Before Gear.......After Gear

**CHOSEN01** · June 17th, 2012, 11:59 AM

^You've been letting us all know lately more than ever, feeling down on yourself big guy?

**Sexybeast777** · June 17th, 2012, 12:26 PM

^I'm fine, what do you mean?

**allnatural42** · June 17th, 2012, 04:00 PM

All fucking drugs. Whatever they say, multiple by 20. It's not training, it's not that the same guys would still be their if they didn't use because looking at these pics, they are not genetic freaks. It's all an insane amount of drugs. Cocktails galore. I'm sick of hearing otherwise. Be real and just tell us. Cmon, give us the truth.

**Lorenzo Marinčić** · June 17th, 2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by allnatural42

All fucking drugs. Whatever they say, multiple by 20. It's not training, it's not that the same guys would still be their if they didn't use because looking at these pics, they are not genetic freaks. It's all an insane amount of drugs. Cocktails galore. I'm sick of hearing otherwise. Be real and just tell us. Cmon, give us the truth.

you might be the only person I truly hate..

**Kontour** · June 17th, 2012, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by allnatural42

All fucking drugs. Whatever they say, multiple by 20. It's not training, it's not that the same guys would still be their if they didn't use because looking at these pics, they are not genetic freaks. It's all an insane amount of drugs. Cocktails galore. I'm sick of hearing otherwise. Be real and just tell us. Cmon, give us the truth.

I pretty much agree man. Everyone used to say "Kontour, you are tiny and could never be huge" and now I do admit, I will never be HUGE. Not just because of my "genetics" but mainly bc I will never take grams of gear for years, use slin and GH, and pop orals like candy so I will never know how big I could really be.

Where you and I differ is in the disdain you have for these guys. I think it's awesome to see guys like Cedric, Antoine, Levrone and others who can be massive but still have pleasing physiques. I don't really care what they use. It's the nature of this "sport." I don't care what claims they make, all that matters is what they look like when they are actually competing as bodybuilders. After bodybuilding, they should stop taking the drugs and be healthy and "small." That is the smart thing to do.

**stangerman** · June 17th, 2012, 04:45 PM

THe drugs make a big difference, but as a fan of bodybuilding I dont care that they do. Sure theres tons of work and preparation to get to look like that....... I would never say different. And when you are talking about the elite of the elite in the sport, genetics play a HUGE role.......BUT ALL THE TOP PROS use a lot more drugs then they want you to think they do. As much as they hate fans attributing it all to drugs, cut the bullshit already. Denial is a motherfucker.