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  • #16
    Originally posted by Donny View Post
    my best friend was Catholic.
    cool
    "I'm tired of always being right. It gives me an unfair advantage when I debate Alemannic German speaking trolls."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Donny View Post
      I met that guy too who did it. I went to that school.
      I just googled the Cathedral and that came up. Crazy people everywhere...

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      • #18
        How would you know it's true ???

        your post is great but it's too vague ?

        If it turns out Christ was true how many people would change ?

        Most people !!!

        because then it wouldn't be about faith !!!

        It wouldnt be about belief or hope because wed know its true !!!!!

        so , lol, then it would be the science of Christ !!!


        interesting hypothetical but a genuine non sequitar, 0xy moron, etc....

        The basic premise of Christ is about believing first !!!!!


        if you already know something's true it's not a belief anymore, it's a fact !!!!


        And that wouldn't happen in reality because that would dismantle and destroy the whole complete point of Christianity !!!!!

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        • #19
          Ps - this post got me thinking DEADn

          thanks for posting it !!!!

          Originally posted by DEADn View Post
          If Christianity turned out to be true would you then become a Christian?

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          • #20
            Of course I would believe. It's not a hard sell eternal life who doesn't want that. An actual meaning of life and the universe .

            The flip is if Christianity was absouletly proven false could you believe it ? It would be a hard pill to swallow from glory to the big nothing , now that's a leap. We are biologically programmed for survival to live. Could you wash away notions of eternal life in exchange for death

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            • #21
              Could i I wash away notions of eternal life in exchange for death ???


              what does that mean ????

              i read the question several times ???

              im trying to understand it bro



              Originally posted by thegoon View Post
              Of course I would believe. It's not a hard sell eternal life who doesn't want that. An actual meaning of life and the universe .

              The flip is if Christianity was absouletly proven false could you believe it ? It would be a hard pill to swallow from glory to the big nothing , now that's a leap. We are biologically programmed for survival to live. Could you wash away notions of eternal life in exchange for death

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bantamweightchamp2014 View Post
                Could i I wash away notions of eternal life in exchange for death ???


                what does that mean ????

                i read the question several times ???

                im trying to understand it bro
                I'm not sure what his intentions were , so I won't speculate. I get out of the question is that if all doubt was removed and it was no longer an issue of faith would you be a Christain. My answer is without a doubt yes. If I had evidence to believe it of course I would follow because I'd want eternal life in heaven.

                My point is that even with evidence people would fight the notion of atheism . As it would mean there is only death . It's a much tougher pill to swallow

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                • #23
                  My OP is to initially ask if you found out Christianity is true would you believe?

                  The intent is to test the heart when it comes to truth. Some people would not become a believer if they found out Christianity were true because they hate it that much. If I found out something other than Christianity were true I would probably find myself wrestling with it for a while and then gradually succumb myself to it. After all, if it is true then I am only lying to myself if I refuse to accept it. That is the nature of truth. If you don't believe truth then you believe a lie.

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                  • #24
                    100 %


                    QUOTE=thegoon;4279660]I'm not sure what his intentions were , so I won't speculate. I get out of the question is that if all doubt was removed and it was no longer an issue of faith would you be a Christain. My answer is without a doubt yes. If I had evidence to believe it of course I would follow because I'd want eternal life in heaven.

                    My point is that even with evidence people would fight the notion of atheism . As it would mean there is only death . It's a much tougher pill to swallow[/QUOTE]

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                    • #25
                      Absolutely !!!

                      and that's what I've been saying for years !!!

                      which brings up the topic of the Holy Ghost

                      " the comforter "

                      which on on many occasions baffles, irritates, and surprisingly creates a sort of hostility and satire during deeper discussion and examination of Christ's doctrine !

                      Especially among my Jewish, Muslim , atheist , and science friends !!!

                      for example , the Bible and Book of Mormon both clearly state in specific verses that The Holy Ghost will manifest the truth and mission of Christ IF the reader/seeker of truth has an honest and pure heart for discovering the facts !!!



                      Originally posted by DEADn View Post
                      My OP is to initially ask if you found out Christianity is true would you believe?

                      The intent is to test the heart when it comes to truth. Some people would not become a believer if they found out Christianity were true because they hate it that much. If I found out something other than Christianity were true I would probably find myself wrestling with it for a while and then gradually succumb myself to it. After all, if it is true then I am only lying to myself if I refuse to accept it. That is the nature of truth. If you don't believe truth then you believe a lie.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bantamweightchamp2014 View Post
                        Absolutely !!!

                        and that's what I've been saying for years !!!

                        which brings up the topic of the Holy Ghost

                        " the comforter "

                        which on on many occasions baffles, irritates, and surprisingly creates a sort of hostility and satire during deeper discussion and examination of Christ's doctrine !

                        Especially among my Jewish, Muslim , atheist , and science friends !!!

                        for example , the Bible and Book of Mormon both clearly state in specific verses that The Holy Ghost will manifest the truth and mission of Christ IF the reader/seeker of truth has an honest and pure heart for discovering the facts !!!

                        But if you look closer Mormon teaching paints a different picture of who Jesus is vs what the bible says. The Holy Spirit is not in the teaching of the Mormon church. In their teaching Jesus is a created being and never was God at all but the brother of Lucifer. Jesus became a god and has his own planet with spirit kids. Mormons believe they will become gods and have their own planet. There is no mentioned of sin and repentance and being born again or adopted of God in their teaching. It is opposite of what the bible teaches.

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                        • #27
                          Thank you Deadn for your feedback !!!

                          trust me brother, those statements you suggested just aren't true !

                          I was raised in The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints !!!

                          We teach Christ's Doctrine !!!

                          we believe in the Bible AND the Book Of Mormon !!!

                          I've been a member for 48 years !!!

                          I know more about this church than anyone you've came in contact with !!!

                          trust me


                          Originally posted by DEADn View Post
                          But if you look closer Mormon teaching paints a different picture of who Jesus is vs what the bible says. The Holy Spirit is not in the teaching of the Mormon church. In their teaching Jesus is a created being and never was God at all but the brother of Lucifer. Jesus became a god and has his own planet with spirit kids. Mormons believe they will become gods and have their own planet. There is no mentioned of sin and repentance and being born again or adopted of God in their teaching. It is opposite of what the bible teaches.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by bantamweightchamp2014 View Post
                            Thank you Deadn for your feedback !!!

                            trust me brother, those statements you suggested just aren't true !

                            I was raised in The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints !!!

                            We teach Christ's Doctrine !!!

                            we believe in the Bible AND the Book Of Mormon !!!

                            I've been a member for 48 years !!!

                            I know more about this church than anyone you've came in contact with !!!

                            trust me
                            Was God once a man?

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                            • #29
                              Yes, God the Father was once a man

                              According to our teachings

                              but Deadn, that doesn't negate our other tenets !!!

                              baptism, sacrament, the Bible, the Book of Mormon, etc....

                              Like I told you earlier, no one you know knows the church like I do

                              I'm not lying dude, we are on muscular development lol

                              I have nothing to lose or gain

                              at least your respectful with your dialogue

                              I appreciate that

                              most people can't handle mature open dialogue on religion




                              Originally posted by DEADn View Post
                              Was God once a man?
                              Last edited by bantamweightchamp2014; August 29th, 2017, 10:08 PM.

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                              • #30
                                I created a new thread for the last few posts of this thread about Mormonism so it doesn't derail the subject of this thread.

                                http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...31#post4281331

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