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    I am 100% for the military members to pursue their passion of bodybuilding. The point of where it becomes a problem is where the person does not keep up with their branch's fitness tests. I am about 5' 10'' and 215 at the moment but I can still run a 3 mile in under 22 minutes, and still get the max points for pull ups and sit ups. I cannot say the same with all bodybuilders that I see but that is their problem. Their command can reprimand accordingly. Who says since a man/woman joins the service that they cant body build anymore? And that whole elliptical and stationary bike bullshit for the overall cardiovascular fitness is complete and utter horse shit. But hey thats why I joined the hardest branch of the service. I hold myself and my Marines to higher standards. Additionally, I know Marines who smoke that will absolutely crush ANYBODY that would step up to them in a run or anything otherwise. If they choose to smoke thats their decision. The entire military needs to hold itself to a higher standard. Sailors, Airmen, Soldiers and even some fucking Marines for God sakes who are fat as the Marshmallow Man go home and say they are in the military and people step back and laugh to themselves saying "What the fuck....?" I think it should be on the individual whether or not they can strike a balance between bodybuilding and being able to be fit. And the ones who are too ignorant and stubborn to chose between the two factors....fuck em.

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    Service members should definately be able to be bodybuilders. Hell, there is a female Gunnery Seargent where I'm stationed who competed in bodybuilding for sometime and did rather well, not entirely sure if she still competes. Jamie Troxel is her name, and she can do more pull ups then half of the male Marines here.

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    I am a sailor. NOT a foot soldier. My ship is only 500 ft. long. The navy brought the elliptical, and bike as a way to eliminate excuses from people who are limited duty. You marines are held to a different standard due to being soldiers. I am trying to hold onto as much mass as possible. I also partially tore my patella tendon in my knee and the navy told me they dont fix partial tears, so that bike is a good option for me. its ok. THE NAVY SEALS are the best. They have all the fitness and the brains too. I am going to stick to my ships and navy. No hoorah for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeJustice View Post
    Service members should definately be able to be bodybuilders. Hell, there is a female Gunnery Seargent where I'm stationed who competed in bodybuilding for sometime and did rather well, not entirely sure if she still competes. Jamie Troxel is her name, and she can do more pull ups then half of the male Marines here.

    I thought the name was familiar ... http://www.herbiceps.com/free/picthu...el/index01.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSwole33 View Post
    I am a sailor. NOT a foot soldier. My ship is only 500 ft. long. The navy brought the elliptical, and bike as a way to eliminate excuses from people who are limited duty. You marines are held to a different standard due to being soldiers. I am trying to hold onto as much mass as possible. I also partially tore my patella tendon in my knee and the navy told me they dont fix partial tears, so that bike is a good option for me. its ok. THE NAVY SEALS are the best. They have all the fitness and the brains too. I am going to stick to my ships and navy. No hoorah for me.
    Ok, Being on ship is another story, but it is not an excuse for injury, in the USMC, if your injured to the point that you cannot perform your regular duties, you get put on a medical board and seperated from the military, unless it is combat related. and for a shipman to say "SEALS ARE THE BEST" is like one of our admin paper pushing marines saying recon is the best. tell you the truth, I think delta or ODA is probably the best. seals in country are usually lazy and erogant. hey they worked hard and earned the title navy seal, but they definately aren't what one would expect, same with recon and the green hats.

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    I am 100% for the military members to pursue their passion of bodybuilding. The point of where it becomes a problem is where the person does not keep up with their branch's fitness tests. I am about 5' 10'' and 215 at the moment but I can still run a 3 mile in under 22 minutes, and still get the max points for pull ups and sit ups. I cannot say the same with all bodybuilders that I see but that is their problem. Their command can reprimand accordingly. Who says since a man/woman joins the service that they cant body build anymore? And that whole elliptical and stationary bike bullshit for the overall cardiovascular fitness is complete and utter horse shit. But hey thats why I joined the hardest branch of the service. I hold myself and my Marines to higher standards. Additionally, I know Marines who smoke that will absolutely crush ANYBODY that would step up to them in a run or anything otherwise. If they choose to smoke thats their decision. The entire military needs to hold itself to a higher standard. Sailors, Airmen, Soldiers and even some fucking Marines for God sakes who are fat as the Marshmallow Man go home and say they are in the military and people step back and laugh to themselves saying "What the fuck....?" I think it should be on the individual whether or not they can strike a balance between bodybuilding and being able to be fit. And the ones who are too ignorant and stubborn to chose between the two factors....fuck em.


    HELL YEA! I am an airman, and there is a SSgt in my shop who just failed his third pt test to deploy to the desert. He has been on CFIT or what ever the fuck it is called for the past six months that he has been in my shop. I do avionics, and I am the only one of the specialists that gives a damn about pt standards, and yet I get random testing because I actually give a shit. So this Ssgt not only could not deploy, but he dicked over another Ssgt that just got back because now he has to leave his family and head back over there. Now the Ssgt did not complain about having to back over there on such short notice, but I see special force instructors who look like the marshmellow man. And normally these fat asses come in with their uniforms looking like they are wadded up in the corners of their rooms. Have a little bit of fucking pride in yourself and your service. I am tired of them bringing our image down. But not only have I seen this as a huge problem in the AF but I have seen it in all of the branches. Whats even more appauling is that I am on the special operations base.

