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            So is Phoenix moving here for sure? I would think with the shitty new realignment and playoff set up they would have to do something quick....
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              Don't know about moving. a looong way to go yet...
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                The National Hockey League's position on Phoenix - or Quebec City if you like - is pretty much the same now as it has always been.

                That is, the goal is to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix. There are no immediate plans for relocation or expansion to anywhere, let alone Quebec City and, well... stop me if you've heard any of this before.

                But here's what we also know to be true.

                The NHL cannot possibly wait as long this year as it did last year for the Phoenix situation to resolve itself. Last year, the Coyotes were not locked in for another season in Phoenix until almost mid-May and the sale of the Atlanta Thrashers to Winnipeg didn't take place until the end of May.

                The NHL was able to wait as long last year because True North - the owner of the Jets - had an entire hockey and business and arena infrastructure ready, willing and able to accept a franchise at the last minute.

                In spite of Sunday's arena news conference in Quebec City, neither Quebec nor Seattle are as well positioned as Winnipeg. So unless Phoenix is resolved in short order, the league will at the very least have to begin laying some relocation groundwork in the very near future.

                Now there's nothing to stop the NHL from running parallel or simultaneous tracks - one leading to the Coyotes staying in Phoenix and the other one leading out of the desert - but it should be noted the NHL has yet to start down that second track.

                So the good folks of Quebec City shouldn't get too excited just yet.

                If the Coyotes are on the move, there's no guarantee it's to La Belle Province.

                It's certainly a viable landing spot, but so too is Seattle. And the Pacific Northwest may be a more desirable location from the NHL's perspective.

                There's no NHL expansion on the immediate horizon, but if the league and Players' Association achieve labour peace and a new collective bargaining agreement next fall and if there are no further existing franchise fires to put out, growing the NHL to 32 teams would seem to make sense.

                But even then, Quebec City might still be in tough - competing with a second NHL franchise in Southern Ontario, Seattle or who knows where.

                So while it's all very exciting for Quebec City to get a new arena, that's not to be confused with necessarily being a tangible step closer to getting an NHL franchise.
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                  Get your first look inside the nearly complete Quebec City arena

                  There may not be an NHL tenant yet, but the Quebec City arena, known as the Videotron Centre, is growing ever-closer to completion. And by the looks of things, the building is going to be one of the nicest in the league, should an NHL team ever return to Quebec’s capital.
                  In a photo released by Le Journal De Quebec, and taken by photographer Stevens Leblanc, you can get a full glimpse inside the arena and take a look at the locations of the press boxes, the private suites and the location of where the ice surface will be. Really, there’s something breathtaking about the way the rink looks at this stage:

                  “It’s impressive,” former Quebec Nordiques defenseman Dave Pichette told Kevin Dube. “I think the city and the region will be lucky to have this new building. The Colisée Pepsi did the job, but they are two different worlds. We want to have a hockey club, but we can also accommodate other large events.”

                  And with this new rink, that’s the plan. While there’s no indication that a team relocating to Quebec City is imminent, nor has there been much concrete talk of expansion to the city, it seems unlikely that the arena will go without a professional tenant for long.

                  It’s entirely possible Quebec City goes a similar route to Winnipeg, taking on an AHL franchise for several years, proving they’re an NHL ready city before actually attempting to bring a team to the former home of the Nordiques. For seven years, Winnipeg’s MTS Centre was a 15,000-plus seat arena hosting the AHL’s Manitoba Moose before True North Sports and Entertainment locked up the Atlanta Thrashers in a relocation deal that brought the team to Winnipeg.

                  Whatever does end up happening, we can’t wait for the first major hockey event at the Videotron Centre.
                  If you’re looking for more photos, head over to the Facebook page containing construction photos of the building.
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                    Why would a team be moved to Seattle ? It's far too close to Vancouver


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                        old news but interesting read...

                        Quebec Remparts sold for between $20 million and $25 million: Source

                        By: Ken Campbell on November 27, 2014

                        Quebec Remparts (Photo by Richard Wolowicz/Getty Images)

                        For those who like to portray junior hockey as a string of Mom and Pop operations that struggle to make ends meet in the face of mounting efforts to unionize the players, today could not have been a good-news day.

