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    Default "Natural" bodybuilding is a complete joke

    Anyone actually believe Kiyoshi Moody is natural? He competes in "drug tested" organizations. I think he is a 4x "natural Mr.O" winner.

    I don't even think they should have Natural shows because there will always be dirt bags like this guy who obviously take shit.

    And if your going to take stuff, why not just compete in an untested organization? Your genetics must be stellar to have to cheat in a tested organization.

    I remember seeing Jim Cordova in old MuscleTech ads claiming he was some "natural" superstar.

    Dude is clearly not natty.

    I don't even know why I'm posting this. Lol

    Is there a certain MG/WEEK they don't go over so in their head they stay "natty"? I just don't get it.

    Just ignore the GYNO on Kiyoshi. He's natty bro.

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    testosterone, T3, HGH, insulin, that's all you need and they are all natural substances..

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    NPCGhost, you are probably in that (bigger) group of people who dont believe that Ronnie or Kai turned pro natural right?
    Lance Armstrong is a winner.
    Chael Sonnen to be next president.

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    he looks close to being natty.. this is good enough
    A white Toney Freeman would have 10 Olympias. If I could look like anyone I'd want to look like a prime Toney Freeman

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    I am working for a Fed in Canada which is the first to use the same testing labs\procedures than at the Olympics. So far, the so-called top "natural" competitors of other feds are very few to have come compete in our show. I think that is not a coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guruhonza View Post
    NPCGhost, you are probably in that (bigger) group of people who dont believe that Ronnie or Kai turned pro natural right?
    Eh. I think if anyone turned pro natural, it was Ronnie.

    His genetics were that good. He could of been the best powerlifter in the world if that is what he set his mind to.

    Truly 1 in a billion genetics.

    No, I don't think Kai turned pro natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINic View Post
    I am working for a Fed in Canada which is the first to use the same testing labs\procedures than at the Olympics. So far, the so-called top "natural" competitors of other feds are very few to have come compete in our show. I think that is not a coincidence.
    I believe it. I think it's funny when people try to claim natty when they are clearly not.

    I don't give a fuck if you take drugs. I'm not anti doping by any means. But dont lie about it or compete in tested orgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPCghost View Post
    Eh. I think if anyone turned pro natural, it was Ronnie.

    His genetics were that good. He could of been the best powerlifter in the world if that is what he set his mind to.

    Truly 1 in a billion genetics.

    No, I don't think Kai turned pro natural.
    No way... for either...

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    This guy is a natural pro and I believe it
    aaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Neva View Post
    This guy is a natural pro and I believe it
    aaa
    swimmers are bigger...

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    Watched the video and he's not bad. Just commented after looking at calves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Neva View Post
    This guy is a natural pro and I believe it
    aaa
    Ya I agree. I think that look is attainable natural. IF he is using anything, it's VERY little. Maybe just an oral the last few weeks of prep. But I would believe he is natty.

    He looks good. But small.

    I can't describe the look of AAS users, but he doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPCghost View Post
    Ya I agree. I think that look is attainable natural. IF he is using anything, it's VERY little. Maybe just an oral the last few weeks of prep. But I would believe he is natty.

    He looks good. But small.

    I can't describe the look of AAS users, but he doesn't have it.
    I was never anything great in bodybuilding nor am I some genetic wonder LOL.
    In 1994, I won the first, last and only drug tested NPC show held in the state of La.
    It was the NPC Ironman natural held Aug '94, at the Centroplex in Baton Rouge
    After winning a couple gyms bros actually said to me ; " Wow, you really don't juice !"
    To be honest, I had used some cycles from 1983- 1988 and then quit.

    The best compliment I ever got was from people who assumed I was juiced when I competed in the 1990's.
    I rarely made my natural status a big deal and was pretty low key about it.
    Drugs will never make a champion and I embraced that fact long ago.

    I've worked out in the same gyms as guys who were juiced to the gills.
    Some of them sucked as bodybuilders or power lifters regardless of what they took.
    They were always looking for some gimmick drug or magic potion. They were pathetic.

    I will agree that the vast majority of drug tested shows are a joke.
    Most of the so called testing is near useless and not worth doing.
    Plus , too many "nattys" have this holier then thou attitude.

    My one and only concern with steroid use is LEGAL issues.
    I think personal steroid use should be legal, but, I don't make or enforce the laws.
    Ya know, it's tough to openly defend something when it's illegal to use.
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    Does this guy have "AAS users look" ?










    Lance Armstrong is a winner.
    Chael Sonnen to be next president.

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    The term Natty bothers me more than dudes lying about being Natural!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guruhonza View Post
    Does this guy have "AAS users look" ?










    Yes.

    No way in hell is Doug Miller natural.

    He does have one awesome physique tho.

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    Not sure about any of these guys, but I'm absolutely sure WNBF Pro Stu Yellin is completely natural.

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