Kiyoshi wins his 4th Natural Olympia Title

[HammerStrength12]

Yes it was... Personally Ive never followed the crap diets Ive seen other pros eat. My diet as well as others have been basic i.e old school. A lot of the diets you "hear" about are exaggerated. Ive talked to hundreds of natties who eat normally. Unfortunately the few you see or hear about make the rest of us look crazy. As for why we didnt take the supps... Who actually knows what was being put into that crap??? Definitly didnt want that crap in my body.

PH and designers are mostly just raws. IMO there's really no crap in them, you generally know exactly what you are getting.

My point was that staying on certain supplements year round (pre-workouts, carb products, etc etc) is more dangerous than running a couple cycles of some very clean prohormones like 1-ad or 4-ad.

Thanks for the response though. Clarifies things about about the diet.

[Trey Dunbar]

PH and designers are mostly just raws. IMO there's really no crap in them, you generally know exactly what you are getting.

My point was that staying on certain supplements year round (pre-workouts, carb products, etc etc) is more dangerous than running a couple cycles of some very clean prohormones like 1-ad or 4-ad.

Thanks for the response though. Clarifies things about about the diet.

No problem anytime. Do you remember the original designers that came out in the late 90's and early 2000's? Do you remember all the recalls? Or how many batches were coming back tainted or "dirty"? Before bodybuilding I ran track/cross-country in highschool and college. After seeing all that, I was afraid to touch anything and fail a drug test. Other college athletes were tested.... So in general you stayed away from all of it.

[HammerStrength12]

No problem anytime. Do you remember the original designers that came out in the late 90's and early 2000's? Do you remember all the recalls? Or how many batches were coming back tainted or "dirty"? Before bodybuilding I ran track/cross-country in highschool and college. After seeing all that, I was afraid to touch anything and fail a drug test. Other college athletes were tested.... So in general you stayed away from all of it.

True. A lot of them were "contaminated" with substances that weren't legal in those feds.

[Trey Dunbar]

True. A lot of them were "contaminated" with substances that weren't legal in those feds.

Exactly I wasnt about to lose my scholarship just to try something. Im sure if you look around a lot of the natural pros started out as college athletes.

[JTCars87]

Exactly I wasnt about to lose my scholarship just to try something. Im sure if you look around a lot of the natural pros started out as college athletes.

Do look at yourself in the mirror and tug the slug? Cause you fucking LOVE YOURSELF.

[Trey Dunbar]

Do look at yourself in the mirror and tug the slug? Cause you fucking LOVE YOURSELF.

I try to limit that... My wife might start asking to many questions.



Theres a huge difference between arrogance and confidence.

[Zenith]

kiyoshi hams from the side are weak.. no hang

Really?

[bigrgc]

Natural and drug tested are two totally different things. Lets call it what it is: drug tested, and passed test

[Sexybeast777]

Haters will hate, but the truth is some genetically gifted athletes are capable of great things, haters will hate

[Angelo_29]

Haters will hate, but the truth is some genetically gifted athletes are capable of great things, like me and my 20 inch guns.. haters will hate

Truuuuu

[D-NUTZ]

Really?

They don't look like that on stage, which is when it matters.

[HangingLegRaise]

Haters will hate, but the truth is I'm really really gay and love the taste of dick, haters will hate

fixed.

[JRob23]

lol @ taking your "crocs" off to hit a pose

Should of hid them a little better

[Sexybeast777]

fixed.

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