                        According to multiple reports, the Quebec Remparts of the Quebec League have been sold to media giant Quebecor. (Which, in the interest of full disclosure, recently negotiated the purchase of 15 magazines from Transcontinental Media, one of which is The Hockey News.)

                        And you can be sure the sale was a blockbuster. We know the Remparts are worth a minimum of $16 million, since three years ago, a 25 percent stake in the franchise was purchased for $4 million by Andre Desmarais, co-CEO of Power Corporation. One source with knowledge of such matters said the deal was north of $20 million, and could perhaps be as high as $25 million. All of which means Colorado Avalanche coach Patrick Roy, who purchased the Beauport Harfangs franchise for $2 million in 1997 and moved it to Quebec City, will have a much, much fatter wallet.

                        This is an intriguing deal on several fronts, not the least of which is what it means to Quebecor’s attempts to get either an expansion or existing franchise in its new arena, which is scheduled to be completed in the fall of 2015. The $400 million, 18,000 seat arena is a public-private effort with an heavy emphasis on the public. Quebecor is paying $33 million for the naming rights and it’s expected the Remparts will move into the new digs and keep them warm in the anticipation of getting an NHL team.

                        Make no mistake, though, owning the Remparts is good business even without an NHL team. The Remparts draw an average of about 10,000 to the Pepsi Colisee, the former home of the Quebec Nordiques, and will host the Memorial Cup this spring, which should fill the coffers quite nicely. As we all know, costs of running a major junior team are low and when you get the kind of tickets sales and corporate sponsorship the Remparts get, it is a major cash cow.

                        But you’d have to think there’s more at play here. If those wanting an NHL team can prove to the hockey world that they can come close to filling an NHL arena for junior hockey, it will demonstrate even further that Quebec City is a fertile market for the NHL and it is ready to get its team back.
                        After all, the strategy worked magnificently for Winnipeg. Despite being home only to an American League team, True North Sports and Entertainment demolished the downtown Winnipeg Arena and replaced it with the 15,000-seat MTS Centre in 2004. And seven years later when the NHL was desperate to find a landing place for the Atlanta Thrashers, Winnipeg had an NHL-ready arena – albeit a small one by big-league standards – to accept them. Had Quebec City had its arena built by then, perhaps the Thrashers would now be the Nordiques.

                        Quebecor, which also owns the TVA Group, negotiated a deal with Rogers in which they’ll pay $120 million a year to be the French language broadcaster of the NHL. So with its tentacles spreading throughout the hockey landscape, Quebecor is undoubtedly readying itself for bigger things. Included in the new rink is a lavish television studio for TVA, which would give the network the ability to be up and running as a broadcaster if an NHL team comes to town.

                        Regardless, it looks as though there will be hockey in the new Quebec City arena the day it opens. It might not be exactly what the patrons are seeking, but they’re willing to be patient.
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                          Quebecor confirms NHL expansion bid


                          Pierre Dion, The Canadian Press

                          The return of the Quebec Nordiques took one step forward on Monday.

                          The Montreal-based media giant sent in its widely expected expansion bid to the National Hockey League before Monday's deadline. Prospective owners were to submit a $10 million down-payment with $2 million of it being non-refundable.

                          The Nordiques relocated to Denver and became the Colorado Avalanche for the 1995-1996 season after 16 NHL seasons played in Quebec City.
                          “Quebecor has consistently stated that its objective is to establish an NHL franchise in Quebec City and it intends to make every effort to achieve that goal,” the company said in statement late last month following NHL commissioner Gary Bettman's announcement that the league would be accepting expansion proposals.

                          With the new Videotron Centre, a venue seating 18,000-plus that will replace La Colisee Pepsi as Quebec City's primary hockey facility, close to completion, an arena would be in place for the 2017-2018 season, the earliest date that expansion could be carried out by the league. Quebecor already has an agreement in place with the city for usage of the arena.

                          “We know in the province of Quebec, hockey is a religion. We are all, as individuals, hockey maniacs,” Quebecor president and CEO Pierre Dion said last month. “Quebec is an extraordinary market and we have a corporation, Quebecor, who has shown for three or four years its willingness to be a major player in sports.”

