Howard]

About 20 years ago I was in Italy and the person I was with had a meeting in a remote cafe with one of Europe’s biggest steroid dealers, he was actually under house arrest so was very nervous and shifty when we saw him.

He put a box of winny amps and a box of esiclene on the table, then pulled out the same again and put them next to the first set of boxes.

He explained that one (of each) was fake and one was real, told us the price differences for each. You literally could not tell them apart.

Nolitol then became the instant site enhancement jan of choice in Europe. 5 x 5ml amps, supposed to be drank (if I remember correctly), and mega cheap to buy from Spanish pharmacies, but some bright spark thought “I wonder what will happen if I inject this into my triceps?”

And voila. It worked. Didn’t blur the injection site like esiclene did (if not done with expertise).

Thanks for sharing this experience. Interesting to learn how common and effective those site injections are.

I've had numerous hardcore guys seem quite nervous and outright paranoid around me.
While I have my opinions on drugs, I never tried to getting anyone busted .
LOL, I'm just an average meathead with no special authority or connections, etc.