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  • Originally posted by Mike Arnold View Post
    Hhahahahahahahahah!

    That was the biggest fucking laugh I've had all night. Hahahaha!

    Dorian understands muscle anatomy and kinesiology 10X better (no, make that 100X better) than Kai does or probably ever will. Also, Doriana had a FAR better back than Kai does and NO ONE wouldl dispute that.


    Also, one's level of development doesn't necessarily correlate with one's level of knowledge, as I can name MANY pro BB'rs who know less than ametures (why do you think these guys get trainers?), yet their genetics and hard work take them far (you don't have to be smart to work hard).

    The simple fact is that Dorian knows a shit load more than Kai, period!
    Name one guy who will compete at the arnold classic with a better back than kai?

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    • @ boston dude> look bro if you havent watched the other vids he looks really good, second he is around 280lbs a lot heavier than he was at the O (i was there). i think he will look exactly like last years arnold maybe a tad bigger, but will it be enough to hold off branch? man i wish i was going.

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      • Originally posted by Diesel View Post
        Dude, are u a part of TEAM MD or are u A --- P-A-R-T of team MD?? Ive bean reading all of ur post and openly public negativity towards an athlete, a star player, a fellow member who is a part of the same magazine company you work for is astounding!! Yo , did KAI steal ur bitch or something from u or didnt sign a autograph for you or something?? It really boggles my mind how the Mods of this site can allow one of their own fellow staff trash their one of their own athletes in the manner this hater is going about.

        As a bodybuilder and personal life and past lifestyle aside, I like Kai Greene and what he represents in Bodybuilding. He always seems like a humble guy with a positive outlook on life and message to influence upon others, not just about bodybuilding but in life in general. I think as a bodybuilder, Kai brings a breath of fresh air to this sport that can be dull and boring to the non bodybuilding enthusiast and his similar like rocky life story is motivating to anyone trying to pursue their dreams/ goals/ passion that if you DARE to dream that you can make your dreams a reality. Kai, do the damn thing and shut these motherfuckers up on Saturday!!

        wow with 25 posts on here im suprised you think you can even address an MD member. second if you read his posts he isnt bad mouthing anyone. Mike was stating the obvious! just bc he is on team md doesnt mean he has to agree with or lie about what was clear in the video of kai training with dorian. i mean we all saw it very clearly. second dont talk trash to an md guy or call him out then in ur second part of the post talk about your bb expireince or how much you love kai, bc honeslty no one cares about what you think or your past expireinces! maybe you should go back to the "muscle and fitness or Flex" boards where the ignorant/unintelligant people maybe give a shit about what you have to say!

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        • Originally posted by hulk7280 View Post
          Name one guy who will compete at the arnold classic with a better back than kai?
          no one said he didnt have one of the best backs! he just said anyone with great genetics (ie kai) in the back department will most certainly get great development no matter what he does. everyone that lifts (seriously) knows that people are born with certain muscles that just respond to anything they do. i mean there are guys who probably do one hard set for arms and they are just naturally going to grow like weeds. kai's back is one of his better muscle groups. no one is negating the fact that his back is amazing, he was just saying that Dorian could probably help with some detail in it. it never hurt to look at or try other training methods. its all trial and error. with all that cleared up, do i think kai needs help in the back department... HELL NO! but again thats just my 2cents.

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          • Originally posted by BostonBadBoy View Post
            uhh no, i'm not mad at all, i'm kind of getting frustrated hearing about all this "visualization, reading positive affirmations, self belief, blah blah blah" dude, just train your ass off, eat what you gotta eat, get it done and enjoy it, how about this, kai comes from a bad area in brooklyn right? would he rather be in some ghetto selling crack? dude looks like someone just ran over his dog, i would give my left nut sack to be where he is with his life.
            u have two nut sacks?

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            • Waste of a damn thread.

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              • Originally posted by 1bigrod View Post
                I have seen pics over the last week and TRUST ME KAI LOOKS BIGGER AND BETTER THAN HE HAS EVER BEEN BEFORE A TOTAL FREAK! I want to come back and hear what all you have say come sat when the new Kai is unleashed and dominates the ASC. I love Branch and I am a huge fan of his and would also love to see him win or give Kai a run for his money. However, at 275-280 at 5'8 and fing shredded he will be tough to beat! Anyone care to make a friendly bet? I'll put up a can of Epoblast or Eponox that he wins! Come on all you experts hiding behind your keyboard....I'll be at the Xero Limits booth all weekend to collect my winnings!!!

                My money is also on Kai for the win. If he is really as conditioned as you say he is at that weight (and Kai always does his best to get in condition) then I don't really see how anyone there could beat him; not Dexter or Branch or Phil.

                I love Branch and would also love to see him win, but unless Kai comes in off, I don't see him losing with such overwhelming size, seperation and condition.

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                • Originally posted by hulk7280 View Post
                  Name one guy who will compete at the arnold classic with a better back than kai?


                  Kai will be #1 in the back department at the Arnold, but that is kind of besides the point.