                          The Quebec bid isn't expected to be the only one received by the NHL on Monday. A long rumoured Las Vegas bid led by Fidelity National Financial chairman Bill Foley is believed to be in the offing for Monday, while a bid for a second Toronto-area team is a possibility. No bids are expected from Seattle or Kansas City.

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                            How can the NHL possibly ignore the Quebec Nordiques now?

                            By: Ken Campbell on July 21, 2015

                            There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that legally obliges the NHL to grant an expansion franchise to Quebec City. In the 80-page expansion bid kit, the league repeatedly points out there are absolutely no guarantees, that the bid is a $2 million expression of interest only. And NHL commissioner Gary Bettman made all of that crystal clear when he announced the process in late June. “The fact that we’re going through the process doesn’t mean we are going to expand,” Bettman said at the time. “All it means is that we’re going to stop listening to expressions of interest and take a good, hard look at what they actually mean and represent.”
                            All that said, the NHL has no choice but to grant a franchise to the good people of Quebec City. Because even though the court of law is on the NHL’s side, the court of public opinion would crucify the NHL and Bettman if it did anything else at this point.

                            To frame this whole thing as anything but a disaster for the NHL would not do it justice. The league overvalued its own product and made the mistake of thinking there would be people who would do anything in order to get in. In effect, the NHL invited 16 people to its party and only two showed up. And now it says it will deal “exclusively” with Bill Foley in Las Vegas and Quebecor (which owns the subsidiary that owns The Hockey News) in Quebec City. Which is only fair.
                            But if you think the NHL isn’t upset about how all this unfolded, consider a news release the league sent out Tuesday to update the situation. “Our purpose, in initiating the expansion process in the manner we did, was not only to explore the possibility of admitting new members to the NHL but also, at the outset, to set realistic guideposts to distinguish between bona fide expressions of interest (i.e., those which have at least substantial ownership capabilities and an arena or the realistic possibility of an arena) from those indications of potential interest which were, at best, merely hopes or aspirations,” the release said. “Apparently, only Mr. Foley and Quebecor have the confidence in their ability to secure an arena and suitable ownership capability to move forward with this process.”

                            It’s not often you see the NHL being this snarky, mean-spirited and petty about something. And it’s a direct shot across the bow of venture capitalist Graeme Roustan in Toronto and Victor Coleman in Seattle. Say what you want about these guys, but they’ve both worked for years at trying to secure arena deals. They’ve spent their own time and money and invested a significant amount of emotional capital into their efforts. And because they couldn’t close an arena deal within two weeks, their efforts are labeled, “at best, merely hopes or aspirations.” Talk about a public shaming. The league doesn’t talk like this unless it is very, very angry.

                            So, in the end, the NHL got applications from the two markets whom everyone knew desperately wanted into the NHL club, and none from markets it desperately wants itself. And I’m not one to tell my employer what to do, but if I’m Quebecor the first thing I do today is send a bouquet of roses to Roustan and Coleman. Because their unwillingness to give in to the NHL’s ransom demands has basically painted the league into a corner.

                            Think about what Quebec City has done here. The NHL basically told prospective NHL owners that they need not even bother to apply for a team unless it had an arena in place. So with absolutely no guarantee of getting a team, the province of Quebec and Quebec City put up $400 million in taxpayer money to build an 18,000-seat arena that meets all the NHL’s specifications. The NHL then demanded a $10 million deposit, with $2 million of it non-refundable, again with no guarantees. It found a well-heeled corporate owner willing to do whatever the NHL asks, pay whatever amount it demands, to attain the dream of being back in the NHL.

                            So what happens now if the interests in Seattle get themselves aligned and come up with the means to put together an downtown arena deal? Does the NHL allow them back into the game? Does it do an end around and manipulate the process to give its preferred destination a team? Does it grant only one expansion franchise to Las Vegas and ignore Quebec City?

                            If any of those things happens, the optics of all of it will look terrible. So now instead of having applications from its two desired western cities, Las Vegas and Seattle – thereby leaving Quebec City and/or Toronto as a landing place for relocation – the league will now have to take one eastern team and one western team, which will not solve the geographic imbalance.

