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  • #31
    I think Kai is just depleted and feeling the diet, common he is 2 weeks out and suffering.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by otus View Post
      These guys are f*ing morons!!! How hard is it to follow simple direction!??!

      It's not like Dorian is asking them to find the derivative of the secant line of f(x).

      Oscar is a JOOOOOOOKKEEEE!!!! His ass is out of breath on the stairmaster going slow as hell. C'mon dude, kids have more stamina than Oscar.

      Oscar thinks he was in Blood and Guts! He was so nice, then when he does the first lat exercise he's moaning, screaming, likes hes doing some heavy weights.

      They both had to use straps for 225 deadlifts. Thats pathetic. Dorian put oscars ass in place, telling him that he "needs to start putting some f*ing weight" on the deadlift. Oscar did 10 reps for 225 and was way to dramatic.

      Kai is a dumbass. He thinks he some sort of guru, talking like he's smart. He tries to use big words but he just can't pull it off. He's always trying to make his speeches legendary like if his words are going to be compared to Gandhi. He looked like a boy, taking advice from Dorian...like he never knew how to workout or something. He couldn't even do the first exercise the right way...WHAT A DUMBASS!! How many times does Dorian have to explain to this fool how to do it!!??

      When 6 time Mr. O tells you to start squeezing, then slower on the negative, YOU do it. You don't start swinging like your on a swing set. They didn't even appriate his advice, Dorian was showing them out to do it and they didn't even listen. He told them not to use straps and they didn't listen.

      Oscar is grunting too much, like he's a champion. He's fat!!! Out of shape!! No wonder Dorian didn't like him or Kai.

      Kai couldn't even do the deadlift like Dorian told him. Kai kept touching the ground, bouncing the weight, he didn't even squeeze like Dorian said.

      These people so stupid, they can't even take simple directions!!! And OSCAR is trainning Kai?!?!?! What a joke.!!

      Kai also eat pounds of tilapia a day, his dumbass thinks that its good!??!?! Tilapia has more Omega 6 fatty acids then bacon and donuts. Tilapia has 11 times Omega 6 than Omege 3. Omega 6 clogs up arteries, is basically the oposite of Omega 3.

      They are also talking about the law of attraction like there some spiritual saviors. "Mind muscle connection, blah blah blah, visualization, blah blah, Kai visualizes winning the Mr. O. in our mind he already won the Mr.O, blah blah blah, if you see it in your mind the it will manifest, blah blah" nothing but crap.

      His ass got 4th not 3rd, not 2nd, and definitely not 1rst. How did that bullsH*t work for you guys (oscar and kai) ?!?!?! hahaha

      Jay Cutler didn't do visualization, he beat you. Branch Warren didn't do visualization, he beat you. Dexter Jackson didn't do visualization, he beat you. I'm not saying 4th is bad, I'm saying that they claimed that law of attraction/visualization works, so obviously that law of attraction/visualization BS that they've been brainwashed to believe doesn't work.

      I'll make a prediction, Oscar will get a heart attack before Kai wins Mr. O. And Kai is going to get 3rd or 4th in the arnold. Wait and see.

      Dude why the attack on kai?? I promise you if it was branch, heath, dexter, or even jay cutler himself...dorian would pick their form apart too!! Dorians form is fucking text book! not fair to pick on kai and oscar...and on the bent over row..kai wasnt using bad form at all, but the style that he was doing them was old school lee haney style bent over rows...but it wasnt targeting the lats like dorian said....Kai is one of the hardest working bodybuilders in the sport along side branch

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      • #33
        Originally posted by otus View Post
        These guys are f*ing morons!!! How hard is it to follow simple direction!??!

        It's not like Dorian is asking them to find the derivative of the secant line of f(x).

        Oscar is a JOOOOOOOKKEEEE!!!! His ass is out of breath on the stairmaster going slow as hell. C'mon dude, kids have more stamina than Oscar.

        Oscar thinks he was in Blood and Guts! He was so nice, then when he does the first lat exercise he's moaning, screaming, likes hes doing some heavy weights.

        They both had to use straps for 225 deadlifts. Thats pathetic. Dorian put oscars ass in place, telling him that he "needs to start putting some f*ing weight" on the deadlift. Oscar did 10 reps for 225 and was way to dramatic.

