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  • #31
    they should ban smoking in the military

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    • #32
      Quite a few us servicemembers are bodybuilders.

      On one of my earlier deployments, the base that I was deployed to had a bodybuilding competition for both men & women...

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      • #33
        sweet bro. The NPC has the all forces contest. I am doing it next year.

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        • #34
          I think if you can handle your workload you should be able to do whatever the hell you want. what is this shit with a stationary bike, that's not a test of your physical abilities, that is just some overweight out of shape major, or sgtmaj who doesn't want to get in shape so he figures out a way for him to cheat, and in that he has to allow everyone else to do it. I am in the USMC, and not only is our pft a 3 mile run, 20 pull ups and 100 crunches in 2 minutes, now we have a combat fitness test which is a little more demanding. I am 252lbs at 6ft and I have competed for 5 years, I can always score a high first class pft, even in my worst condition. I am also in the infantry, so I hump the 20-30-40k's with absoluty no problems, I actually push marines to keep up with me, I have gone through sf training and graduated in the top of the class, at my weight. You can be big and still keep up with the "crossfit" guys, I run four miles every other day and then do sprints on the days between.
          Just because someone decided to join the military doesnt mean they lose the right to lead whatever lifestyle they want to live, they just need to be able to perform their duties and perform them well. if they want to be a 300lb mass monster, so be it, but they better be able to carry their workload, if they want to smoke, who cares, does your boss at your civilian job say "hey you need to quite smokin or I'll fire you" when you hack up a lung? my guess is no. I am the type of guy that sees everything as a challenge, I signed the contract and now it is my duty to perform to the highest standard, I think that oughta be the attitude anyone in the service should have, on all aspects of life. if you are above average at what you do, no one will ever question your personal choices.

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          • #35
            I am 100% for the military members to pursue their passion of bodybuilding. The point of where it becomes a problem is where the person does not keep up with their branch's fitness tests. I am about 5' 10'' and 215 at the moment but I can still run a 3 mile in under 22 minutes, and still get the max points for pull ups and sit ups. I cannot say the same with all bodybuilders that I see but that is their problem. Their command can reprimand accordingly. Who says since a man/woman joins the service that they cant body build anymore? And that whole elliptical and stationary bike bullshit for the overall cardiovascular fitness is complete and utter horse shit. But hey thats why I joined the hardest branch of the service. I hold myself and my Marines to higher standards. Additionally, I know Marines who smoke that will absolutely crush ANYBODY that would step up to them in a run or anything otherwise. If they choose to smoke thats their decision. The entire military needs to hold itself to a higher standard. Sailors, Airmen, Soldiers and even some fucking Marines for God sakes who are fat as the Marshmallow Man go home and say they are in the military and people step back and laugh to themselves saying "What the fuck....?" I think it should be on the individual whether or not they can strike a balance between bodybuilding and being able to be fit. And the ones who are too ignorant and stubborn to chose between the two factors....fuck em.

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            • #36
              Service members should definately be able to be bodybuilders. Hell, there is a female Gunnery Seargent where I'm stationed who competed in bodybuilding for sometime and did rather well, not entirely sure if she still competes. Jamie Troxel is her name, and she can do more pull ups then half of the male Marines here.

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              • #37
                I am a sailor. NOT a foot soldier. My ship is only 500 ft. long. The navy brought the elliptical, and bike as a way to eliminate excuses from people who are limited duty. You marines are held to a different standard due to being soldiers. I am trying to hold onto as much mass as possible. I also partially tore my patella tendon in my knee and the navy told me they dont fix partial tears, so that bike is a good option for me. its ok. THE NAVY SEALS are the best. They have all the fitness and the brains too. I am going to stick to my ships and navy. No hoorah for me.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JudgeJustice View Post
                  Service members should definately be able to be bodybuilders. Hell, there is a female Gunnery Seargent where I'm stationed who competed in bodybuilding for sometime and did rather well, not entirely sure if she still competes. Jamie Troxel is her name, and she can do more pull ups then half of the male Marines here.

                  I thought the name was familiar ... http://www.herbiceps.com/free/picthu...el/index01.htm

                  2nd placein the Lightweights at the 2005 Nationals... that was a great show w/ some really amazing competitors!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BigSwole33 View Post
                    I am a sailor. NOT a foot soldier. My ship is only 500 ft. long. The navy brought the elliptical, and bike as a way to eliminate excuses from people who are limited duty. You marines are held to a different standard due to being soldiers. I am trying to hold onto as much mass as possible. I also partially tore my patella tendon in my knee and the navy told me they dont fix partial tears, so that bike is a good option for me. its ok. THE NAVY SEALS are the best. They have all the fitness and the brains too. I am going to stick to my ships and navy. No hoorah for me.
                    Ok, Being on ship is another story, but it is not an excuse for injury, in the USMC, if your injured to the point that you cannot perform your regular duties, you get put on a medical board and seperated from the military, unless it is combat related. and for a shipman to say "SEALS ARE THE BEST" is like one of our admin paper pushing marines saying recon is the best. tell you the truth, I think delta or ODA is probably the best. seals in country are usually lazy and erogant. hey they worked hard and earned the title navy seal, but they definately aren't what one would expect, same with recon and the green hats.

