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    Default An Open Letter to Arnold Schwarzenegger by Steve Reeves


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    The freak fans would never accept these standards in the men's open class.

    "PROPORTION & SYMMETRY ARE THE STANDARDS

    Height – Optimal Weight

    5'5" – 160 lbs.
    5'6" – 165 lbs
    5'7" – 170 lbs
    5'8" – 175 lbs.
    5'9" – 180 lbs
    5'10" – 185 lbs
    5'11" – 190 lbs
    6' – 200 lbs
    6'1" – 210 lbs
    6'2" – 220 lbs
    6'3" – 230 lbs
    6'4" – 240 lbs
    6'5" – 250 lbs"

    "The above figures are calculated with a medium-boned person in mind. If you have heavy bones, you can add 10 pounds to the calculations and if you have light bones, you subtract 10 pounds. These are the figures that I have arrived at after studying the physiques of many champions in many sports".



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    How many competitors standing on the Olympia stage would align with this?

    Proportion Chart

    Muscle to bone ratios:
    Arm = 252% of wrist
    Calf = 192% of ankle
    Neck = 79% of head
    Chest= 148% of pelvis
    Waist= 86% of pelvis
    Thigh = 175% of knee

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    Taking into account for height, these type measurements are what most people should strive for.
    This is related to the Proportion Chart in the above post.

    Steve Reeves’ Measurements:

    Height 6'1

    Weight 212 lbs.


    Arms: 18.5"
    Calves: 18.5"
    Neck: 18.5'
    Thighs: 27"
    Chest: 54"
    Waist: 30'




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    This is a great post dude !!!

    I remember reading this letter 17 years ago !

    I truly appreciate you sharing this !!!

    The thing is it will fall on deaf ears !!!

    its not that Reeves letter to Arnold isn’t true !!!


    It’s the fact that 17 years later, nothing changed !!!!


    How come ? What happened ???

    The world of bodybuilding is like any other society, it’s becomes a business ; commerce rules the village ; capital and investment control the behaviors !!!

    We read the letter 17 years ago !!!

    Unfortunately , credibility and the integrity of one or two legends won’t change human nature !!!


    Everyone understands the letter and most people probably agree with it !!!

    But it’s like the movie Jerry McGuire, it will only change a few individuals !!!

    The majority would rather relish in the moment and probably look at Arnold and Reeves and say -

    “ Hey, they had their time , they enjoyed the fruits of their labors ; now we will too !”


    The organization and business of professional bodybuilding is now a conglomerate!!!!


    This is why it won’t change !!!

    Thanks for sharing this post !!!!

    peace out

    Bantam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daibhí O'Buadain View Post
    The freak fans would never accept these standards in the men's open class.

    "PROPORTION & SYMMETRY ARE THE STANDARDS

    Height – Optimal Weight

    5'5" – 160 lbs.
    5'6" – 165 lbs
    5'7" – 170 lbs
    5'8" – 175 lbs.
    5'9" – 180 lbs
    5'10" – 185 lbs
    5'11" – 190 lbs
    6' – 200 lbs
    6'1" – 210 lbs
    6'2" – 220 lbs
    6'3" – 230 lbs
    6'4" – 240 lbs
    6'5" – 250 lbs"

    "The above figures are calculated with a medium-boned person in mind. If you have heavy bones, you can add 10 pounds to the calculations and if you have light bones, you subtract 10 pounds. These are the figures that I have arrived at after studying the physiques of many champions in many sports".


    Hell I could compete with those standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpig View Post
    Hell I could compete with those standards.
    It has to be looked at based on all the standards.

    "PROPORTION & SYMMETRY ARE THE STANDARDS"

    This height and weight:

    Height – Optimal Weight

    5'5" – 160 lbs.
    5'6" – 165 lbs
    5'7" – 170 lbs
    5'8" – 175 lbs.
    5'9" – 180 lbs
    5'10" – 185 lbs
    5'11" – 190 lbs
    6' – 200 lbs
    6'1" – 210 lbs
    6'2" – 220 lbs
    6'3" – 230 lbs
    6'4" – 240 lbs
    6'5" – 250 lbs


    Combined with symmetry based on 'golden standards muscle to bone ratios'.

    "However, the bodyweight-to-height ratio would be the sole criteria for adjudication of a physique. Since we also possess a bone structure that is in most cases in proportion to our height, I have further developed a method of prescribing the optimal proportions for each individual based on height and bone size that will result in perfect symmetry".


    Proportion Chart

    Muscle to bone ratios:

    Arm = 252% of wrist
    Calf = 192% of ankle
    Neck = 79% of head
    Chest= 148% of pelvis
    Waist= 86% of pelvis
    Thigh = 175% of knee






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    And he sent this in what? The 90's...

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    IMO, if Reeves suggestions were implemented, there would be a mass market audience for bodybuilding again.
    Like there was when ABC Wide World of Sports used to broadcast bodybuilding competitions.

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    If this, or something close to it was the standard, it would have extended my competitive career it least 10 years.

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    Sorry bro !!

    that sucks man !!!!

    i would’ve not quit after I was a teenager

    I competed in the 80’s as a teen, great times

    but I knew it was just too much when it came to the open men’s

    Man, that would be great if these were the standards !!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rep View Post
    If this, or something close to it was the standard, it would have extended my competitive career it least 10 years.

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    Here we go again...you can't "contain" a classic look by sticking to a daym chart. While I generally support the "classic physique" division and the guys competing in it...does anyone here dispute that the most CLASSIC physique we see on an IFBB stage these days is the one of Big Cedric McMillan...who is 270+lbs on stage? Or a Brandon Curry who is what 240+lbs? So enough with the daym chart limits...classic is about GENETICS and lines and how you build your physique from that point forward.
    "I'd rather be dead than average" - Mike Maddog Bell

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    I really wish that people would pay more attention to threads like this one rather than the industry gossip and jerk off Genova type threads.
    Threads like this one is what bodybuilding is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daibhí O'Buadain View Post
    I really wish that people would pay more attention to threads like this one rather than the industry gossip and jerk off Genova type threads.
    Threads like this one is what bodybuilding is all about.
    Unfortunately, most people are not interested in the sport and if in gossip of youtubers and other characters in the industry.
    «Humanity has been led by failures.»

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beti ona View Post
    Unfortunately, most people are not interested in the sport and if in gossip of youtubers and other characters in the industry.
    Good point.
    Prior to the rise of social media there was more interest in looking at bodybuilding in a serious way than there is now.

    ABC Wide World of Sports used to broadcast bodybuilding comps.
    As well ESPN had shows dedicated to bodybuilding.

    Now it's all about 'characters' and gossiping on social media.

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    I'm not convinced Reeves didn't use some form of AAS. Go here: http://oldforum.ironageonline.us

    use log in RPS123 and PW LarryScott11 then in the search box type Reeves steroids. lots of varied opinions.
    Last edited by Bob S; October 19th, 2017 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob S View Post
    I'm not convinced Reeves didn't use some form of AAS. Go here: http://oldforum.ironageonline.us

    use log in RPS123 and PW LarryScott11 then in the search box type Reeves steroids. lots of varied opinions.

    I have read those theories.
    However, Reeves had superior skeletal structure due to his genetics.
    His clavicle width hip ratios and muscle belly lengths/insertions gave him that impressive v taper and 'look'.

    His genetics provided something that no amount of AAS can provide.



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