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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    100%. It was something I noticed one day squatting down in the kitchen grabbing something in shorts while waiting for water to boil of all things

    I find that when you look at us all as individuals, that while alot of people can do any movement the standard set way, alot if not most need to tweak the movements in a way that is effective for them. Its like deadlifts, for years for the floor version I could do not problem, now if I do them I feel it more by either using a trap bar or having the bar elevated a notch or 3 off the floor. I made a comment on getbig last week when referring to a couple of pros with shit calves, in that the way they are doing them like other parts or other people are part of the problem. Someone called the gentics card and referenced how branch does partial form calf raises and has huge calves. True branch has an awesome physique by doing baliitic moves for most of his body but his arms as an example probably would have been improved had he trained those in a different style. Johnny Jackson had a tremendous squats and deadlist but they did not translate well doing legs like he did everything else. My calves became better when I sstarted training them differently in how I do the movement. My shitty arms improved when I did the same moves but different angles. My glutes are starting to come around despite years of deadlifts and full squats, because I do some glute machine or various hypers a few times a week and not with a lot of weight but with feel. My chest grows from anything but the quality is improving by doing alot more declines and other shit
    One of the best physiques I competed with was a guy named Jackson Pinckney, who recently passed away.
    http://www.wisemanfuneralhome.com/no...ckson-Pinckney

    He often "tweeked" various lifting movements to better feel the muscle working.
    He called these his "freaky deeky lifts".

    Far better to THINK and do things that are BETTER for you, then copy cat and get little.
    I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daibhí O'Buadain View Post
    Great post.
    Years ago when I first started bodybuilding, I went by the book as to what people wrote.
    Do it this way ect.

    As I progressed I learned to modify how I do lifts, change up angles ect. based on the feel of an exercise and how my body reacts to it.
    I discovered that changing an exercise form in a way that I can feel changes the intensity/tension on a target muscle, can target my muscles in a way that is more effective for me than going 'by the book'.
    Bingo!

    I even took this one step farther and shaped my BB goals to match my desires.
    For me , competing at the state/regional level gave me all the competition I needed.
    I saw no sense in pay big $$ to go to the nationals, end up 19th out of 33 and not even pose in the finals
    I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard View Post
    Bingo!

    I even took this one step farther and shaped my BB goals to match my desires.
    For me , competing at the state/regional level gave me all the competition I needed.
    I saw no sense in pay big $$ to go to the nationals, end up 19th out of 33 and not even pose in the finals
    Good post.
    Common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daibhí O'Buadain View Post
    Great post.
    Years ago when I first started bodybuilding, I went by the book as to what people wrote.
    Do it this way ect.

    As I progressed I learned to modify how I do lifts, change up angles ect. based on the feel of an exercise and how my body reacts to it.
    I discovered that changing an exercise form in a way that I can feel changes the intensity/tension on a target muscle, can target my muscles in a way that is more effective for me than going 'by the book'.
    back in the 80's my pecs(and delts) would get hit hard as hell when we had more than one kind of incline barbell bench. I used the one with the close stirppus that had a 40-45 degree angle and I was able to lower to my neck like that with 225 for 8-10 reps sets. Ever since then the standard ones with all the adjustments hurts unless I use a swiss bar. Funny thing is dumbell or smith inclines I only feel either higher inclne(45 degrees) or low(like 20-25 percent)

    instead of alternate dumbell curls I face the functional trainer with the cables slightly elevated to knee level, stand back and use the 2 pulleys instead. And my arms are so bad I laugh when Ron talks about his arms because I would love to have his arms lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard View Post
    One of the best physiques I competed with was a guy named Jackson Pinckney, who recently passed away.
    http://www.wisemanfuneralhome.com/no...ckson-Pinckney

    He often "tweeked" various lifting movements to better feel the muscle working.
    He called these his "freaky deeky lifts".

    Far better to THINK and do things that are BETTER for you, then copy cat and get little.
    Yep.
    On some exercises I do contraction pauses mid ROM because I can feel the intensity in ways that makes the exercise more effective.

    Years ago I blew out a rotator cuff and had to adjust volume, load and exercises for shoulders.
    While rehabbing the injury I discovered through experimentation how to use a pair of light weight dumbbells in a way that causes intense tension on my upper chest, front and lateral delts in ways that a overhead lift, incline dumbbell flys or side lateral raise never did.
    It really improved the way that my shoulders looked.

    I call that exercise 'O'Buadains'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daibhí O'Buadain View Post
    Yep.
    On some exercises I do contraction pauses mid ROM because I can feel the intensity in ways that makes the exercise more effective.

