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    Nice to hear Milos accurately identify Bonac as the deserving winner. Aesthetics has to count for something in this 'sport.'

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    Milos needs to take another look at the scorecard before he says there was a mistake. Lukas still would have beaten Hide even if the posing round were not scored. I do agree that it was kind of a break from protocol to count the posing for more than the physique itself, but either way it didn't change the placings. It was unprofessional of him to claim that the IFBB made a mistake because his athlete didn't place as well as he wanted to. I was impressed by Hide too but if we take into account that shows are won from the back, it's no mystery why the judges made the decision they made.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Julienne_Salad View Post
    Nice to hear Milos accurately identify Bonac as the deserving winner. Aesthetics has to count for something in this 'sport.'
    aesthetics? he is 5'5 with lats that connect direct into his waiste.. he has a midgets frame and has done everything possible to maximize it..
    he would have my support but he has a Napolean complex and cries way too much

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    Good wrap up. Always like listening to Milos. I’d have put Hide higher, but the posing round, although weird, didn’t alter the placing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeUK View Post
    Good wrap up. Always like listening to Milos. I’d have put Hide higher, but the posing round, although weird, didn’t alter the placing.

    Yep.

    As Ive stated many times...scoring the posing round is ridiculous and is wide open to interpretation. Scoring physiques themselves is based completely on opinion as it is. This is why we took it out years ago.

    I can make any case for any of the top guys...

    Assuming the "posing" round scoring criteria is made up of a combination of Physique/ and ability to present the physique...then theres no way Hide would've scored higher than Lukas.

    Assuming the "posing" round is scored entirely on the routine itself, it would completely decimate the final standings as arguably, the guy with the worst physique could have the best routine and end up beating a whole bunch of guys that had clearly superior physiques

    At the end of the day..its a MUSCLE contest, not a routine contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chick View Post
    Yep.

    As Ive stated many times...scoring the posing round is ridiculous and is wide open to interpretation. Scoring physiques themselves is based completely on opinion as it is. This is why we took it out years ago.

    I can make any case for any of the top guys...

    Assuming the "posing" round scoring criteria is made up of a combination of Physique/ and ability to present the physique...then theres no way Hide would've scored higher than Lukas.

    Assuming the "posing" round is scored entirely on the routine itself, it would completely decimate the final standings as arguably, the guy with the worst physique could have the best routine and end up beating a whole bunch of guys that had clearly superior physiques

    At the end of the day..its a MUSCLE contest, not a routine contest.
    if it was judged properly then there would be no problem..properly meaning the point margin between routines wouldnt be as great as the pre judge or finals round..
    in the posing rouding you should be able to pick up 1-3 points on your opnent...the judgeing was acurate thou this contest thanks to Tony Daugherty a man of god and money along with Arnold pulling for Roelly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Edwards View Post
    if it was judged properly then there would be no problem..properly meaning the point margin between routines wouldnt be as great as the pre judge or finals round..
    in the posing rouding you should be able to pick up 1-3 points on your opnent...the judgeing was acurate thou this contest thanks to Tony Daugherty a man of god and money along with Arnold pulling for Roelly

    Tony had nothing to do with the judging...

    There is no judging it "properly", as I pointed out in the original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chick View Post
    Yep.

    As Ive stated many times...scoring the posing round is ridiculous and is wide open to interpretation. Scoring physiques themselves is based completely on opinion as it is. This is why we took it out years ago.

    I can make any case for any of the top guys...

    Assuming the "posing" round scoring criteria is made up of a combination of Physique/ and ability to present the physique...then theres no way Hide would've scored higher than Lukas.

    Assuming the "posing" round is scored entirely on the routine itself, it would completely decimate the final standings as arguably, the guy with the worst physique could have the best routine and end up beating a whole bunch of guys that had clearly superior physiques

    At the end of the day..its a MUSCLE contest, not a routine contest.
    In this case I’d judge Hide HIGHER than Lukas in the posing round because a)he looked better and b)he’s a better poser. I see the posing round as a means of displaying your PHYSIQUE in poses of your choice other than just the compulsories. If you have a fancy routine, but your physique still seems worse then you should be scored accordingly. The Lukas posing round seems a little odd, but thankfully it made no placing difference.

    speaking of posing, Kate Errington stormed it in the fitness
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeUK View Post
    In this case I’d judge Hide HIGHER than Lukas in the posing round because a)he looked better and b)he’s a better poser. I see the posing round as a means of displaying your PHYSIQUE in poses of your choice other than just the compulsories. If you have a fancy routine, but your physique still seems worse then you should be scored accordingly. The Lukas posing round seems a little odd, but thankfully it made no placing difference.

    speaking of posing, Kate Errington stormed it in the fitness
    yup..
    Sadly the judges do not agree with us.

