Phil Heath vs Jay Cutler Pre-judging Comparisons Photos. WHOs GOT THIS!?!?!

**TMP912** · September 17th, 2011, 03:01 AM

really sucks for jay, his arm and shoulder look fucked, im glad vic and kai were called out first along with wolf and dex. Phil looks like champ, 2nd jay, then either Kai of wofl. Synthol? or did he hurt hiself getting into his car???

**Carnage** · September 17th, 2011, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by TMP912

really sucks for jay, his arm and shoulder look fucked, im glad vic and kai were called out first along with wolf and dex. Phil looks like champ, 2nd jay, then either Kai of wofl. Synthol? or did he hurt hiself getting into his car???

his body was in a weakened state and couldn't support the 20 lb dumbbells or the Pilates bands

**bolsen** · September 17th, 2011, 03:12 AM

i feel bad for him. he should NOT be remembered like this. i honestly feel bad right now.

**Carnage** · September 17th, 2011, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by bolsen

i feel bad for him. he should NOT be remembered like this. i honestly feel bad right now.

fucked up way to go out...and if he still wins the o....ill never ever watch this show or support and weider product again.

Mini Forklift Ⓥ · September 17th, 2011, 03:17 AM

Man, I'm one of Jay's biggest fans but WTF did he do to his bicep. Fuck.

**tneal1** · September 17th, 2011, 03:18 AM

first of all there is absolutely no need for Jay to inject into his arm...especially one and not the other, so clearly its a tear or strain or something going on. He could have done it during his final week where if anybody has competed ever knows...there is a much higher chance of tearing a muscle due to low BF % and nearly no water in the body. That being said, it does not look the greatest but you cannot take away the fact that he out masses Phil, has a grainy harder look to him. Phil is more pleasant to look at for sure, but this is not a beauty paget...Cutler is big, ripped, and the current 4x champ. He has another day to cut some more fluid and tighten up and if he can, i'm sure he will walk away with his 5th and possibly say goodbye after the Sheru. Again just my opinion but i believe logical

**Antoine** · September 17th, 2011, 03:18 AM

Im sorry PHIL got this..... look at them from the back.... NO WAY phil is weak from the back anymore!!! man that back double bi... the craziest ive seen in a long time...

**djjacobie** · September 17th, 2011, 03:19 AM

maybe they will drain that abscess in Jays Left bi before the finals? You can see by the color that its filled with blood and puss and its even drained/spilled/spread into his forearm....I bet it hurts too! If not for that he looks great.

Heath looks unreal and deserves the win

Wolf looks awesome

Vic is great but it sucks that his quads are so small still, If they were bigger then he'd win it

Kai isnt completely ready yet

Dex looks like Dex

**Big A_Rod** · September 17th, 2011, 03:22 AM

1. PHIL
2. JAY
3. DENNIS

Jay is still looking huge ... arm is looking fucked though

**Unreal017** · September 17th, 2011, 03:22 AM

Jay has this O wrapped up as long as he holds down his conditioning. Jays left bicep looks way to akward and suspicious. Either its torn (darker color shade) or injected. If injected, this can ruin his reputation quite rapidly. On top of that, he looks beat up like some of the folks on this forum has mentioned. I have heard rumors of him mentioning retirement after this Mr. O. But we will find out tomorrow for sure if it was a rumor or not. Best of luck to Jay, Phil, Kai, Vic, Dexter, and the rest of the Mr. O competitor.

I love the sport and have no negative feelings on any of them. If Jay did in fact use synthol, then he put a bad name to the sport and will never follow him again. It would be a shame. But I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Good luck to all Mr.O Competitors! Go Phil Heath!

**Chode Logan** · September 17th, 2011, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by Unreal017

Jay has this O wrapped up as long as he holds down his conditioning. Jays left bicep looks way to akward and suspicious. Either its torn (darker color shade) or injected. If injected, this can ruin his reputation quite rapidly. On top of that, he looks beat up like some of the folks on this forum has mentioned. I have heard rumors of him mentioning retirement after this Mr. O. But we will find out tomorrow for sure if it was a rumor or not. Best of luck to Jay, Phil, Kai, Vic, Dexter, and the rest of the Mr. O competitor.

I love the sport and have no negative feelings on any of them. If Jay did in fact use synthol, then he put a bad name to the sport and will never follow him again. It would be a shame. But I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Good luck to all Mr.O Competitors! Go Phil Heath!

I can pretty much promise you almost everyone on that stage has used it at some point.........its part of the game these days. I think he either fucked his Bi up and shot a bunch of shit in there to fill it out, or he wanted to shoot some SEO before the show to battle Phil who has the most retarded arms on the planet.

**Frederick** · September 17th, 2011, 03:25 AM

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**Chode Logan** · September 17th, 2011, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Frederick

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Hahaha. Well done

**Unreal017** · September 17th, 2011, 03:30 AM

You are probably right. Just looking after all his poses, the rear double bi pose seems as he is not flexing his left bicept completely. I am going with a torn bicep then SEO. Thats my 2 cents. I cant see Jay injecting that on a Mr. O title defense. I refuse to believe it. But we will find out sooner or later.

youngitalianstallion · September 17th, 2011, 03:30 AM

after watching this pictures i see that his left shoulder is noticable getting worst... if you compare with last year picture the left shoulder was little bit smaller that the right but this year is noticable small... his bis looks like one of markus ruhl... jay bodys is brutallly beaten... looks like Dorian Yates in 1997... still with the capicity to win but without a huge no questionable victory... this is jay last year... i'm really sorry for jay cuse he was the one that made my join the bodybuilding world in 2007... i hope he can take home this last sandow and then retire... he's been competing since he was 16? he's been travelling all world for years no stop to promote bodybuilding... now he need to retire and became a new Arnold... promote his competition and with all his money create a competition like the Arnold Classic.. he's the greatest ambassador of the sport... but now it's time to retire and leave the door open for other people...