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    Well, it really doesnt matter. we all are here to keep the country safe. I was never injured to the point where I could not do my job. The navy medical staff never properly examined me. They try to tell you its a strain first, or tendinitis, and give you meds, or tell you to rest it. Then when you keep coming back for a year they give you an MRI, and tell you its ruptured. However, they never gave me proper care. So, I do my own research and take care of myself. I am in good shape, and pass my PRT with EXCELLENT scores.

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    haha... they love to make us run 5ks on cement all the time, so people were getting shin splints so bad that the bones were actually fractured. The docs just handed out 500 mg ib profen and gave a waiver. Its a joke. I got bit by a spider (not sure what kind but florida is full of the fun ones) and my hand swelled up, and turned purple. The only part that was white was a little puncture mark. So I waited in the er since it was like 11 at night and I finally saw the Capt, and she sat there for 20 minutes poking at it telling me she had no idea. So the only part that hurt was the white puncture mark. After about five minutes of me telling her that it hurt, and asking her to stop pushing on it if she has no idea whats wrong, she quit. Her prescription was an antibiotic and pain pills... I never took any of it, but all i wanted to know was if it was a poisonous spider. Or one of my friends messed up his acl, and when they went in for surgery they left the forceps inside of his knee... Scary stuff

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    military medicine is a joke. I had some kind of nerve damage or compression in my right pectoral and its obvious to me but the neurologist, who has done multiple MRI's and only one EMG, is like I dont know, maybe an isolated nerve. wow, Yeah the ER here at balboa hospital blows. I hurt my back doing deads, and waited 5 hours to get seen and get out of there. He just gave me tramadol, motrin, and flexeril. Didnt have a clue what was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC29 View Post
    I dont see any problems with it just as long as you make sure you can still pass the PFT
    This, this, 1000 times, this. What people hate about bodybuilding is the "lack of cardio endurance," which is also stated with, "I don't do cardio because it hurts my gains."

    Really, that depends on what you do, how you do it, and how you eat.

    I'm not just a woman, but a woman on birth control so that means extra estrogen in my system. Despite those two "negative" factors, I was still able to get a 1st Class PFT every time because I knew how to run and also lifted. Before I became disabled, I was training for competitive bodybuilding and running 5 times a week on a program an officer buddy of mine gave me. I'd be running 6 miles at a time some days, but still be hitting the gym. I also did yoga, which only helped my gains. I lost fat, gained muscle strength and size, and improved my run time.

    Believe me, running and bodybuilding aren't mutually exclusive.
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    I am SAR, I went to school at 185 pounds at 6'2 now im 228... and i swim a faster time on my quals. I would consider myself as a young BB and have been serious with BB in my life for 5yrs now.
    The only people i see this would run into some trouble with is spec forces, they need to be fast and quick... extremely sharp with there teamwork... but everyone else, why not get as big as possible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJTree View Post
    I dont like having my pics out there (I am a work in progress who needs much work and much progress) so i will probably take it down in a day or two. It just irritates me to have someone tell me that "THe chart says" that I'm a fatbody.
    Yeah i totally agree. It makes no sense. Some fatass can have no muscle and still make weight, but you could be carrying half the bodyfat he is and just cuz you have some muscle on you youre getting taped. Which the tape method is inaccurate anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuke View Post
    I served with Leo Ingram when I was at Pearl Harbor Shipyard. Not detracting from the man's dedication to either Bodybuilding or the Navy, but he had it rough every 6 months when it came time to do the Physical Readiness test. The man couldn't run. He barely made it in a passing time.

    With that in mind should service members be hardcore bodybuilders or does that level of dedication to the sport make us less fit for our duties and the requirements placed upon us by our jobs?

    I've seen Leo he actually guest posed for my comp out here. He's a big guy, but I don't think this applies to all military bodybuilders. Somehow I dont think Phillip Ricardo is having trouble passing a PFT

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    I think they should, but that they should taper their training to keep their duties in mind.

    Rather than muscle making him a bad runner, I'm thinking he probably just hasn't trained his running enough. We don't always get use cardiovascular fitness from weightlifting, depending on what we do. When we do unilateral lifts, or isolation moves, or give a lot of recovery time between sets, split different body part days, this alone doesn't always give us much stress to the lungs or heart. Probably if we focused on big bilateral compounds (squats, deadlifts, chinups) in combination with general cardio (running, elliptical, etc) and interesting endurance moves (hill sprints, prowler work, sled/tire dragging or car pushing) we could probably run pretty well.

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    Military personnel should train hard to maintain their physical abilities + production.
    Not sure they should think about being competitors though, until after serving the country.

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    If Cedric McMillan can pull it off and David Henry why can anyone else??

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