    Years ago I blew out a rotator cuff and had to adjust volume, load and exercises for shoulders.
    While rehabbing the injury I discovered through experimentation how to use a pair of light weight dumbbells in a way that causes intense tension on my upper chest, front and lateral delts in ways that a overhead lift, incline dumbbell flys or side lateral raise never did.
    It really improved the way that my shoulders looked.

    I call that exercise 'O'Buadains'

    best thing I ever did recently for shoulders as I mentioned in the Goon thread is both warming up my upper body with a light band and doing my rotator cuff moves lightly each day with the same band.

    I am really amazed and embarassed I did not discover this sooner, but I was following what everyone else did

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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    best thing I ever did recently for shoulders as I mentioned in the Goon thread is both warming up my upper body with a light band and doing my rotator cuff moves lightly each day with the same band.

    I am really amazed and embarassed I did not discover this sooner, but I was following what everyone else did
    Better late then never and just think of all the great workouts yet to come!

    Ok, I've seriously decided to return to a modified version of the ol' Mentzer Heavy Duty.
    In brief, training 90 min , 5-6 days a week as a 60 yr old natural is leaving me tired and dreading workouts.

    I'm going to do the alternating 3 day week Push ( chest, tris , legs) and Pull ( basck , bi, delts , abs) .
    1. Reps will done slow and smooth ( 2 sec up, 3 sec down) .
    2. I'll use more machines , DB's and use warm up sets as needed.
    3. After warm ups, 1 set of 10-15 reps upper body , 15-20 reps lower body and abs.
    4. I'll use a modified pre-exhaust on some body parts , like chest.
    I'll do cable flys before I do presses but not in super set fashion.

    Diet - will be very basic, low cal, low fat and nothing fancy or guru based.
    Cardio will follow lifting and be 30-40 min on stair climber or fast incline treadmill walk.

    That's it. Off I go.
    I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard View Post
    Better late then never and just think of all the great workouts yet to come!

    Ok, I've seriously decided to return to a modified version of the ol' Mentzer Heavy Duty.
    In brief, training 90 min , 5-6 days a week as a 60 yr old natural is leaving me tired and dreading workouts.

    I'm going to do the alternating 3 day week Push ( chest, tris , legs) and Pull ( basck , bi, delts , abs) .
    1. Reps will done slow and smooth ( 2 sec up, 3 sec down) .
    2. I'll use more machines , DB's and use warm up sets as needed.
    3. After warm ups, 1 set of 10-15 reps upper body , 15-20 reps lower body and abs.
    4. I'll use a modified pre-exhaust on some body parts , like chest.
    I'll do cable flys before I do presses but not in super set fashion.

    Diet - will be very basic, low cal, low fat and nothing fancy or guru based.
    Cardio will follow lifting and be 30-40 min on stair climber or fast incline treadmill walk.

    That's it. Off I go.
    good shit. Only thing I want to point out is the whole thing about pre-exhaust being in the order of isolation and then compound kinda sucks for us old folks. I feel the first move or second can be iso or compound but with the first you work more on higher cleaner reps going up in weight and then the second or third move is where you add more intensity. basically you should try varying that workout to workout, because although the whole concept behind pre-exhaust is isolating the muscle to failre then hitting a compound move so your other bodyparts bring it to failer it does not translate well for us older guys who need to be warmped up completly before rocking the boat. when I post my workout sets and reps it may seem like alot of volume but really those first 2-4 sets are sub failure preps done smoothly while the last 1-2 sets have more explosiveness, rest pause, body english if neccessary

    example for a guy like you doing quads once your body is warmped up you would start light doing 3-6 light to moderate pyramid sets of 10-20 sub failure sets of xyz quad exercise and the last set or 2 is a challenging weight(not maximal, challenging) weight for the rep range you are working, nothing crazy. The next exercise is where you work up to that max set you talk about.

    Like if I do 45 degree barbell rows first after I warmup my body with bands(fuck the cardio for 10 minutes shit, nothing to do with weight training) I would do 2 sets of an easy 10-15 just with the bar to get into the movement, then I would start with 65 lbs then add 20-30lbs per set and finish off with 135 to 155 for a hard set of 15-20. If I was doing the same movement later in the workout for heavy low reps I would do the bar for a couple of reps to get in the groove, throw on the eq of 115 and add 20-30lbs for sets of 6-8 to end at 185-205 for a hard 6-8.