                            In short, if the league does not accept Quebec City into the club, this whole expansion process will be viewed as a sham. So, welcome to the club guys. Now let’s get The Battle of Quebec going again.
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                              Quebec franchise in Western Conference? Bettman says maybe, but don’t believe it

                              By: Jared Clinton on July 27, 2015

                              If Quebec City lands an expansion team, don’t expect the club to be jet setting across the continent to play a Western Conference schedule. It’s not that it’s impossible to achieve, it’s just that it doesn’t make any sense.

                              In an interview with the Boston Globe’s Amalie Benjamin, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman talked about the expansion process and the submitted bids by groups from Las Vegas and Quebec City. What caught the attention of most, however, were his comments regarding the possibility for the potential Quebec City franchise to be playing in the Western Conference.

                              “(Putting Quebec City in the Western Conference) is something we would obviously have to consider,” Bettman told Benjamin. “The experience with Winnipeg in the Southeast was less than ideal. The experience over time with Detroit and Columbus in the West — and they’re farther west geographically — they couldn’t wait to get into the East.

                              “So geography is an issue. But the fact that we identify it as an issue doesn’t mean we’ve reached a conclusion. It means it’s one of the things that has to be considered.”

                              The last line is the kicker: it’s something the league has considered. Just because they’ve considered the idea, though, doesn’t mean it will even come close to becoming a reality. And really, it likely never will.

                              Some have believed that the present Conference alignment, with 14 teams in the West and 16 in the East, would eventually give way to two expansion teams in what could be considered Western Conference cities. The thought, before the NHL’s application process, was those two teams would be in Las Vegas and Seattle. As Benjamin wrote in the Globe, “the best-case scenario,” would have then seen Quebec City’s new arena house a club in need of relocation.

                              By putting two teams out west, the NHL would level off its four divisions and make the two conferences an even 16/16 split. The thing is, Bettman has never said explicitly the league is looking at an even split. Even in the last realignment, the possibility of keeping one of either the Detroit Red Wings or Columbus Blue Jackets in the Western Conference would have evened the conferences. Instead, the league went with 16/14 and Bettman himself has said that if a 16/14 split has worked for the past two seasons, there’s no reason why a 17/15 split wouldn’t work as well.

                              The system isn’t perfect, but it’s better than one that sees either the Blue Jackets or Red Wings play outside of their time zone for the majority of the season. On top of that, it’s something both of those clubs wanted out of realignment. The same would likely be said for a new Quebec City franchise. So why, then, would the NHL bring Quebec City into the fold as a Western Conference club only to shift them back to the East within a few years’ time?

                              Beyond that, Bettman’s comments regarding the Southeast Division tenure of the Winnipeg Jets makes it clear the NHL would rather keep Quebec City from having to compete in the West. And considering Winnipeg’s situation wasn’t by design, it’s hard to imagine the NHL specifically planning for a Eastern Time Zone-based Western Conference team, especially when Boston would be the only NHL club further east than Quebec City.

                              Consider that when the Jets were stuck into the Eastern Conference’s now-defunct Southeast Division, they took the place of the Atlanta Thrashers, the club that had relocated north of the border to Winnipeg. It was a one-for-one replacement and a situation that didn’t appear to have the legs to last more than one campaign. As soon as the first season was over – and before the NHL could adjust the league’s makeup to fit the Jets into the West – the 2012-13 lockout happened. When the league opened its doors for the abridged campaign, a 48-game schedule was slapped together and realignment was put on hold, to be revisited in 2013-14. The 2013-14 realignment gave us the current structure.

                              If an expansion club is granted to Quebec City – and if the process comes to a close with enough time to spare – it wouldn’t begin play until the 2016-17 campaign at the earliest. That would give the NHL almost a full season to discuss and devise a plan for a new realignment that would fit Quebec City out east. The expansion process would help avoid the under-the-gun pressure the league faced for two consecutive seasons when Winnipeg joined the fray in 2011-12.

                              With the money put into television contracts, the league will want the highest viewership it can get. That comes from keeping teams within their regional time zone. Putting Quebec City in the West wouldn’t kill its television audience, but it would certainly shrink it by a few here and there, something neither the club nor the league would be pleased with.

                              All this is to say that if a rebirth of the Nordiques occurs, it won’t come with Quebec City battling the Colorado Avalanche for a playoff berth. Sure, the league may be “considering” putting Quebec City in the West, but that’s probably only if every other conceivable option fails first.
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