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Thread: Testosterone cycle design (first cycle and PCT updated)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawberry View Post
    this thread is a great place to start your research. just take the aromasin, keep the tamox in case gyno symptoms occur. do not start your cycle until you have all your ancillary drugs
    Thanks man, are there any legitimate sites to buy aromasin from? Or is this something I will have to track down at my gym? Ha ha

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    heavy since tren acetate on a mg for mg basis is stronger than testosterone, what is a typical dose for a first time tren acetate user? is there any more benefit to run tren ed than running it eod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notram218 View Post
    heavy since tren acetate on a mg for mg basis is stronger than testosterone, what is a typical dose for a first time tren acetate user? is there any more benefit to run tren ed than running it eod?
    My opinion:

    Rule #1: The more frequent the injections, the more stable your bloodlevels will be (this is better). However, eod IS sufficient for acetate and you'll be completely fine.
    Rule #2: Do not run Trenbolone alone (without Testosterone).

    I wouldn't go higher than 75 mg/eod and I'm doing 50 mg/eod for my first time with Trenbolone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notram218 View Post
    heavy since tren acetate on a mg for mg basis is stronger than testosterone, what is a typical dose for a first time tren acetate user? is there any more benefit to run tren ed than running it eod?
    I never saw much difference with ed but I always stack with test. Newbies can run 225mg Tren ace weekly.
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    awesome thread! im looking to start my first cycle in a couple of months or so am right now im just doing my research. just want to thank everyone for all the information they post on here its very helpful and i would hope more trust worthy then other websites.

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    Good info Heavy

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    heavy have you ever tried kigtropin? how did you like it?

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    How long after , prop + mast should some1 start P,C,T ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notram218 View Post
    heavy have you ever tried kigtropin? how did you like it?
    I use blue tops. I had labs and it was good to go so that's all I use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richieg6 View Post
    How long after , prop + mast should some1 start P,C,T ?
    3-4 days brother
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    hey heavy if you are blasting and cruising in 10week increments, then on the cruising part say 200mg test-e a week, do you still run an AI? are there any side effects of running an AI for long periods of time?

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    I was tooling around the website looking for answers reguarding a good starting cycle and it appears that I've found it. I will be 34 this month and I have been in desperate need of advice on how to get this thing started. I've been training for 20+ years and have never entertained the thought of steroids until about the last 8. Never having used anything before what would you believe to be the most affordable cycle to start with that would yield maximum gains. I sincerely appreciate any advise. THANKS!

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    600mg Testosterone Cypionate weekly for 8-10 weeks.
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    Thanks heavyiron for the great write-up!

    I plan on a doing my fist cycle of 600mg enanthate for 10 weeks and follow your recommendation for PCT (Aromasin, Clomid, etc.). My question regards TRT.

    Ive been on doctor prescribed TRT for 4 years, taking 100mg/week and have my levels checked twice a year. I believe the low test levels were due to sleep apnea which has been corrected for about 3 years and never got off TRT. I would like to know when you think would be good time to continue TRT after cycle? Should I start after HCG before beginning PCT? Or start after my last day of PCT?

    Thanks for any and all advice.

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    No PCT is needed if you are on TRT. Just resume TRT after the blast.
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    Heavyiron i got a newb queastion for you,

    1ml Testosterone Enanthate once a week for 12 weeks, how long should my off cycle be and what would be best for me to take during off cycle.

    NOTE: only doing the Test En, not stacking with anything else.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by red-eagle-77 View Post
    Heavyiron i got a newb queastion for you,

    1ml Testosterone Enanthate once a week for 12 weeks, how long should my off cycle be and what would be best for me to take during off cycle.

    NOTE: only doing the Test En, not stacking with anything else.

    Thanks
    1 ml TE a week would equate to 250 mg/week. This is a very low dosage and I don't think you will be pleased with the results.

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