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    Ray Lewis & Deer Antler Velvet Spray. Is It This Generationís Andro and Does It Really Work?
    Ray Lewis & Deer Antler Velvet Spray

    Is It This Generationís Andro and Does It Really Work?

    By Joe Pietaro

    Nearly 15 years ago, the supplement industry exploded upon the discovery that St. Louis Cardinals slugger Mark McGwire was using Andro during his record-breaking home run chase. The previously little-known precursor of testosterone was actually a bottled version of androstenedione, which was totally legal, for sale at every vitamin store and not on Major League Baseballís banned substance list.
    So when Associated Press reporter Steve Wilstein noticed a bottle of it inside McGwireís locker stall after a game during the 1998 season, the inquisitive scribe asked him about it and the story then took on a life of its own. For the purists of the National Pastime, they viewed it as an unfair advantage that paved the way for Roger Marisís then-37-year-old record of 61 home runs to eventually be not only broken, but also smashed. (By the end of that memorable summer, McGwire hit 70 long balls and Sammy Sosa of the Chicago Cubs had 66.)
    But there was a large contingent that flocked to their local GNC or Vitamin Shoppe and plunked down their hard-earned money for a bottle. Hey, if it can make a baseball player look like a bodybuilder, then the skies the limit if you already have a muscular build.
    Eventually, substances such as Andro were taken off the shelf and it was classified as an anabolic steroid by the United States federal government in 2004. And years following his retirement, McGwire admitted to using substances much stronger than that.
    Fast forward to the present and coincidentally; we have another sports superstar mired in a performance-enhancing drug tap dance. Rey Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens is enjoying his swan song with a trip to Super Bowl XLVII, but found himself denying the use of deer antler velvet spray instead of talking about his teamís chances of beating the favored San Francisco 49ers.
    Sports Illustrated broke the story that Lewis Ė while rehabbing a torn triceps muscle suffered in October Ė had been using a product named The Ultimate Spray, manufactured and sold by an Alabama-based company entitled Sports With Alternatives to Steroids, or S.W.A.T.S. for short. The extract reportedly contains IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor-1), which is on the NFLís banned substance list.
    ďNo, never,Ē was Lewisís response to a question during SBXLVII Media Day if he used the deer antler spray after his latest injury. ďI wonít even speak about it.Ē
    Although the claims made by S.W.A.T.S. are reminiscent of an old west snake oil sales pitch, there is no specific scientific proof that using deer antler extract will improve athletic performance. In one 14-week, double blind study, 38 males were split into three groups, with 12 taking 300 milligrams per day of deer antler velvet extract, 13 using 1.5 grams of deer antler velvet powder and 12 taking placebo capsules. The results? No significant difference between them for strength, body mass, IGF-1 or testosterone levels.
    ďThe objective scientific studies do not support their claims,Ē said Dr. Dan Gwartney, PhD, referring to S.W.A.T.S. and what they advertised. ďAny company (saying that) should have some measure of success of biological response and can even pay for their own university study. If IGF-1 is actually delivered via a sublingual spray, IGF-1 should appear in the bloodstream within minutes and can be directly measured with available serum assays (blood tests). Itís a simple delivery-response relationship.Ē
    Another aspect touched upon by Dr. Gwartney was the two methods in which the S.W.A.T.S. products are taken. ďWith the sublingual spray, the delivery to circulation is severely limited, rendering it almost ineffective,Ē he says. ďOral delivery (pill version) does not deliver the intact hormone. Small fractions that remain after digestion may have bioactive properties, but little would make it to the circulation.Ē
    As far as the actual substance in question, Dr. Gwartney likens the antler velvet, non-concentrated version of IGF-1 to another frequently used by bodybuilders. ďItís unknown if the animal version (of IGF-1) would even be effective in humans,Ē he says. ďJust like pig or cow insulin is not equally effective in humans as Ďhumaní insulin.Ē
    Others in the medical community share similar sentiments.
    ďFrom an evidence-based medical perspective, deer antler velvet extract has no proven effects," says Dr. Victor Prisk, MD. ďThe only clinical studies done with any rigor have (not shown otherwise). Itís more of a homeopathic medicine and using it for performance has the same effect as trying to get testosterone from a yam.Ē
    In Dr. Priskís opinion, this is just the latest chapter in athletes getting thrown into a media frenzy when connected to anything in the supplement industry, and he mentioned the Hines Ward Ė Platelet Rich Plasma treatment and the McGwire Ė Andro scenarios.
    ďThis guy (S.W.A.T.S.) is getting big attention over this,Ē he says. ďRay Lewis and the week of the Super Bowl? Heís going to sell even more of it now.Ē
    That seems like a given, but the results may not be there.
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    lol at deer antler spray. sounds like something off of a ben stiller movie lol.

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    lol...
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    lol

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    Even funnier is the sale of this shit probably went through the roof courtesy of every joker in America.

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    this is old news...i remember when it first came out...not worth it if you ask me
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    This was big like 5 years ago when it came out that it increased IGF.

    Try using IGF for real like Ray's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Pietaro View Post
    But what will happen is that thousands of inexperienced young kids who just began training will buy this stuff and expect it to work for them. "Hey, if NFL Pro Bowlers use it, then so should I." Exactly what the SWATS guys figured when leaking the Lewis connection to SI.
    Nothing will happen, the same thing with 99.9% of supplements on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Mike View Post
    this is old news...i remember when it first came out...not worth it if you ask me
    exactly

    they were selling this same stuff 20 years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Pietaro View Post
    But what will happen is that thousands of inexperienced young kids who just began training will buy this stuff and expect it to work for them. "Hey, if NFL Pro Bowlers use it, then so should I." Exactly what the SWATS guys figured when leaking the Lewis connection to SI.
    So what.......If they dont blow their money on this stuff they will just blow it all on all the other crap supplements these companies make these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by farrellzach View Post
    Nothing will happen, the same thing with 99.9% of supplements on the market.
    Accurate assessment of the 'supplement industry' in a nutshell.

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    The pro athletes are using the deer antlers along with hgh and igf. If the get popped for elevated IGF they will blame it on the deer antler. Simple as that.

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    No it don't work.... Some company offered him big bucks to put his name on it and he like most NFL superstars are for the most part broke 5 years after leavin the game and wanted to make some money before he retires. I'm sure someone offered him 2-3mil to put his name on it....

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    Me ? I just squat below parallel as "Dave415" told me to do. Makes everything grow, he says. All the ladies say I'm healthy.... Well, they will when I meet one.... Someday.

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    my opinion, who the fuck cares. the nfl are a bunch of dumb-witted officials, after hearing this i went through 5 different sources that only talks about this particular supplement and its nearly non effective yet there making one big deal out of it? thats real bold of the nfl..real bold

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