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Do you know what you are injecting when using an underground lab? (Graphic Video)

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    Underground labs are commonly used by guys/gals who administer steroids. UGLís are usually inexpensive and there are plenty to choose from. However there are many inherent risks when using UGLís. These labs do not have to follow any Good Manufacturing Practices and many times are totally unregulated. Pain, swelling and redness at an injection site may be signs of improperly assembled medicines. If sterile practices are not followed you may also end up with an infection leading to an abscess. Additionally you may be injecting the wrong dose or a completely different medicine altogether. When you examine a product it should not contain any sediment or turbidity. Steroids made in an UGL may also contain harmful contaminants like heavy metals such as lead, tin, mercury, and/or arsenic.

    Usually heavy metals are common in chemical-manufacturing operations, but are normally removed through very careful product assembly and purification steps. They are sometimes found in UGL products because the raw materials used to make some of these steroids was simply made ďcheaplyĒ, without the expense needed to hit true drug-grade purity.

    In many Countries its legal to manufacture steroids therefore there should be no reason that a company would conceal how the medicines are made. In the United States we have many manufacturers who have production videos and pictures showing how medicines are assembled in sterile conditions. Watson and Eli Lilly freely let us view their manufacturing processes. We get to see with our own eyes the sterile conditions.



    Why do so many UGLís conceal how their products are made? I donít need an address or any private sensitive information about these labs but why not snap a picture of the equipment and let us see how the products we inject are being assembled? The reason is obvious. Many UGLís are in such poor condition that they donít want us to see them. They sometimes throw together the medicines in dark garages, small dirty apartments or other non-sterile clandestine locations.



    Some UGLís go to great lengths to make their packaging look professional so just looking at the product is not enough to determine purity however there are some tell tail signs to look out for.

    The first thing I look for is the crimp ring on the stopper. If it was done in a factory it usually will be very uniform however if it has been crimped by hand you know it was likely done outside a factory where zero sterile practices are regulated. For all you know, the person making your batch may have just used the bathroom and not washed their hands or even if they have followed sterile practices they likely have no way of testing the purity of the raw materials. Itís unlikely they have a mass spectrometer lying around to determine powder purity. Therefore, even the best home labs may be making contaminated products.

    The next thing I look for is turbidity in the solution. If there is any detectable sediment or cloudiness the product was likely not filtered properly or it was improperly suspended. Look for moisture and crystals in the solution as well. There should be none in oil based products.

    Finally, I inspect the packaging. If labels are put on crooked or words are misspelled this shows a level of carelessness. How can you trust a lab that does not know how to spell or apply a label correctly? Bad packaging practices many times equals bad product.

    Good manufacturing practice
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Good manufacturing practice" or "GMP" is part of a quality system covering the manufacture and testing of pharmaceutical dosage forms or drugs and active pharmaceutical ingredients, diagnostics, foods, pharmaceutical products, and medical devices. GMPs are guidelines that outline the aspects of production and testing that can impact the quality of a product. Many countries have legislated that pharmaceutical and medical device companies must follow GMP procedures, and have created their own GMP guidelines that correspond with their legislation, basic concepts of all these guidelines remains more or less similar that is ultimate goal to produce a good quality medicine or medical devices or active pharmaceutical products.


    Although there are a number of them, all guidelines follow a few basic principles.
    • Manufacturing processes are clearly defined and controlled. All critical processes are validated to ensure consistency and compliance with specifications.
    • Manufacturing processes are controlled, and any changes to the process are evaluated. Changes that have an impact on the quality of the drug are validated as necessary.
    • Instructions and procedures are written in clear and unambiguous language. (Good Documentation Practices)
    • Operators are trained to carry out and document procedures.
    • Records are made, manually or by instruments, during manufacture that demonstrate that all the steps required by the defined procedures and instructions were in fact taken and that the quantity and quality of the drug was as expected. Deviations are investigated and documented.
    • Records of manufacture (including distribution) that enable the complete history of a batch to be traced are retained in a comprehensible and accessible form.
    • The distribution of the drugs minimizes any risk to their quality.
    • A system is available for recalling any batch of drug from sale or supply.
    • Complaints about marketed drugs are examined, the causes of quality defects are investigated, and appropriate measures are taken with respect to the defective drugs and to prevent recurrence.
    GMP guidelines are not prescriptive instructions on how to manufacture products. They are a series of general principles that must be observed during manufacturing. When a company is setting up its quality program and manufacturing process, there may be many ways it can fulfill GMP requirements. It is the company's responsibility to determine the most effective and efficient quality process.
    For more info click here;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_manufacturing_practice

