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A) Delusional, and want to believe they can be the size of a pro with enough gear
B) Drug gurus and/or drug dealers (often one and the same) who stand to profit from promoting that delusion.
Farrellzach is a very intelligent guy from the contest of his posts, but he continues to assert that he can take 'anyone' and get them to pro size. Though this is far from a perfect analogy, this is like an MMA coach saying he can take 'anyone' and have them fighting as well as the top men of the UFC. There has to be a good amount of raw talent to begin with.
Another thing is going back 15 plus years ago people seemed to enjoy working out and the ones who competed did it for the challenge and personal satisfaction. Drugs were there in varying degree but for the most part this whole so called "in the know" erea has ruined working out in general ad bodybuilding at the grassroots because people are taking godawful amounts from the start just to compete at even the novice and regional level because of what they think xyz pro did or assume they did/do.
I mean you have kids today that dont even know how many calories there are in an average egg using a whack of shit, training half assed(chest/shoulders/arms 3-4 times a week with some leg extenisions partial leg presses hammer pulldowns and rows thrown in here and there) and relying on protein drinks to make up for the shit they eat and the x, horse tranqs, coke, oxys etc they abuse all weekend because they just want to look good at a massive 160lbs on the weekend. Hey if thats a persons goal then go for it but n need to vn use juice for some of the physiques I see in the gym and what guys are using to get it. Then they point at pros today and say, well "well he looks like that because he takes so much more than everyone"
Perhaps, but xyz pro/amateur(the ones who last for years) hasnt missed an in/off season meal very often, actually trains their whole body and uses the squat rack for barbell curls because they can actually curl 135-225 in decent form.
Also most guys on these internet boards the majority love to show off their deadlift prowess in videos yet rarely show off their squat process. Dont get me wrong deads are a hard exercise but squats are many times harder and frnkly most dont do them. I am referring to the younger crowd of teens and twentysomethings here.
My point is all these people who cop out that the other guy uses more are the same ones that done eat right for the goals they have, and they dont do ost of the actual old school growth moves that the biggest guys did in the first place to get that original bulk before going on the gas. Instead they put the drugs first and expect it to do most of the work.
A standard is set when performance is taken to a new level.