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  • #76
    Originally posted by SuperMasko View Post
    um have you seen Ronnies form on his heavy T Bar rows?
    I wasn't being snide. I don't know Coleman, but I doubt he would suggest you use max weight with his form on that exercise. My point was that if you have a trainer with that kind of training knowledge...listen. I also did state people grow differently with different exercise form and type.

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    • #77
      amazing to see that Kai an 2 time arnold classic winner ( my visualization lol ) can still improve on his training
      would love to see the difference if he trained with Dorian for 3 months
      i would buy that dvd , come on MD make it happen !!!!!

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      • #78
        because these guys are gifted... dont u guys understand when u are genetically gifted u just need some kind of resistance and you will grow..if these guys learn how to actually train properly they will grow much more... instead of upping the dosages all the time and and making gains harder, Ronnie Coleman its another story.

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        • #79
          DOrian is a very smart guy. But Kai isnt listening to him, hes having the honor to train with this great and he isnt listening to the fuckin guy

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          • #80
            i dont understand y some of u guys say that kai isnt listening hes always that way in all his videos , look at the ones with charles glass hes the same way hes always all tired and shit when hes dietin but i dwouldnt ay that hes not listening
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            • #81
              Originally posted by otus View Post
              These guys are f*ing morons!!! How hard is it to follow simple direction!??!

              It's not like Dorian is asking them to find the derivative of the secant line of f(x).

              Oscar is a JOOOOOOOKKEEEE!!!! His ass is out of breath on the stairmaster going slow as hell. C'mon dude, kids have more stamina than Oscar.

              Oscar thinks he was in Blood and Guts! He was so nice, then when he does the first lat exercise he's moaning, screaming, likes hes doing some heavy weights.

              They both had to use straps for 225 deadlifts. Thats pathetic. Dorian put oscars ass in place, telling him that he "needs to start putting some f*ing weight" on the deadlift. Oscar did 10 reps for 225 and was way to dramatic.

              Kai is a dumbass. He thinks he some sort of guru, talking like he's smart. He tries to use big words but he just can't pull it off. He's always trying to make his speeches legendary like if his words are going to be compared to Gandhi. He looked like a boy, taking advice from Dorian...like he never knew how to workout or something. He couldn't even do the first exercise the right way...WHAT A DUMBASS!! How many times does Dorian have to explain to this fool how to do it!!??

              When 6 time Mr. O tells you to start squeezing, then slower on the negative, YOU do it. You don't start swinging like your on a swing set. They didn't even appriate his advice, Dorian was showing them out to do it and they didn't even listen. He told them not to use straps and they didn't listen.

              Oscar is grunting too much, like he's a champion. He's fat!!! Out of shape!! No wonder Dorian didn't like him or Kai.

              Kai couldn't even do the deadlift like Dorian told him. Kai kept touching the ground, bouncing the weight, he didn't even squeeze like Dorian said.

              These people so stupid, they can't even take simple directions!!! And OSCAR is trainning Kai?!?!?! What a joke.!!

              Kai also eat pounds of tilapia a day, his dumbass thinks that its good!??!?! Tilapia has more Omega 6 fatty acids then bacon and donuts. Tilapia has 11 times Omega 6 than Omege 3. Omega 6 clogs up arteries, is basically the oposite of Omega 3.

              They are also talking about the law of attraction like there some spiritual saviors. "Mind muscle connection, blah blah blah, visualization, blah blah, Kai visualizes winning the Mr. O. in our mind he already won the Mr.O, blah blah blah, if you see it in your mind the it will manifest, blah blah" nothing but crap.

              His ass got 4th not 3rd, not 2nd, and definitely not 1rst. How did that bullsH*t work for you guys (oscar and kai) ?!?!?! hahaha

              Jay Cutler didn't do visualization, he beat you. Branch Warren didn't do visualization, he beat you. Dexter Jackson didn't do visualization, he beat you. I'm not saying 4th is bad, I'm saying that they claimed that law of attraction/visualization works, so obviously that law of attraction/visualization BS that they've been brainwashed to believe doesn't work.

              I'll make a prediction, Oscar will get a heart attack before Kai wins Mr. O. And Kai is going to get 3rd or 4th in the arnold. Wait and see.
              AMEN, thanks for saving me the time to write all this. Kai doesn't keep it simple. Just so much filler when Kai talks and not much substance.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by dhuang90 View Post
                dorian is the man. maybe kai was having a bad day or something. he didnt seem too responsive. oscar was trying too hard to impress dorian, but he was soaking it in.

                i also think kai just isnt used to this type of training. for the most part he likes to explode and have a little bit of swinging instead of focusing on the negative. thats just how some people are i guess. for example, i cant imagine branch doing dorians style of training
                shit...branch swings it almost as bad as anyone

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                • #83
                  dorian must feel like what a waste of time
                  oscar is overly dramatic and kai is just trying to take it easy lie it's some kind of vacation goes to show some muscle is just for show and than you have guys like dorian, ronnie and branch that have working muscle which will always seperate the men from the boys and the best from the so so's

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                  • #84
                    Kai would probably be better off without the "Mind Freak" Oscar. He seems to have Kai in some hypnotic trance. Kai looked so great last year because half his prep was with Glass. I hope Evan doesn't go whacky like Kai.