        Kai is a dumbass. He thinks he some sort of guru, talking like he's smart. He tries to use big words but he just can't pull it off. He's always trying to make his speeches legendary like if his words are going to be compared to Gandhi. He looked like a boy, taking advice from Dorian...like he never knew how to workout or something. He couldn't even do the first exercise the right way...WHAT A DUMBASS!! How many times does Dorian have to explain to this fool how to do it!!??

        When 6 time Mr. O tells you to start squeezing, then slower on the negative, YOU do it. You don't start swinging like your on a swing set. They didn't even appriate his advice, Dorian was showing them out to do it and they didn't even listen. He told them not to use straps and they didn't listen.

        Oscar is grunting too much, like he's a champion. He's fat!!! Out of shape!! No wonder Dorian didn't like him or Kai.

        Kai couldn't even do the deadlift like Dorian told him. Kai kept touching the ground, bouncing the weight, he didn't even squeeze like Dorian said.

        These people so stupid, they can't even take simple directions!!! And OSCAR is trainning Kai?!?!?! What a joke.!!

        Kai also eat pounds of tilapia a day, his dumbass thinks that its good!??!?! Tilapia has more Omega 6 fatty acids then bacon and donuts. Tilapia has 11 times Omega 6 than Omege 3. Omega 6 clogs up arteries, is basically the oposite of Omega 3.

        They are also talking about the law of attraction like there some spiritual saviors. "Mind muscle connection, blah blah blah, visualization, blah blah, Kai visualizes winning the Mr. O. in our mind he already won the Mr.O, blah blah blah, if you see it in your mind the it will manifest, blah blah" nothing but crap.

        His ass got 4th not 3rd, not 2nd, and definitely not 1rst. How did that bullsH*t work for you guys (oscar and kai) ?!?!?! hahaha

        Jay Cutler didn't do visualization, he beat you. Branch Warren didn't do visualization, he beat you. Dexter Jackson didn't do visualization, he beat you. I'm not saying 4th is bad, I'm saying that they claimed that law of attraction/visualization works, so obviously that law of attraction/visualization BS that they've been brainwashed to believe doesn't work.

        I'll make a prediction, Oscar will get a heart attack before Kai wins Mr. O. And Kai is going to get 3rd or 4th in the arnold. Wait and see.
        u mad?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by otus View Post
          These guys are f*ing morons!!! How hard is it to follow simple direction!??!

          It's not like Dorian is asking them to find the derivative of the secant line of f(x).

          Oscar is a JOOOOOOOKKEEEE!!!! His ass is out of breath on the stairmaster going slow as hell. C'mon dude, kids have more stamina than Oscar.

          Oscar thinks he was in Blood and Guts! He was so nice, then when he does the first lat exercise he's moaning, screaming, likes hes doing some heavy weights.

          They both had to use straps for 225 deadlifts. Thats pathetic. Dorian put oscars ass in place, telling him that he "needs to start putting some f*ing weight" on the deadlift. Oscar did 10 reps for 225 and was way to dramatic.

          Kai is a dumbass. He thinks he some sort of guru, talking like he's smart. He tries to use big words but he just can't pull it off. He's always trying to make his speeches legendary like if his words are going to be compared to Gandhi. He looked like a boy, taking advice from Dorian...like he never knew how to workout or something. He couldn't even do the first exercise the right way...WHAT A DUMBASS!! How many times does Dorian have to explain to this fool how to do it!!??

          When 6 time Mr. O tells you to start squeezing, then slower on the negative, YOU do it. You don't start swinging like your on a swing set. They didn't even appriate his advice, Dorian was showing them out to do it and they didn't even listen. He told them not to use straps and they didn't listen.

          Oscar is grunting too much, like he's a champion. He's fat!!! Out of shape!! No wonder Dorian didn't like him or Kai.

          Kai couldn't even do the deadlift like Dorian told him. Kai kept touching the ground, bouncing the weight, he didn't even squeeze like Dorian said.

          These people so stupid, they can't even take simple directions!!! And OSCAR is trainning Kai?!?!?! What a joke.!!

          Kai also eat pounds of tilapia a day, his dumbass thinks that its good!??!?! Tilapia has more Omega 6 fatty acids then bacon and donuts. Tilapia has 11 times Omega 6 than Omege 3. Omega 6 clogs up arteries, is basically the oposite of Omega 3.