    The bottom line is we all need to look out for our own health. Injecting random products from unknown labs is dangerous and has many inherent risks. If a products price is too good to be true, pause before you buy. You usually get what you pay for. Overhead in a regulated facility costs money. Overhead in a Chinese hut with a dirt floor costs next to nothingÖ

    ~heavyiron
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  • #2
    Originally posted by heavyiron View Post


    Underground labs are commonly used by guys/gals who administer steroids. UGL’s are usually inexpensive and there are plenty to choose from. However there are many inherent risks when using UGL’s. These labs do not have to follow any Good Manufacturing Practices and many times are totally unregulated. Pain, swelling and redness at an injection site may be signs of improperly assembled medicines. If sterile practices are not followed you may also end up with an infection leading to an abscess. Additionally you may be injecting the wrong dose or a completely different medicine altogether. When you examine a product it should not contain any sediment or turbidity. Steroids made in an UGL may also contain harmful contaminants like heavy metals such as lead, tin, mercury, and/or arsenic.

    Usually heavy metals are common in chemical-manufacturing operations, but are normally removed through very careful product assembly and purification steps. They are sometimes found in UGL products because the raw materials used to make some of these steroids was simply made “cheaply”, without the expense needed to hit true drug-grade purity.

    In many Countries its legal to manufacture steroids therefore there should be no reason that a company would conceal how the medicines are made. In the United States we have many manufacturers who have production videos and pictures showing how medicines are assembled in sterile conditions. Watson and Eli Lilly freely let us view their manufacturing processes. We get to see with our own eyes the sterile conditions.



    Why do so many UGL’s conceal how their products are made? I don’t need an address or any private sensitive information about these labs but why not snap a picture of the equipment and let us see how the products we inject are being assembled? The reason is obvious. Many UGL’s are in such poor condition that they don’t want us to see them. They sometimes throw together the medicines in dark garages, small dirty apartments or other non-sterile clandestine locations.



    Some UGL’s go to great lengths to make their packaging look professional so just looking at the product is not enough to determine purity however there are some tell tail signs to look out for.

    The first thing I look for is the crimp ring on the stopper. If it was done in a factory it usually will be very uniform however if it has been crimped by hand you know it was likely done outside a factory where zero sterile practices are regulated. For all you know, the person making your batch may have just used the bathroom and not washed their hands or even if they have followed sterile practices they likely have no way of testing the purity of the raw materials. It’s unlikely they have a mass spectrometer lying around to determine powder purity. Therefore, even the best home labs may be making contaminated products.

    The next thing I look for is turbidity in the solution. If there is any detectable sediment or cloudiness the product was likely not filtered properly or it was improperly suspended. Look for moisture and crystals in the solution as well. There should be none in oil based products.

    Finally, I inspect the packaging. If labels are put on crooked or words are misspelled this shows a level of carelessness. How can you trust a lab that does not know how to spell or apply a label correctly? Bad packaging practices many times equals bad product.

    Good manufacturing practice
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Good manufacturing practice" or "GMP" is part of a quality system covering the manufacture and testing of pharmaceutical dosage forms or drugs and active pharmaceutical ingredients, diagnostics, foods, pharmaceutical products, and medical devices. GMPs are guidelines that outline the aspects of production and testing that can impact the quality of a product. Many countries have legislated that pharmaceutical and medical device companies must follow GMP procedures, and have created their own GMP guidelines that correspond with their legislation, basic concepts of all these guidelines remains more or less similar that is ultimate goal to produce a good quality medicine or medical devices or active pharmaceutical products.


