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    When you are in great condition a few weeks before a contest and have done everything in your power to be looking great without any unnecessary manipulations -- you technically should be able to coast into the day of the show.

    However --- I still hear people using depletion methods along with sodium and carb manipulations starting 10 days out or so.....REALLY!?!?! You either look good or not at 10 days out and are only asking for trouble if doing this.

    I witnessed a guy who could have won an overall this last Saturday lose by doing manipulations that were completely uncalled for.

    I will say this --- Diuretics are NOT mandatory and you can be ultra dry without them, but choosing the RIGHT diuretic can definitely be an "insurance policy" in a sense.

    I only feel comfortable advocating dyazide (triameterine/HCTZ) which is potassium sparing and acts very fast upon using. 1/2 tabs are all that is needed the evening before show time. It's just icing on the cake.

    I still cannot figure out why guru's / competitors insist on using Aldactone for diuretic properties??? It's a friggin ANTI-ANDROGEN that is not a diuretic but an aldosterone blocker that takes 3-4 days to build up in blood.

    Yet prep coaches will sometimes throw this in 1-2 days out which is really not adequate time for it to even work properly. Using aldactone is favored because it is considered "safe" and potassium sparing. However -- once this Androgen Blocker builds up in the blood --- chances are you may go very flat. Once aldosterone is blocked --- "shitload" on all the bacon burgers you want because it wont fill you because the aldosterone is now blocked and vascularity from increased blood pressure is non existent.

    So use dyazide or nothing at all.

    As for Sodium and carbs should REMAIN pretty much the same all during the final week --- and perhaps lowering sodium 1 day out is really as "extreme"as it should get. Carbs by that time are most likely low and you are looking dry and full due to high water and high sodium.

    For carb loading --- that is something that can be done 1 day out or the morning of the show. Trust me --- you do not need 3 days of 800g / 1000g/ and 600g of carbs for weds, thurs and fri!!!!

    That is asking for trouble! Most people fail to realize that you store anywhere from 175-250g in your liver , and anywhere from 375-500 as muscle glycogen.

    Let's give the benefit of the doubt and say you are bigger than average (225lbs ripped) and are "depleted" so you now might be able to store more than that ---so instead if approximately 500-750g of glycogen,,,, you can top out at 1000g.

    I would rather be 80% "full" and dry as all hell, then to push the envelope from 3000 grams of yams for 3 days!!!!

    Trust me, high water and high sodium will keep you NOT flat.

    Summation:
    • Be in shape 2 weeks out
    • keep water high and sodium high until friday before show
    • If using an "insurance policy" (diuretic) opt for dyazide only
    • Do not load carbs for 3 days to astronomical amounts
    • Use 1 day or day of show to load carbs and dry out simultaneously.



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    Thanks for the post up bro. I'm going into my first prep soon and this brief summary was perfect.

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    Good write up. I think a lot of guys go extreme and drastic with manipulation when its clear their fat just wasn't low enough or it was and they fucked themselves by not sticking to game plan

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    How do you feel about diuretics for naturals?

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    sounds like you know your shit man

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    You should give this advice to Heinz Senior, he's in desperate need of help

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    roid rage..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HulkSlam View Post
    How do you feel about diuretics for naturals?
    Tricky because the natural can "flatten out" out and deflate in a blink of an eye. They do not have anabolic and androgenic help to keep the muscles full and round looking. AAS aid in intracellular water, and makes you look full.

    A natural should not do anything crazy and just do pretty much ZERO fine tuning before a show because they are not taking X + Y + Z compounds which aas users have to account for. If anything the natural athlete could take a 1/4 -1/2 tab of dyazide and simply KEEP drinking water to stay somewhat full. But never completely CUT FLUIDS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiMadePunk View Post
    You should give this advice to Heinz Senior, he's in desperate need of help

    Heinz just simply needs to be LEANER --- he most likely is afraid to lose to muuch fullness and size. No tricks for him other than to diet harder and peel BF.

    Not water issue --- but a BF issue.

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    OBVIOUSLY!!! Such blasphemy spewed on this thread !!! Who is MATT to advise. Apparently he does not know that Sil has trained hundreds no...thousands creme de la creme of the country's elite.were talking 1% of the country's best athletes,hollywood stars,porn actresses and the list goes
    http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...GREE-IN-SPORTS

    Seriously Matt, Just having some fun with you this is really a great informative thread...Good work still Sil's been rocking the trolling fo sho so mad props to both of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lil mama View Post
    OBVIOUSLY!!! Such blasphemy spewed on this thread !!! Who is MATT to advise. Apparently he does not know that Sil has trained hundreds no...thousands creme de la creme of the country's elite.were talking 1% of the country's best athletes,hollywood stars,porn actresses and the list goes
    http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...GREE-IN-SPORTS

    Seriously Matt, Just having some fun with you this is really a great informative thread...Good work still Sil's been rocking the trolling fo sho so mad props to both of you.
    1.that really hurt
    2.i'm not a troll
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    YES, YES you do babe. Totally just forgot about the extensive ejamacation you have forgive me all knowing guru of a coach.

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    2.i'm not a troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiMadePunk View Post
    You should give this advice to Heinz Senior, he's in desperate need of help

    dude is 8 weeks out on the diet and carb depleted, needs to fire his dealer

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    Matt- very good input.. sounds very similar to my last prep.. hmmm genius
    its all uphill from here..

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    I ran aldactone starting a week out at 25mg twice a day. Did wonders for me. But also kept prop in till last week and shitloaded. Didn't mess with water or.sodium though. Kept bot very high up until day of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KindaSwol View Post
    Matt- very good input.. sounds very similar to my last prep.. hmmm genius
    lol

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