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Thread: THE 2007 MR. OLYMPIA: Did Victor Martinez beat Cutler?

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    Default THE 2007 MR. OLYMPIA: Did Victor Martinez beat Cutler?


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    that was biggest judging bullshit ever.

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    Victor AND Dexter beat Jay that year. He was 3rd at best
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastrep View Post
    A joke. Victor was ahead (forget about the scorecards) both Friday and Saturday. One of the biggest rigged events in the history of the sport.

    Now, you'll get those clowns that say "you have to knock out the champ", well sorry this isn't boxing. We have precise scoring with rounds.. best score wins, nothing else. Victory (by most people who saw the show) had earned the best scores.

    Just like a long distance jumper.. if you win by half an inch, you win.. you don't have to "knock out" anyone.
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    No. Jay won. Just checked. LOL

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    This story again? I hear it about 18 times per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Blackwell View Post
    This story again? I hear it about 18 times per year.
    I tried to email you ahead of time to "watch out for that 19th" but I've lost your info.

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    I think Flex Wheeler said it best...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j3TOh4b0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate View Post
    I tried to email you ahead of time to "watch out for that 19th" but I've lost your info.
    hahahaha that really made me LOL

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    Beating a dead horse tbh.Yes I think Victor was robbed big time in 07 and should have won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmikecox View Post
    Victor AND Dexter beat Jay that year. He was 3rd at best
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBLawyer View Post
    hahahaha that really made me LOL
    same here haha
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    Certainly from the pics I've seen, it appears that Victor beat him. Yet Peter was there, and if he says Jay won I'll take his word for it.

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    This contest seemed to be the first Mr. Olympia to discussed all year long on the internet boards. Seven years ago is a long time in internet land and there weren't as many people using the internet then as now but the bodybuilding world was discussing the big competitions much more by 2007 and this show generated a lot of discussion with most people agreeing that Victor should have beaten Jay. Previous to this contest, most discussions about who should have won were not debated on the internet as much because there weren't as many people using the internet or the forums. Back in the old days, when a Mr. Olympia was widely disagreed upon (like the 1980 or '81 Olympia's), people talked about it in the gyms or at contests but there wasn't a world wide web to discuss with other fans of the sport. Also, back in the day, the person who was Mr. Olympia usually remained Mr. Olympia until he decided to retire (Haney, Dorian). When Jay beat Ronnie in '06, it was the first time in 22 years that a reigning Mr. O was defeated onstage. I think in a previous era (before the wide spread use of the internet), Cutler would have went on to win no matter how close it seemed to be. However, after all the internet buzz following the 2007 Olympia (calling Jay "the Refrigerator"), when he came in off again the next year, he was defeated by Dexter after only 2 wins. The overwhelming tide of opinion against Jay winning in 2007 seemed to hurt him (in the judges and audience's eyes) in 2008.

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    It all evens out...Jay got the short end against Ronnie in 01 when he was ahead after prejudging.

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    Just drop it already.
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    Jay had water protocol issues, lack of cardio and carb issues which is why he started
    Using Hany and brought his best two packages IMO in 09 and 10
    From 05-07 especially

    That being said
    Victor has a mr Olympia upper body from the front in his prime 07-09 and from the back

    I can never get past victors quads in front shots plain and simple

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