          They are also talking about the law of attraction like there some spiritual saviors. "Mind muscle connection, blah blah blah, visualization, blah blah, Kai visualizes winning the Mr. O. in our mind he already won the Mr.O, blah blah blah, if you see it in your mind the it will manifest, blah blah" nothing but crap.

          His ass got 4th not 3rd, not 2nd, and definitely not 1rst. How did that bullsH*t work for you guys (oscar and kai) ?!?!?! hahaha

          Jay Cutler didn't do visualization, he beat you. Branch Warren didn't do visualization, he beat you. Dexter Jackson didn't do visualization, he beat you. I'm not saying 4th is bad, I'm saying that they claimed that law of attraction/visualization works, so obviously that law of attraction/visualization BS that they've been brainwashed to believe doesn't work.

          I'll make a prediction, Oscar will get a heart attack before Kai wins Mr. O. And Kai is going to get 3rd or 4th in the arnold. Wait and see.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by buster12 View Post
            in before otus gets banned...

            LMFAO!!!
            Live 4 the Pump!!!

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            • #36
              Observations

              It appeared Kai was more interested in moving the weight and getting finished than actually "feeling" the exercise as Yates directs. It is definitely adifferent training style for some. I see plenty of huge guys who never use the slower more deliberate style, just gifted I guess. I also see Priest and Yates who are enormous using the more deliberate style. Some just grow differently with different stimulation.
              BUT, When a 6 time Mr. O is offering advice and directing your workout, you really should listen.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SuperMasko View Post
                Ronnie won 8 times....should I use his form for back movements then?
                If he is training you on that day and advises you to do so, uhhhh yeah.

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                • #38
                  cool vid, i gotta try those deads lol
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BigEddie View Post
                    It appeared Kai was more interested in moving the weight and getting finished than actually "feeling" the exercise as Yates directs. It is definitely adifferent training style for some. I see plenty of huge guys who never use the slower more deliberate style, just gifted I guess. I also see Priest and Yates who are enormous using the more deliberate style. Some just grow differently with different stimulation.
                    BUT, When a 6 time Mr. O is offering advice and directing your workout, you really should listen.
                    i agree with you but whatever works for 6 times mr. olympia isnt necessarly going to work for everybody
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dhuang90 View Post
                      dorian is the man. maybe kai was having a bad day or something. he didnt seem too responsive. oscar was trying too hard to impress dorian, but he was soaking it in.

                      i also think kai just isnt used to this type of training. for the most part he likes to explode and have a little bit of swinging instead of focusing on the negative. thats just how some people are i guess. for example, i cant imagine branch doing dorians style of training
                      I agree, most Bodybuilders like kai, Branch and Trey Brewer lift the weights very explosively, even "ballistically", it must be quite a change up to go slow and pause and then hold the negative. Also many bodybuilders have never really seen their own form on exercises, they tend to "think" that they are using stricter form than they really are. How many have really watched a video of themselves doing an exercise.

                      I doubt that even Dorian uses as good of for as he thinks he does, or as he instructs others?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SuperMasko View Post
                        um have you seen Ronnies form on his heavy T Bar rows?
                        I wasn't being snide. I don't know Coleman, but I doubt he would suggest you use max weight with his form on that exercise. My point was that if you have a trainer with that kind of training knowledge...listen. I also did state people grow differently with different exercise form and type.

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                        • #42
                          amazing to see that Kai an 2 time arnold classic winner ( my visualization lol ) can still improve on his training
                          would love to see the difference if he trained with Dorian for 3 months
                          i would buy that dvd , come on MD make it happen !!!!!

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                          • #43
                            because these guys are gifted... dont u guys understand when u are genetically gifted u just need some kind of resistance and you will grow..if these guys learn how to actually train properly they will grow much more... instead of upping the dosages all the time and and making gains harder, Ronnie Coleman its another story.

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                            • #44
                              DOrian is a very smart guy. But Kai isnt listening to him, hes having the honor to train with this great and he isnt listening to the fuckin guy

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                              • #45
                                i dont understand y some of u guys say that kai isnt listening hes always that way in all his videos , look at the ones with charles glass hes the same way hes always all tired and shit when hes dietin but i dwouldnt ay that hes not listening
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