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    Quote Originally Posted by joshbarnett View Post
    foreman rules-got news for ya..top 100 meter sprinters run much faster than that lol you need to get your facts straight. if i remember correctly they had Usain Bolt timed under 4.0s deion sander ran a sub 4.2 now thats fast! my frosh year was alstott's senior year-easiest way for people to know i have always been able to run but sugashane is correct that game speed is much different when add in athletic ability, quickness, later movement etc. one of my teammates was the 100m state champ in illinois and was a terrible football player.
    Yeah half of the db's in the NFL run 4.4 or 4.3's. Usain actually was clocked around like a 3.7 I believe which is just out of this fucking world. Were you as big as you are in you avi, cuz if so I would have hated to guard your big ass lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardlifts View Post
    Do you know Jason Isley?
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    diehardlifts-sorry bro, dont know him personally.

    gator20jcl-i weighed about 185, maybe 190 if i was lucky. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules View Post
    Again what is his training experiance and education?

    Joe Defranco

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    Joe is one of this countries most highly sought after performance enhancement specialists. Joe has trained over 500 high school and college athletes from various sports. This includes All-State and All-American performers in football, baseball, wrestling, basketball, track & field, lacrosse and hockey. 31 of Joe’s athletes have been drafted by the NFL. Joe has developed a reputation for achieving previously unheard of results with his athletes. He is considered one of the most highly respected trainers in the world. DeFrancosTraining.com


    That was just a quick find I took off of eliteFTS.com. He's one of the members of the Q & A Staff there, along with his own site. Elite Fitness Systems is one of the most highly regarded sites on the internet, even having links from several nationally accredited certification programs (NSCA, ACSM, ect). And they aren't about to risk their reputation on anyone who isn't extremely knowledgable in the field.

    Joe also has worked with Louie Simmons and based many of his ideas off of Westside, which of course Louie is very well known for, among his own powerlifting accomplishments.

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    Foreman rules. You're asking the wrong questions. Certifications in this country hold about as much weight as an I.O.U. The NSCA is nothing more than, if you have a degree, you pay them tons of money to get practice tests and receive a certification from them. As sugashane and others have mentioned, some of the better guys in the western world are not following such certificiation protocalls. Education obviously helps and is a great thing to have but i'll take a guy who has learned under great minds like Isurin, Bonderchuck, Yessis, Zatsiorsky, Abajiev, etc than a guy with degrees from an american college. I am american by the way.

    and to answer one of your questions about defranco, he left the Parisi Speed School to start his own facility years ago. That's a great place to be for speed work.

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    JoshBarrnet- Do you have the link about bolt running a 3.7 I find that really hard to beleive.

    Forman- I agree with JoshBarrnet, sub 4.4s is very doable. I was running 4.4 fortys in High school. Yet my hundred time was low 11's. Still a fast time but there were plenty of people faster out there. Doesn't mean they could even come close to keeping up with me on a football field. Once the pads go on everything changes. You also have people like Bolt for example... Skinny little fast guy. Yea you all know what I am talking about if you ever ran track. That guy that is blazing fast and it pisses you off cuz he is so small with zero muscle. Well Its because he is light as a feather, more that likely has tremedous flexabiliy. Put some pads on his small frame and between the loss of mobility and added weight he would slow down considerably. He would still have straight line speed but it would be greatly reduced.

    I beleive if you want you 40time to increase you need to lower your bodyfat to get your overall weight down. Then work on plyo's and flexibility, and lifts that target your entire posterior chain.

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    find a parisi speed school if there is one nearby you.

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    I DISAGREE TOO, THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TURN OFF THIS COMPUTER AND GO RUN. IT DONT MATTER WAT LIFT YOU DO IF YOU DONT RUN, BUT ALSO I WOULD SAY DO CLEAN, HYPER EXTENTIONS, STIFF LEG DEAD, AND OF COURSE SQUATS. MAKE SURE YOUR CALVES ARE EXPLOSIVE TOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshbarnett View Post
    foreman rules-got news for ya..top 100 meter sprinters run much faster than that lol you need to get your facts straight. if i remember correctly they had Usain Bolt timed under 4.0s LMAO deion sander ran a sub 4.2 ROFL now thats fast! my frosh year was alstott's senior year-easiest way for people to know i have always been able to run but sugashane is correct that game speed is much different when add in athletic ability, quickness, later movement etc. one of my teammates was the 100m state champ in illinois and was a terrible football player.
    Post facts not opinions or what the hype machine at some college spewed out.

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    YEA AND JERRY RICE RAN A 4.6 40 AT THE COMBINE. HE TURNED OUT TO BE A DECENT WR RIGHT?

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