    Not saying the 1 sets shit is valid, just saying if you are going to approach this as a 59 year old you might want to work up to that 1 max set and think of pre-exhuast as a first movement(iso or compound) lighter and easier and the second move(post exhaust) as either an iso or compound where you work up to an all out sets of 10-15

    I think the biggest mistake I have made the last decade is training to absolute failure rather than to either positive or just before. Mentzer and Jones were smart as fuck to be sure, but it is kinda ironic that neither could be bothered to do or find the time to do their brief intense workouts the last 20 years of their lives while guys like Ferrigno and Bill pearl were both guys who talked about leaving a bit in the tank and are still training at ages 66 and 88 respectively

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daibhí O'Buadain View Post
    Yep.
    On some exercises I do contraction pauses mid ROM because I can feel the intensity in ways that makes the exercise more effective.

    Years ago I blew out a rotator cuff and had to adjust volume, load and exercises for shoulders.
    While rehabbing the injury I discovered through experimentation how to use a pair of light weight dumbbells in a way that causes intense tension on my upper chest, front and lateral delts in ways that a overhead lift, incline dumbbell flys or side lateral raise never did.
    It really improved the way that my shoulders looked.

    I call that exercise 'O'Buadains'
    if you sit and mimic a front lateral raise(especially thumbs up) you can feel your pecs contract, specially where the delts and upper pecs tie in

    I think that is where alot of guys arguing miss the point. Example so what if your front delts come into play with incline presses and dumbell curls, the human body is upposed to work in unison. Alot of guys who are especially drug free like to say they don't do any front delt work because they get all they need from presses and incline work, and I say bullshit because 99% have no front delt tie ins. That shit only translates to people on gear who for the most part get capped delts from presses and rows lol. When I do direct front delt work if I raise my both arms together and look in the mirror there is a huge difference in both the upper pecs and delts overall. when I did some gear in the past(especially winstrol for some rason) my delts capped out no matter what

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    Whatever way you want to skin a cat is fine. Plenty ways work. However, some aspect of progressive overload and logging always helps things along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeUK View Post
    Whatever way you want to skin a cat is fine. Plenty ways work. However, some aspect of progressive overload and logging always helps things along.
    Myself I am doing progressive overload with heavier weights(for me currently, still building back my overall strength) but more in the middle and/or end of a bodypart. A good example is years ago when I could squat 3-4 plates a side for reps. when I started with squats working up heavy I would always end up on the low side of the spectrum where 275-315 range was done but sucked as I would lose reps/forms etc. When I did them heavy after doing some kind of hamstring work, followed by either sets of 2-3 exercises of either leg presses and/or hacks and or extensions in any variation/angle my squats worked out well in the lower range(under 10 reps).

    the only difference is my progressive overload does not depend on numbers alone anymore. 2 weeks ago I added 50lbs chains to each side on my last set of squats. It created a ton of tension from the midpoint to the top and has a constant pulling downward effect but how much is the actual weight?

    all that aside you are one strong mofo for your age group and I hope to be a fraction of what you are as you are one of the guys who inspires me to love this shit again. and you look pretty good for an old guy

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    motivation video for the day
    Last edited by NelsonMuntz; March 31st, 2018 at 10:18 PM.

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    Here is a good way to finish your upper pecs

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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    motivation video for the day
    interesting


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    Ok it’s Easter
    Breakfast

    - hot cross buns with butter
    - chocolate Easter egg
    - coffee
    - 2 scoops of whey

    set off for gym in 15, so about to take preworkout + 5g creatine

    intra will be 30g cyclic dextrin 30g pepto pro and another 5g creatine

    Back today. Always depends on equipment available. But plan is:

    1. Pulley pullovers 2 x 20-25 (Luke got me into this for activation)
    2. Dead stop Smith Bent Over Rows - work up to 3 plates a side and attempt to beat my pb of 19, followed by rest pause reps till I reach 30
    3. Chins (lats pre exhausted from rows) 2 x max
    4. Machine rows 2 sec pause each rep 6 x 6 muscle round
    5. Hyper extensions 3 x 10-15 weighted

    6. Any ab exercise I fancy 3 x 25+

    ————-

    Then it’s home, eat, take dog for a walk then do some artwork (working on something to say thank you to someone)

    Have a cool Easter Sunday folks
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    Ok did the workout. Empty gym so tried filming set and a few seconds of randomness. I wouldn't give myself pb even though I got 20 with 3 a side. Last couple of reps were so so. Every other rep touched my belt at top. Yes, I have short arms. Weight 230.
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    you are pretty insanely strong for your age group on some of these moves. Do you have moves that you can no longer go heavy on or are you pretty much able to do most everything with any or too much restriction?

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