    That is why I had a problem with fred biggie smalls winning the best poser award at the arnold ohio .
    fred had a routine that had very few poses in them.He did not make any shoots for more than a second.Not only did he not flex his muscles his phsqyue looked worse because he forgot to control the waist .
    It was awfull, yet he won best poser award...

    IT MAKES ZERO SENCE

    IFBB HEY GUYS STOP THIS ROUTINE SCORING ROUND ,,,Just have a best poser award and give they guy a pay check and a fancy glass award .
    And let the fans choose via vote who should win the award .Promote the voting on instagram live via the show is on.Fans will feel connected and vote and more attention would be on the classic arnold on social media .

    fred winning best poser award while gut out ,no shots being made, phsqyue regressing while he is doing the moonwalk ..
    When kinic puts you in a avatar and you still win best poser award, something is not working


    Also I enjoy lukas routines .He has that im a robot from serbia im gonna pose epic even though i have no rhythm in my body ,feel to him
    The ass roll is legendary, have you not noticed in every show the ass roll gets the most applause in the entire show .Also he chooses great music and all his shots are isync with the music .
    The problems you could have with his routine though is that he has no natural rhythm in his body .I do not think he is able to dance regular to music in the clubs without looking like a tool.
    So even though he moves to the music it does come off a little like a robot .Also his past hardcore gay sex porn photo shoots with cock in ass ,do make me at times feel uncomfortable .

    but the ass roll is fantastic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Harris View Post
    Serbians can't dance, I learn something new every day.
    Ron harris I am expert in eastern european culture .
    I used to play basketball proffesianally at age 17.I played for a serbian team foe 3 moths .

    my best friends growing up was from serbia ,albamia, poland, etch .I have been there many times .
    Croatia and bulgaria are fantastic places to party and enjoy good culture .

    Eastern europeans are the toughest guys in europa , bro, you can buy steroids on the street, yes , good guys, they also do mma for for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a.j View Post
    yup..
    Sadly the judges do not agree with us.

    That is why I had a problem with fred biggie smalls winning the best poser award at the arnold ohio .
    fred had a routine that had very few poses in them.He did not make any shoots for more than a second.Not only did he not flex his muscles his phsqyue looked worse because he forgot to control the waist .
    It was awfull, yet he won best poser award...

    IT MAKES ZERO SENCE

    IFBB HEY GUYS STOP THIS ROUTINE SCORING ROUND ,,,Just have a best poser award and give they guy a pay check and a fancy glass award .
    And let the fans choose via vote who should win the award .Promote the voting on instagram live via the show is on.Fans will feel connected and vote and more attention would be on the classic arnold on social media .

    fred winning best poser award while gut out ,no shots being made, phsqyue regressing while he is doing the moonwalk ..
    When kinic puts you in a avatar and you still win best poser award, something is not working


    Also I enjoy lukas routines .He has that im a robot from serbia im gonna pose epic even though i have no rhythm in my body ,feel to him
    The ass roll is legendary, have you not noticed in every show the ass roll gets the most applause in the entire show .Also he chooses great music and all his shots are isync with the music .
    The problems you could have with his routine though is that he has no natural rhythm in his body .I do not think he is able to dance regular to music in the clubs without looking like a tool.
    So even though he moves to the music it does come off a little like a robot .Also his past hardcore gay sex porn photo shoots with cock in ass ,do make me at times feel uncomfortable .

    but the ass roll is fantastic
    I’m not saying Lukas is a bad poser and he does have a he ass roll : ) However, his posing didn’t make make me think he was any better a bodybuilder than from what I saw in the compulsories.

    Biggie Smalls I never got. Or anyone that posed like that. Makkaway, Paris, Phil Hill, Berry DeMey and Labrada from old days and Zane Watson and Santi Aragon are cool up and coming posers. Then you have Rosie and sometimes Cedric

    Jamie the giant liked your commentary btw
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    This was great, more Milos.

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