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  • #76
    "The great religious ages were notable for their indifference to human rights in the contemporary sense. They were notorious not only for acquiescence in poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression but for enthusiastic justifications of slavery, persecution, abandonment of small children, torture, genocide."

    Mike,

    I know you detest Religion, but this hypocritical logic that points a finger at " the great religion age" and ignores " the great objective rational corrupt capitalist age" as to human behavior that leads to "Poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression", is ridiculous.

    The great objective rational corrupt capitalist age and its worship of material gain at all costs has social cost elements in it that can result in "slavery, persecution, abandonment of small children, torture, genocide."

    In modern society, acquiescence to objective rational corrupt capitalism is the root cause today of "Poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression".

    Objective rationalists are as human as those that are members of religions.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Bowden View Post
      "The great religious ages were notable for their indifference to human rights in the contemporary sense. They were notorious not only for acquiescence in poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression but for enthusiastic justifications of slavery, persecution, abandonment of small children, torture, genocide."

      Mike,

      I know you detest Religion, but this hypocritical logic that points a finger at " the great religion age" and ignores " the great objective rational corrupt capitalist age" as to human behavior that leads to "Poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression", is ridiculous.

      The great objective rational corrupt capitalist age and its worship of material gain at all costs has social cost elements in it that can result in "slavery, persecution, abandonment of small children, torture, genocide."

      In modern society, acquiescence to objective rational corrupt capitalism is the root cause today of "Poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression".

      Objective rationalists are as human as those that are members of religions.
      You are correct. I don't agree with every quote I put here. These are the thoughts of agnostics that I find interesting...right or wrong.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Bowden View Post
        "The great religious ages were notable for their indifference to human rights in the contemporary sense. They were notorious not only for acquiescence in poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression but for enthusiastic justifications of slavery, persecution, abandonment of small children, torture, genocide."

        Mike,

        I know you detest Religion, but this hypocritical logic that points a finger at " the great religion age" and ignores " the great objective rational corrupt capitalist age" as to human behavior that leads to "Poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression", is ridiculous.

        The great objective rational corrupt capitalist age and its worship of material gain at all costs has social cost elements in it that can result in "slavery, persecution, abandonment of small children, torture, genocide."

        In modern society, acquiescence to objective rational corrupt capitalism is the root cause today of "Poverty, inequality, exploitation and oppression".

        Objective rationalists are as human as those that are members of religions.
        Why are most of those people a part of the religious right? Why does the religious right deny climate change? They welcome the end times, and want to consciously facilitate it also.

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        • #79
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          • #80
            Originally posted by mike pulcinella View Post
            “It took me years, but letting go of religion has been the most profound wake up of my life. I feel I now look at the world not as a child, but as an adult. I see what's bad and it's really bad. But I also see what is beautiful, what is wonderful. And I feel so deeply appreciative that I am alive. How dare the religious use the term 'born again.' That truly describes freethinkers who've thrown off the shackles of religion so much better!”
            - Julia Sweeney, comedienne, freethinker
            Great quote, feel the same.

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            • #81
              "A blessed and imperishable being neither has trouble itself nor does it cause trouble for anyone else; therefore, it does not experience feelings of anger or indebtedness, for such feelings signify weakness."

              - Epicurus
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              • #82
                "Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived"
                -- Isaac Asimov, author, scientist, president of the American Humanist Association, and freethinker in Yours, Isaac Asimov, a Lifetime of Letters, edited by Stanley Asimov, 1995
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                • #83
                  “Who is more humble? The scientist who looks at the universe with an open mind and accepts whatever the universe has to teach us, or somebody who says everything in this book must be considered the literal truth and never mind the fallibility of all the human beings involved?”
                  Carl Sagan
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                  • #84
                    “If God existed (a question concerning which Jubal maintained a meticulous intellectual neutrality) and if He desired to be worshiped (a proposition which Jubal found inherently improbable but conceivably possible in the dim light of his own ignorance), then (stipulating affirmatively both the above) it nevertheless seemed wildly unlikely to Jubal to the point of reductio ad absurdum that a God potent to shape galaxies would be titillated and swayed by the whoop-te-do nonsense the Fosterites offered Him as "worship.”

                    Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
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                    • #85
                      I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

                      Susan B. Anthony
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                      • #86
                        Some cool stuff being posted here(sincerely). I see some objectivity(referencing the last 10 or 20 posts) . Respects.
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                        • #87
                          “You don’t have to be brave or a saint, a martyr, or even very smart to be an atheist. All you have to be able to say is “I don’t know”.”
                          Penn Jillette, God, No!: Signs You May Already Be an Atheist and Other Magical Tales
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