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                    • #85
                      Maybe it's just me, but Oscar doesn't seem too "bright" to me. I'd drop him and hire Dorian in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd hire George Farah over him too with his recent success. I'm beginning to question what type of "mentor relationship" he really has with Kai??

                      Good video though!

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                      • #86
                        I recall a story that Dorian once told about him and Mentzer. He was training for the 92 Olympia, or something along those lines. I believe he was only a week or so away, so he was dieting and feeling like shit. He said that Mike took him through a HIT session. Dorian at the time was doing 2 or 3 working sets instead of his one. Even though Dorian based his career off Mentzer's system, he particularly didn't like training with Mentzer. They went through the workout together and Dorian said he didn't have much to say to Mike until the end. The only thing he said when Mike asked what he thought, "I got an ok pump." Then he left. The next morning Dorian called Mike in disbelief and told Mike his damn arms gained a half inch over night and that was the first time he'd been sore in years.

                        So even though Dorian wasn't thrilled by being trained by Mike at the time, he loved it later and went back home and completely changed up his training, along with using only one set. Who know's maybe Kai will call DY after the Arnold, we know Oscar will, lol.

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                        • #87
                          Well, Oscar asked a ton of really stupid questions and just seemed clueless

                          definitely questioning his credibility know

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                          • #88
                            I don't know, this video seemed like it did more harm than good for those looking for inspiration. I'd have to say though, if Kai felt depleted which I'm sure he did, then why accept the invite from Dorian to train him for these segments? As for Oscar, in his defense, I'm a PT and there is not one PT out there that knows everything, so I feel he's just learning and soaking it all in.
                            Sometimes, things are better left un-said.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by otus View Post
                              These guys are f*ing morons!!! How hard is it to follow simple direction!??!

                              It's not like Dorian is asking them to find the derivative of the secant line of f(x).

                              Oscar is a JOOOOOOOKKEEEE!!!! His ass is out of breath on the stairmaster going slow as hell. C'mon dude, kids have more stamina than Oscar.

                              Oscar thinks he was in Blood and Guts! He was so nice, then when he does the first lat exercise he's moaning, screaming, likes hes doing some heavy weights.

                              They both had to use straps for 225 deadlifts. Thats pathetic. Dorian put oscars ass in place, telling him that he "needs to start putting some f*ing weight" on the deadlift. Oscar did 10 reps for 225 and was way to dramatic.

                              Kai is a dumbass. He thinks he some sort of guru, talking like he's smart. He tries to use big words but he just can't pull it off. He's always trying to make his speeches legendary like if his words are going to be compared to Gandhi. He looked like a boy, taking advice from Dorian...like he never knew how to workout or something. He couldn't even do the first exercise the right way...WHAT A DUMBASS!! How many times does Dorian have to explain to this fool how to do it!!??

                              When 6 time Mr. O tells you to start squeezing, then slower on the negative, YOU do it. You don't start swinging like your on a swing set. They didn't even appriate his advice, Dorian was showing them out to do it and they didn't even listen. He told them not to use straps and they didn't listen.

                              Oscar is grunting too much, like he's a champion. He's fat!!! Out of shape!! No wonder Dorian didn't like him or Kai.

                              Kai couldn't even do the deadlift like Dorian told him. Kai kept touching the ground, bouncing the weight, he didn't even squeeze like Dorian said.

                              These people so stupid, they can't even take simple directions!!! And OSCAR is trainning Kai?!?!?! What a joke.!!

                              Kai also eat pounds of tilapia a day, his dumbass thinks that its good!??!?! Tilapia has more Omega 6 fatty acids then bacon and donuts. Tilapia has 11 times Omega 6 than Omege 3. Omega 6 clogs up arteries, is basically the oposite of Omega 3.

                              They are also talking about the law of attraction like there some spiritual saviors. "Mind muscle connection, blah blah blah, visualization, blah blah, Kai visualizes winning the Mr. O. in our mind he already won the Mr.O, blah blah blah, if you see it in your mind the it will manifest, blah blah" nothing but crap.

                              His ass got 4th not 3rd, not 2nd, and definitely not 1rst. How did that bullsH*t work for you guys (oscar and kai) ?!?!?! hahaha

                              Jay Cutler didn't do visualization, he beat you. Branch Warren didn't do visualization, he beat you. Dexter Jackson didn't do visualization, he beat you. I'm not saying 4th is bad, I'm saying that they claimed that law of attraction/visualization works, so obviously that law of attraction/visualization BS that they've been brainwashed to believe doesn't work.

                              I'll make a prediction, Oscar will get a heart attack before Kai wins Mr. O. And Kai is going to get 3rd or 4th in the arnold. Wait and see.
                              sadly... i absolutely agree..

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by MattO8929 View Post
                                Kai would probably be better off without the "Mind Freak" Oscar. He seems to have Kai in some hypnotic trance. Kai looked so great last year because half his prep was with Glass. I hope Evan doesn't go whacky like Kai.
                                well you obviously don't know too much about bodybuilding, because charles glass is pretty much primarily a trainer, not a contest prep guru. pros go to him for training and then use someone else for their diet. so just because he may have been training with charles glass means nothing on the way he looked because glass was not doing his diet.

                                oscar thinks he is both a trainer as well as a contest prep guru.

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