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YEAR OF THE UPSET?..YES?..NO?...I SAY VIC MARTINEZ SHOCKS THE WORLD, HE IS A WINNER EITHER WAY.

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  • #91
    I disagree with the notion that Jay can just bring last years condition and win. In no way will that be enough to beat an improved Kai or Phil, just not going to happen. And Victor does have better genetics than Flex and Phil, I believe that's obvious.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by GREGG VALENTINO View Post
      UMMM I LOVE FLEX BUT HOW CAN YOU SAY HE IS IN ANOTHER LEAGUE WHEN HE NEVER WON THE OLYMPIA AND PLACED SECOND JUST LIKE VICTOR WHO WAS ACTUALLY ROBBED IN 2007, HE HAD JAY BEAT!!!!!.... FLEX WAS NEVER AS CLOSE AS VICTOR WAS TO WINNING THE O. MAYBE THE FIRST YEAR RONNIE WON IT IN NYC , IT WAS KINDA CLOSE BUT RONNIE DESERVED IT...JAY WAS GIVEN A GIFT, I THINK BECAUSE BACK THEN JAY WAS A WEIDER ATHLETE AND VICTOR WAS MD!!!!!!
      Last year Jay won being MD when Phil was Weider, robbed ans second.

      Anyway, GL to Vic, a great champion with nothing to prove.
      Last edited by Longinus; September 6th, 2011, 12:56 PM.

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      • #93
        JAY WON BECAUSE HE IS ALREADY MR.OLYMPIA SO THE MD THING WAS NOT A FACTOR.....BUT.....IF JAY WASNT ALREADY MR.O WOULD HE HAVENT GOTTEN THE NOD IF IT WAS CLOSE????...PERSONALLY I THINK JAY IS BETTER THAN HEATH BUT IN 2007 YOU TELL ME HOW / WHY VICTOR LOST???..NO JUDGE CAN EXPLAIN IT, EVEN STEVE WEINBERGER SAID VICTOR WAS ROBBED!!!.....NO WAY SHOULD JAY HAVE BEATEN VICTOR THAT YEAR AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU VICTOR STILL WASN'T AT HIS BEST YET HE HAD JAY BEAT HANDS DOWN!!!!
        “Success causes envy , jealousy & hatred from the un-successful !!!! ”..Gregg Valentino

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        • #94
          Originally posted by GREGG VALENTINO View Post
          JAY WON BECAUSE HE IS ALREADY MR.OLYMPIA SO THE MD THING WAS NOT A FACTOR.....BUT.....IF JAY WASNT ALREADY MR.O WOULD HE HAVENT GOTTEN THE NOD IF IT WAS CLOSE????...PERSONALLY I THINK JAY IS BETTER THAN HEATH BUT IN 2007 YOU TELL ME HOW / WHY VICTOR LOST???..NO JUDGE CAN EXPLAIN IT, EVEN STEVE WEINBERGER SAID VICTOR WAS ROBBED!!!.....NO WAY SHOULD JAY HAVE BEATEN VICTOR THAT YEAR AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU VICTOR STILL WASN'T AT HIS BEST YET HE HAD JAY BEAT HANDS DOWN!!!!
          exactly we have yet to see victor at his all time best, and that's why he has a chance to not only place top 3 but win!

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          • #95
            2007 WAS VICTOR AT 95% OR LESS, IMAGINE HIM AT 100%!!!...NO ONE COULD BEAT HIM!!!...NO ONE!!!!
            “Success causes envy , jealousy & hatred from the un-successful !!!! ”..Gregg Valentino

            MY NEW'TRAINING BOOK'
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            • #96
              Originally posted by GREGG VALENTINO View Post
              2007 WAS VICTOR AT 95% OR LESS, IMAGINE HIM AT 100%!!!...NO ONE COULD BEAT HIM!!!...NO ONE!!!!
              ofc noone can, hes the most geneticly gifted person since arnold?...
              But he cant get his condition nailed, tho, wish we could see him at a 100% this year