                  My post was only in reference to the comment that said Kai doesn't need any instruction or "pointers" in his training because his back is so good.

                  You can have the best back in the world and still not know everything about back training. Also, Kai has some of the best lats in the wolrd, but his back is far from the best in many other ways and Kai says so himself.

                  His back would be 2X better if he improved his traps and other upper back muscles and kai knows this. A lot of Kai's devlopment is simply genetic and due to hard training, not because he knows the most. I have no doubt that Kai could dramatically improve his back in the upper area even further from where it currently stands.

                  The point is, Dorian does having something to offer Kai, as he does most people. Knowledge and development are not always connected; you should know that bro.
                  Last edited by Mike Arnold; March 4th, 2010, 03:00 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by jab4240 View Post
                    wow with 25 posts on here im suprised you think you can even address an MD member. second if you read his posts he isnt bad mouthing anyone. Mike was stating the obvious! just bc he is on team md doesnt mean he has to agree with or lie about what was clear in the video of kai training with dorian. i mean we all saw it very clearly. second dont talk trash to an md guy or call him out then in ur second part of the post talk about your bb expireince or how much you love kai, bc honeslty no one cares about what you think or your past expireinces! maybe you should go back to the "muscle and fitness or Flex" boards where the ignorant/unintelligant people maybe give a shit about what you have to say!

                    Thanks for the support brother.

                    I understand some of my posts may have come across as less than positive, but like a lot of people, I too can get frustrated with some of the things I view.

                    But his post that says I was extremely negative and was "trashing" Kai was overboard and I don't agree at all. Irrelevant character bashing or derogatory comments is one thing, but speaking one's mind in regards to facts or what is witnessed is another.

                    Thanks again, as I do feel the need to support our athletes, but also feel the need to occasionally speak my mind without being verbally castrated.

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                    • wtf is up with all the essays in this thread

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                      • Originally posted by Mike Arnold View Post
                        Kai will be #1 in the back department at the Arnold, but that is kind of besides the point.

                        My post was only in reference to the comment that said Kai doesn't need any instruction or "pointers" in his training because his back is so good.

                        You can have the best back in the world and still not know everything about back training. Also, Kai has some of the best lats in the wolrd, but his back is far from the best in many other ways and Kai says so himself.

                        His back would be 2X better if he improved his traps and other upper back muscles and kai knows this. A lot of Kai's devlopment is simply genetic and due to hard training, not because he knows the most. I have no doubt that Kai could dramatically improve his back in the upper area even further from where it currently stands.

                        The point is, Dorian does having something to offer Kai, as he does most people. Knowledge and development are not always connected; you should know that bro.
                        Well said!

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                        • [quote=Mike Arnold;1926178]
                          Originally posted by MisterGX View Post
                          Understand that his being trained by Dorian is an MD project which he is contracted to do. If it wasn't for that, he wouldn't be going to Dorian for any pointers (like he needs any).[/quote]


                          True, but don't you think he could've played along so the video at least made sense?

                          Actually, for as much as Kai might know about training, Dorian is VERY knowledgable when it comes to back training and many people could learn something from him. Everyone has stuff to learn; all of us bro.

                          Kai has weak areas in his back, like his upper back and traps, which really are quite far behind lats. Kai has awsome lats, but not great traps, rhomboid, terres major or minor, or erectors. If Kai ever got those arreas up to par with his lats, his back would be even better.

                          Also, Kai needs more pectoral, delt and tricep development, so to say Kai couldn't use any pointers from one of the very most knowledgebal BB'rs in the world is ridiculous. I have been following Dorian for before he was a pro and this guy knows his shit. When it comes to anatomy, muscle function and how to properly work each muscle, he is extremely knowledgable.
                          He could/would have played along if this was shot 6 weeks earlier. As far as pointers for his back work, I think Kai got more out of the one/two weeks of working with Glass. Kai has improved in pec & delt areas (more is needed & might show this weekend). And Dorian is the last person to ask for pointers when it comes to arms period. I'm not saying Dorian doesn't know his shit, because he does. Some of his choices for back, I incorporate in my own workout (reverse grip rows). But to say his way is the only/best way is incorrect. Is Dorain's way of deadlifting more correct than say Ronnie's? Everyone is right in their own way. But let's do these pro pairing workouts when everyone is fully carbed...
                          Last edited by MisterGX; March 4th, 2010, 04:00 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by BostonBadBoy View Post
                            i can honestly say that yes, i could do better than those if i was that low. those are the WORST barbell rows i've ever seen a pro do. the guys sounds like he hates his job and is miserable. yet he CHOOSES to do it. it seems like kai hates bodybuilding, and to him it's a means to an end.
                            Brah, u mad?

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                            • Originally posted by piotrek View Post
                              Oh i am sorry,did i hurt your fillings? Are you Ok princess? The point is that you didn't make any point!You MOMO! LOL
                              Lol @ momo...someone needs to get off Gregg V's dick.
                              I got my dick in their mouth...so I guess it's fuck what they say!

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                              • Heavy Weight princess get off MY dick you MOMO hahaha lol.

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