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[allnatural42]

Anything less than that is not 'shredded' - I get tired of hearing people who can see their abs telling everyone they are 'shredded' at 250 - seeing abs at 250 means you won't see striated glutes til around 225!

Agreed!!!!

[allnatural42]

And getting to that point SUCKS - you have to feel like walking death to get that lean.

Agreed!!! Slurring and having no energy to stand is not fun either.

[Trey Dunbar]

I'm a top of the weight class for an all natural middleweight natural pro. If I can build it naturally and look damn good then pumping myself with the amount some of these guys take and yes, I do believe I would be a pro. Maybe a 202 pro. :-) Would I do any damage, who knows? Lmao.
I totally agree. Being in this field for 24+ years, I know genetics plays a huge role, but I also know smart, intense training does too and I feel that most guys nowadays are lazy and don't work themselves with intensity like the old days when I first got into this hobby.

Your a natural Pro??? Pics?

[phrankey11]

I'm a top of the weight class for an all natural middleweight natural pro. If I can build it naturally and look damn good then pumping myself with the amount some of these guys take and yes, I do believe I would be a pro. Maybe a 202 pro. :-) Would I do any damage, who knows? Lmao.
I totally agree. Being in this field for 24+ years, I know genetics plays a huge role, but I also know smart, intense training does too and I feel that most guys nowadays are lazy and don't work themselves with intensity like the old days when I first got into this hobby.

No mo 202 homie.

[bolsen]

I do think I could get to 200, but I don't think I'd be able to hit 250 no matter how much I took !!

Bullshit. You could any weight. You just might not look good at 250. I've gained so much weight in the post few months. All while eating whatever I want, and barely hitting 150GM protein pet day.

[Hardly Krishna]

Bullshit. You could any weight. You just might not look good at 250. I've gained so much weight in the post few months. All while eating whatever I want, and barely hitting 150GM protein pet day.

Yeah but chances of him hitting a lean 250 would be nil

[bigrgc]

In this interview he said he was doing all natural until Flex told him what to do. Fast forward to 10:50.

All natural IFBB pro Ronnie Coleman? Lol!

[bolsen]

No, lean is insane at 250. But purely strength and weight, he could do it.

[FLIP]

Anyone and I mean anyone under reasonable height can get to 250 lean(single digits) with the right amount AAS, pharm grade GH and slin. It might not be pretty and you damn sure ain't gonna look like a pro but u will be big and ripped AND BROKE

[juxtaposedhearts0]

Yeah but chances of him hitting a lean 250 would be nil

If he had slin any weight is possible.

[UriahMcGee]

Anyone and I mean anyone under reasonable height can get to 250 lean(single digits) with the right amount AAS, pharm grade GH and slin. It might not be pretty and you damn sure ain't gonna look like a pro but u will be big and ripped AND BROKE

so essentially you are saying anyone can get to 270+ and cut down to 250?

[juxtaposedhearts0]

so essentially you are saying anyone can get to 270+ and cut down to 250?

Pretty much yah.

[UriahMcGee]

If he had slin any weight is possible.

he is like 140lbs now he aint hitting 250 no matter what he takes

[UriahMcGee]

Pretty much yah.

thats definitely not accurate

[Hardly Krishna]

he is like 140lbs now he aint hitting 250 no matter what he takes

Depending on how tall he is it's very possible, I was speaking in terms of him maintaining natural status. But 250lbs is possible with proper diet and serious chemical therapy.

[UriahMcGee]

Depending on how tall he is it's very possible, I was speaking in terms of him maintaining natural status. But 250lbs is possible with proper diet and serious chemical therapy.

if he got to 200+ naturally then maybe so...starting gear from 140lbs nah

[Pro-Primal]

OK - I need a two second education as I train at home and don't use "supplements", so my knowledge of that area is very rudimentary.

What is slin?