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Thread: Lee Haney: "Too Many Gurus" The 8x Mr. Olympia Says Become Your Own Coach

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    I prepped for my previous show and the one in one week by myself, did what Lee said throughout the prep KEPT NOTES of what and how much I was eating. Made small changes every week and monitored the results. Saw what kinds of food worked well with me what didnt. Small changes and as simple of a diet as it could get. Found out a lot during the process. I tried my carb load method at least 6 times during the diet to get it perfect on the types of food that worked best and didnt give me a bloat and so on. Even cut my water 3 times to see when I should start reducing and how to eat after wards. Come game day I had everything planned and ready and just did what worked best for me without second guessing and no stress

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool90 View Post
    i think insulin is the biggest reason for "bloofy" muscle, but pros today also jump really early on gh and slin. they try to add a lot of muscle quick, while guys back then improved maybe 3-5 lbs at most per years you will hear how pros today pack on 10-20 lbs a year. the quality of that muscle cant be as good.
    i also think dorian recently mentioned how slin was the reason why his detailes got washed out in 1997.
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    Dorian and Kevin both said that slin messed up their typical condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Harris View Post
    Dorian and Kevin both said that slin messed up their typical condition.
    Pretty obvious to me that messing with blood sugar levels would have a drastic effect on their physique.
    I'm no drug expert, but I've always thought hardcore use of insulin and diuretics was crazy.
    I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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    Quote Originally Posted by king kong kurbis View Post
    In the 1988 Mr. O (they were all weighed that year) the most ripped guy was Berry Demey. What did he weigh? 227lbs! Okay he's what 6'0-6'1? Look at another bodybuilder who is competing now or recently who is the same height. Let's say Gunter or Toney Freeman. What did Gunter weigh? Around 300lbs! Toney weighs around 270-290lbs? even if he exaggerates he's at least 250lbs!! Strydom is 6'1 and he was 229lbs, shredded!! The guys back then have no where the density as guys now a days. Whether its the insulin or more GH, regardless, back then nobody weighed as much as the guys do now. Especially the shorter guys. That's why Lee Labrada got out in my opinion. He was under 200lbs, just about the same height as Dexter but weighed way less. Obviously Dex did what he had to do to keep up with the trend. I remember the one day I picked up a mag, it was early 2000's and was like wow!! He really got thick as fuck!!! Slin, GH, whatever he did it worked, but he stayed diced and shredded!!! And kept the small waist to boot!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard View Post
    Ok, that's the evolution of pro bodybuilders.

    BUT, how does that explain why most bikini babes and MPD guys think they need a guru to prep?
    Monkey see, monkey do! Bikini girls DONT need a prep coach! They carb load and pump up back stage too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmikecox View Post
    Monkey see, monkey do! Bikini girls DONT need a prep coach! They carb load and pump up back stage too.
    let them pump up those buns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool90 View Post
    let them pump up those buns.
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    When I read posts by Bikini girls talking about how they are going to deplete and load for 'peak week,' I just roll my eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Harris View Post
    When I read posts by Bikini girls talking about how they are going to deplete and load for 'peak week,' I just roll my eyes.
    this oooooomg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Harris View Post
    When I read posts by Bikini girls talking about how they are going to deplete and load for 'peak week,' I just roll my eyes.
    They also make more posts about dedication and hard work than all of the other divisions combined.

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    Insulin seems like such a dangerous game...I dont know why anyone would ever even think about using it. BBing pros aren't making millions of dollars. Good God, it's not worth it. Regular gear is barely worth it. Throw slin into the mix and dear God these guys are just killing themselves.

    They look like crap, but they aren't going to make it to 50, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles14r View Post
    They also make more posts about dedication and hard work than all of the other divisions combined.
    The least amount of dieting, work, training,

    However yields and requires the most amount of attention lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyJB View Post
    Insulin seems like such a dangerous game...I dont know why anyone would ever even think about using it. BBing pros aren't making millions of dollars. Good God, it's not worth it. Regular gear is barely worth it. Throw slin into the mix and dear God these guys are just killing themselves.

    They look like crap, but they aren't going to make it to 50, either.
    Totally agree.

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    I don't care that the guys today weigh 30/40lbs more half of that weight is the gut. Seeing a tight gut nowadays on the Olympia stage (something that should be very common you would think) is akin to having Vladimir Putin host the BET awards. You just don't see that shit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmikecox View Post
    Monkey see, monkey do! Bikini girls DONT need a prep coach! They carb load and pump up back stage too.
    And as for their jugs ... I mean the gallon sized water containers they carry around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter McGough View Post
    And as for their jugs ... I mean the gallon sized water containers they carry around.
    I prefer the DD gallon jugs......of water
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