    Although there are a number of them, all guidelines follow a few basic principles.
    • Manufacturing processes are clearly defined and controlled. All critical processes are validated to ensure consistency and compliance with specifications.
    • Manufacturing processes are controlled, and any changes to the process are evaluated. Changes that have an impact on the quality of the drug are validated as necessary.
    • Instructions and procedures are written in clear and unambiguous language. (Good Documentation Practices)
    • Operators are trained to carry out and document procedures.
    • Records are made, manually or by instruments, during manufacture that demonstrate that all the steps required by the defined procedures and instructions were in fact taken and that the quantity and quality of the drug was as expected. Deviations are investigated and documented.
    • Records of manufacture (including distribution) that enable the complete history of a batch to be traced are retained in a comprehensible and accessible form.
    • The distribution of the drugs minimizes any risk to their quality.
    • A system is available for recalling any batch of drug from sale or supply.
    • Complaints about marketed drugs are examined, the causes of quality defects are investigated, and appropriate measures are taken with respect to the defective drugs and to prevent recurrence.
    GMP guidelines are not prescriptive instructions on how to manufacture products. They are a series of general principles that must be observed during manufacturing. When a company is setting up its quality program and manufacturing process, there may be many ways it can fulfill GMP requirements. It is the company's responsibility to determine the most effective and efficient quality process.
    For more info click here;

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_manufacturing_practice

    The bottom line is we all need to look out for our own health. Injecting random products from unknown labs is dangerous and has many inherent risks. If a products price is too good to be true, pause before you buy. You usually get what you pay for. Overhead in a regulated facility costs money. Overhead in a Chinese hut with a dirt floor costs next to nothing…

    ~heavyiron
    Nasty Stuff in those videos. Whats scary that you can pay a lot and get bad gear anyways which is usually the worst case scenario.

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    • #3
      there are some very good ugls out there. but yes i agree you have to be VERY VERY carful with labs and sources.
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      These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.

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      • #4
        Good article, had a guy locally who does UGL, it all sounded good until he described the deep abscess he had in his delt. Ok bye bye. Even better to go with places like World Pharma and the like.

        AZZA

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        • #5
          Google staph infection.....I would post pics but I cant look at it long enough to copy.

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          • #6
            I used test e from Aburaihan, 250mg per 1ml vials. very high quality test(in terms of what I gained and how I felt). But I developed an abscess(minor small bump) on one of the injection sites around week 5. Not sure if this has anything to do with this.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by brundel View Post
              Google staph infection.....I would post pics but I cant look at it long enough to copy.
              that's nothing. look at pics of people with necrotizing fasciitis from MRSA infections.
              "I like them more around the age of 10 or so that way I can think of your physique because I'm so hopelessly in love with your body" - killinweights

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              • #8
                U guys wanna see a really bad side effect of AAS......Google Branch warren
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuhTBVT7X0s Kenny Powers

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                • #9
                  HAHA^^^



                  HEY HEAVY FOR SERIOUS YOU ARE A MOD ON A BOARD SPONSERED BY UGLS.....HAVE YOU TRIED ONE PERSONALLY?


                  WHAT I MEAN REALLY IS HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A UGL YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE USING?
                  Last edited by TheKillerOfSaints; May 1, 2011, 09:57 PM.
                  "NOTHING IS TRIVIAL"

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                  • #10
                    it s a gamble, like a lot of other stuff is in life. I personally spend the few extra bucks and go with pharmaceutical brands
                    I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by Me.
                    JESUS THE CHRIST

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RockyIII View Post
                      it s a gamble, like a lot of other stuff is in life. I personally spend the few extra bucks and go with pharmaceutical brands
                      Problem is they can be faked too?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by the-unnatural View Post
                        Problem is they can be faked too?
                        you gotta know your source
                        I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by Me.
                        JESUS THE CHRIST

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RockyIII View Post
                          you gotta know your source
                          no such thing as pharm grade tren...
                          Like all true bodybuilders I get my supplements from www.truenutrition.com use discount code BIGOSO

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bigoso View Post
                            no such thing as pharm grade tren...
                            wsnt talking about tren obviously, but i do trust my tren more than anything else since i make it myself and i know exactly what s going into it.
                            whenit comes to test,deca,etc. i go with Schiff and Organon
                            I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by Me.
                            JESUS THE CHRIST

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                            • #15
                              here is what I would like to know. When you do get a mild swelling/light abscess from an injection site, how do you know whether this was just an unsafely administered injection that resulted in an infection or it was in reality bad quality gear with germs or just overall made in horrible conditions?

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