Test tren cycle

[stiliftin]

Starting a late April cycle. Going for a tried and true 500 ml Test E and 300 ml of Tren ace for 12 weeks. will finish with 2 weeks of prop 3X a wk 100 ml before starting PCT in late August. Should I run more tren and less test?

[bad rad]

That's what I ran my for my Tren cycle and felt I should have stuck with 225 mg week. I started getting headaches and had to stop at week 7 of 10.

[stiliftin]

I have run 300 before no problem and had even thought of running 500 ml of tren and a maintanance dose of test at 250ml to avoid the complications of shutdown. I also have HCG to keep the boys plump on cycle too

[Frandeman]

12 weeks Tren e better

[Sandpig]

I prefer my tren higher than test.

I've been as high as 700 per week of tren.
Not a good feeling.

I settled at about 420 tren and 300 test

[Rjackd1]

Depending on your sensitivity to progesterone sides you may have some libido issues with a lower ratio of test to tren....but as long as you’re good there, i’d think 500/300 would be about perfect. I love a lower-dose cycle like that for a nice long 16-20 weeks. I don’t get sides at those levels and it has time to do its thing.

[bad rad]

Depending on your sensitivity to progesterone sides you may have some libido issues with a lower ratio of test to tren....but as long as you’re good there, i’d think 500/300 would be about perfect. I love a lower-dose cycle like that for a nice long 16-20 weeks. I don’t get sides at those levels and it has time to do its thing.

I tried higher Tren than Test and had awesome libido but no erections.

[stiliftin]

So that cycle worked just fine. I gained 22lbs and after PCT kept about 10 lean pounds. Big cut all summer down 25 lbs but look flat and shitty. I have just started again as I like to stay off as long as I am on. but this time I am just doing 500mg test en. I did kick it off with 3 weeks of d bol 25mg ed. So far I am up 10 lbs after 4 weeks and looking full.

[stiliftin]

Oh and my last cycle started early April and was unfortunately cut short to a 10 weeker due to injury. so I said "let the cut begin" in July and hated every minute. I planed a vaca for late July and wanted to be just coming off then as to look beasty on the beach peaking. instead I look small, flat and old. I am only supposed to be one of those things. Old.

[bad rad]

Oh and my last cycle started early April and was unfortunately cut short to a 10 weeker due to injury. so I said "let the cut begin" in July and hated every minute. I planed a vaca for late July and wanted to be just coming off then as to look beasty on the beach peaking. instead I look small, flat and old. I am only supposed to be one of those things. Old.

We aren't growing younger. I used to want to look good naked but now I just want to look good in a t-shirt.

[Rjackd1]

Well, you say "flat", and a lot of that could be diet-related. If you cut carbs drastically for your diet and your glycogen stores are low, yes, you'll look flat. Or if they're low and you're looking at yourself mid-workout or near the end when they're depleted, you'll look flat. I know you've been around for a long time bro and I don't mean to make it sound condescending AT ALL but sometimes we get so wrapped up in the supplementation side of things, we let the basics slip. If you're feeling flat/depleted during workouts, perhaps throw in some Karbolyn or something similar? Rapid glycogen load....makes all the difference for me personally as I tend to train in higher volume.

[stiliftin]

Not condescending at all man. I hear ya. Diet, not what but how much and when is an issue for me but my statement was basically that I would rather be full and possibly a little "doughy" than to cut till I am flat and tiny. I am in a quest for symmetry vs. size alone and am not competing either. So the onion skin 6% BF is not for me anymore as I never felt as good as I looked when I did and I am too old to do things that do not make me happy. I have added a pre and post maltodextrin from Now Sports ,Carbo Gain that has enabled better pumps and energy though.

[Rjackd1]

If you've got access to some decent EQ, perhaps add in 600-800mg weekly of that...it helps tremendously with nutrient partitioning and tends to lend that sinewy, "horse muscle" look that people dig so much...and if you do cut some carbs/calories, it'll help you stay fuller. Test, tren, EQ with the diet right....man oh man. Good times.

[bad rad]

I haven't ran Tren and EQ but I used to run a lot of EQ and always responded well.