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                    • #40
                      I am 100% for the military members to pursue their passion of bodybuilding. The point of where it becomes a problem is where the person does not keep up with their branch's fitness tests. I am about 5' 10'' and 215 at the moment but I can still run a 3 mile in under 22 minutes, and still get the max points for pull ups and sit ups. I cannot say the same with all bodybuilders that I see but that is their problem. Their command can reprimand accordingly. Who says since a man/woman joins the service that they cant body build anymore? And that whole elliptical and stationary bike bullshit for the overall cardiovascular fitness is complete and utter horse shit. But hey thats why I joined the hardest branch of the service. I hold myself and my Marines to higher standards. Additionally, I know Marines who smoke that will absolutely crush ANYBODY that would step up to them in a run or anything otherwise. If they choose to smoke thats their decision. The entire military needs to hold itself to a higher standard. Sailors, Airmen, Soldiers and even some fucking Marines for God sakes who are fat as the Marshmallow Man go home and say they are in the military and people step back and laugh to themselves saying "What the fuck....?" I think it should be on the individual whether or not they can strike a balance between bodybuilding and being able to be fit. And the ones who are too ignorant and stubborn to chose between the two factors....fuck em.


                      HELL YEA! I am an airman, and there is a SSgt in my shop who just failed his third pt test to deploy to the desert. He has been on CFIT or what ever the fuck it is called for the past six months that he has been in my shop. I do avionics, and I am the only one of the specialists that gives a damn about pt standards, and yet I get random testing because I actually give a shit. So this Ssgt not only could not deploy, but he dicked over another Ssgt that just got back because now he has to leave his family and head back over there. Now the Ssgt did not complain about having to back over there on such short notice, but I see special force instructors who look like the marshmellow man. And normally these fat asses come in with their uniforms looking like they are wadded up in the corners of their rooms. Have a little bit of fucking pride in yourself and your service. I am tired of them bringing our image down. But not only have I seen this as a huge problem in the AF but I have seen it in all of the branches. Whats even more appauling is that I am on the special operations base.

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                      • #41
                        Well, it really doesnt matter. we all are here to keep the country safe. I was never injured to the point where I could not do my job. The navy medical staff never properly examined me. They try to tell you its a strain first, or tendinitis, and give you meds, or tell you to rest it. Then when you keep coming back for a year they give you an MRI, and tell you its ruptured. However, they never gave me proper care. So, I do my own research and take care of myself. I am in good shape, and pass my PRT with EXCELLENT scores.

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                        • #42
                          haha... they love to make us run 5ks on cement all the time, so people were getting shin splints so bad that the bones were actually fractured. The docs just handed out 500 mg ib profen and gave a waiver. Its a joke. I got bit by a spider (not sure what kind but florida is full of the fun ones) and my hand swelled up, and turned purple. The only part that was white was a little puncture mark. So I waited in the er since it was like 11 at night and I finally saw the Capt, and she sat there for 20 minutes poking at it telling me she had no idea. So the only part that hurt was the white puncture mark. After about five minutes of me telling her that it hurt, and asking her to stop pushing on it if she has no idea whats wrong, she quit. Her prescription was an antibiotic and pain pills... I never took any of it, but all i wanted to know was if it was a poisonous spider. Or one of my friends messed up his acl, and when they went in for surgery they left the forceps inside of his knee... Scary stuff

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                          • #43
                            military medicine is a joke. I had some kind of nerve damage or compression in my right pectoral and its obvious to me but the neurologist, who has done multiple MRI's and only one EMG, is like I dont know, maybe an isolated nerve. wow, Yeah the ER here at balboa hospital blows. I hurt my back doing deads, and waited 5 hours to get seen and get out of there. He just gave me tramadol, motrin, and flexeril. Didnt have a clue what was wrong.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by USMC29 View Post
                                I dont see any problems with it just as long as you make sure you can still pass the PFT
                                This, this, 1000 times, this. What people hate about bodybuilding is the "lack of cardio endurance," which is also stated with, "I don't do cardio because it hurts my gains."

                                Really, that depends on what you do, how you do it, and how you eat.

                                I'm not just a woman, but a woman on birth control so that means extra estrogen in my system. Despite those two "negative" factors, I was still able to get a 1st Class PFT every time because I knew how to run and also lifted. Before I became disabled, I was training for competitive bodybuilding and running 5 times a week on a program an officer buddy of mine gave me. I'd be running 6 miles at a time some days, but still be hitting the gym. I also did yoga, which only helped my gains. I lost fat, gained muscle strength and size, and improved my run time.

                                Believe me, running and bodybuilding aren't mutually exclusive.
                                Why are you wearing that stupid bunny suit?

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