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              • #97
                I still have huge faith in Victor, I definitely think that the top 3 is locked down by Heath, Kai and Jay, 4th could be a proper scrap between Wolf and Vic if he nails it...Fingers crossed for one of my all time fave pros...
                MD Global Muscle Radio ep.40-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MIKWx8sAcw&t=5319s

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by GREGG VALENTINO View Post
                  GOING BACK TO WHAT WORKED BEFORE IS WHY VICTOR IS BACK WITH MUNOZ......YOU ARE ALL FORGETTING ONE THING, PHIL, JAY, KAI AND ALL THE OTHERS HAVE NOT HAD TO DEAL WITH 1/10th OF THE HEART ACHE. MENTAL DRAMA VICTOR MARTNEZ HAS HAD TO OVERCOME...ITS HARD ENOUGH TO STAY FOCUSED WHEN YOUR DIETING, IMAGINE HAVING TO DEAL WITH MURDER & FAMILY DRAMA....JAY CUTLER HAS EVERYTHING PLANNED OUT AND A A VERY EASY CUSHY LIFE..HIS BIGGEST HURDLE IS IF HE IS TIRED OR THE DIET IS KICKING HIS ASS...HE SLEEPS LIKE 12 yo 14 HOURS A DAY!!!....YO YOU GIVE VICTOR MARTINEZ A CUSHY LIFE LIKE THAT SLEEPING AND TRAINING ALL DAY AND YOU WATCH WHAT HAPPENS....VICTOR STILL IS TAKING CARE OF HIS FAMILY RUNNING AROUND ALL DAY AS WELL AS PUTTING HIS LIFE BACK TOGETHER.....JAY CUTLER DOES EVEN BOIL AN EGG SOMEONE BOILS IT FOR HIM.......

                  AND ALL PHIL HEATH HAS IS ROUND MUSCLE BELLIES, HIS STRUCTURE DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO VICTOR!!!!...YOU ARESMOKING HANY RAMBOD'S CRACK PIPE IF YOU THINK HEATH HAS BETTER STRUCTRE THAN VICTOR!!!
                  Victor has super high calves, throws off his legs. He is as wide as a barn but soft and doesn't get that rock hard, grainy look.

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                  • #99
                    I think a key factor in why he won't win is because Heath, Cutler, Kai and a few others simply have much more momentum heading into the O'.
                    "To alcohol! The cause of... and solution to... all of life's problems"

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                    • VALENTINO: BRO, LISTEN, I WAS WITH VICTOR AT THE FOUNTAINBLEAU HOTEL HERE ON SOUTH BEACH WHERE I WORKED AS A BOUNCER BACK THEN. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, HE WAS FUCKING HIGH AS A KITE!! HE CAME 3 DIFFERENT NIGHTS TO THE CLUB AND WAS BEYOND HIGH.
                      HE HAS A BAD BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD ADDICTION TO WEED AND HE WILL NEVER BE MR. O BECAUSE OF IT. HE SAID IT HIMSELF THAT CHRIS ACETO USED TO GIVE HIM ALOT OF SHIT FOR IT WHEN HE WON HIS FIRST SHOW. THE MAN WILL NOT STOP SMOKING WEED FOR NOTHING AND HE SAID IT SUPPOSEDLY HELPS HIM OUT WHILE HE TRAINS. I HAD A FULL BLOWN CONVERSATION AT THE LOBBY OF THE HOTEL AND HE WAS STUPIDLY HIGH TO THE POINT THAT HE COULDNT EVEN SPEAK PROPERLY. BOTTOM LINE, NO WAY HE WILL BECOME MR. OLYMPIA BECAUSE HE DOESNT FUCKING TRUELY WANT. IF HE FUCKING WANTED TO BE MR. O, THEN HE WOULD STOP SMOKING THAT SHIT FOR 16 WEEKS AND GO BALLS TO THE WALL IN THE GYM AND FINALLY BRING THAT CONDITION HE NEEDS. IT IS SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET HARD AND PEELED WHEN YOU SMOKE EVERY DAY MAN..... BROTHER, WHY DONT YOU FUCKING SLAP HIM ACROSS THE FACE A FEW TIMES AND ASK HIM IF HE DOES WANT TO BE MR O?????? YOU ARE THE MAN WHO KEEPS IT REAL AND I AM ASKING YOU TO FUCKING ASK HIM FOR ALL THE FANS IF HE REALLY DOES WANT THIS SHIT OR NOT BECAUSE BY SMOKING WEED EVERY DAY IT JUST MEANS HE TRUELY DOES NOT WANT IT ... THE END.

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                      • Originally posted by Noel Fuller View Post
                        Has the body, just needs the condition....ahem
                        REACH OUT TO HIM!

                        On a non-Noel Fuller note, why did Big Vic never work with Chris Aceto in recent years?

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                        • Originally posted by Noel Fuller View Post
                          What did Arnold say in his prep for the Olympia?
                          Easy question, Fuller! I got this one.


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                          • Originally posted by curtjames View Post
                            REACH OUT TO HIM!

                            On a non-Noel Fuller note, why did Big Vic never work with Chris Aceto in recent years?
                            I know a man who asked Chris Aceto this exact question, and Chris said he wouldn't work with Vic again cause he was lazy and didn't want to do shit

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                            • Well if thats true about victor then thats sad
                              even if he wanted to smoke at least set that aside 16 to 20 weeks to accomplish your dream
                              This olympia is the last stand i take with victor, if he fails to make top 3 here
                              im done

                              best of luck to victor i hope ur grinding

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                              • Originally posted by Miamilift View Post
                                VALENTINO: BRO, LISTEN, I WAS WITH VICTOR AT THE FOUNTAINBLEAU HOTEL HERE ON SOUTH BEACH WHERE I WORKED AS A BOUNCER BACK THEN. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, HE WAS FUCKING HIGH AS A KITE!! HE CAME 3 DIFFERENT NIGHTS TO THE CLUB AND WAS BEYOND HIGH.
                                HE HAS A BAD BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD ADDICTION TO WEED AND HE WILL NEVER BE MR. O BECAUSE OF IT. HE SAID IT HIMSELF THAT CHRIS ACETO USED TO GIVE HIM ALOT OF SHIT FOR IT WHEN HE WON HIS FIRST SHOW. THE MAN WILL NOT STOP SMOKING WEED FOR NOTHING AND HE SAID IT SUPPOSEDLY HELPS HIM OUT WHILE HE TRAINS. I HAD A FULL BLOWN CONVERSATION AT THE LOBBY OF THE HOTEL AND HE WAS STUPIDLY HIGH TO THE POINT THAT HE COULDNT EVEN SPEAK PROPERLY. BOTTOM LINE, NO WAY HE WILL BECOME MR. OLYMPIA BECAUSE HE DOESNT FUCKING TRUELY WANT. IF HE FUCKING WANTED TO BE MR. O, THEN HE WOULD STOP SMOKING THAT SHIT FOR 16 WEEKS AND GO BALLS TO THE WALL IN THE GYM AND FINALLY BRING THAT CONDITION HE NEEDS. IT IS SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET HARD AND PEELED WHEN YOU SMOKE EVERY DAY MAN..... BROTHER, WHY DONT YOU FUCKING SLAP HIM ACROSS THE FACE A FEW TIMES AND ASK HIM IF HE DOES WANT TO BE MR O?????? YOU ARE THE MAN WHO KEEPS IT REAL AND I AM ASKING YOU TO FUCKING ASK HIM FOR ALL THE FANS IF HE REALLY DOES WANT THIS SHIT OR NOT BECAUSE BY SMOKING WEED EVERY DAY IT JUST MEANS HE TRUELY DOES NOT WANT IT ... THE END.
                                If what you say here is true...No wonder Jay got the nod (not gift!). Jay leads a far better lifestyle...one that allows him to prepare with laser-like focus. Hey Victor, you might as well smoke Clinton's cigar!!
                                RESPECT & BELIEVE

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