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    Default Super-DMZ rx~Dimethazine

    Super-DMZ rx now contains Superdrol! Each cap contains 10mg Superdrol and 10mg Dimethazine!



    Dimethazine by heavyiron


    Super-DMZ rx, a brand name of Dimethazine is two steroid molecules bound together by a nitrogen atom. Upon ingestion, stomach acid separates the two steroid molecules that closely resemble methyldrostanolone (Superdrol) Therefore Super DMZ does not contain Superdrol but once broken down it is similar as far as I can tell.

    Dimethazine was a prescribed steroid at one time therefore we have human trials in which this steroid was used. This medication has been around since 1962 when it was presented in the literature. Early on it was sold under the Roxilon brand name. Dimethazine is basically an oral Masterone (drostanolone propionate). I am reading published reports that Dimethazine possesses an androgenic rating of 96 and an anabolic rating of 210. Furthermore it seems to possess little to no estrogenic or progestational activity. The reason I feel this is not identical to Superdrol is because Superdrol has a different androgenic/anabolic rating of 20/400 respectively. However Dimethazine is a strong steroid.

    Dimethazine is an oral c-17alpha alkylated steroid that is liver toxic to a degree. Note that in studies administering 20mg per day to patients for 45-95 days, dimethazine was shown to induce modest to moderate bilirubinemia (excess bilirubin in the blood, indicative of hepatic stress) in close to 50% of patients. Approximately 25% of the patients noticed substantial increases in serum transaminases. These results suggest this steroid has significant hepatoxicity and should therefore be limited to shorter durations of use.

    Super DMZ is a potent steroid that should illicit solid gains in lean body mass with little water or fat gain depending on diet. Most men can tolerate between 10-20 mg daily for 6-8 weeks however more adventuresome users may use up to 40mg daily for shorter durations like 3-4 weeks.

    Because of the liver toxicity of Dimethazine I strongly recommend using liver supporting supplements such as Liv 52 or milk thistle before and during administration of this steroid. Proper hydration is also recommended to lower stress on organs. Alcohol and other liver stressing medications like acetaminophen should be avoided during Dimethazine administration. Oral steroids often times negatively effect lipids therefore lipid supporting supplements should also be employed such as omega 3 fish oils, fiber and plant sterols. High blood pressure is another concern so that should be monitored regularly.

    Super-DMZ rx is currently available for purchase without a prescription. How long this steroid will be distributed is unknown.



    Chemical Name(s):
    17beta-hydroxy 2alpha,17alpha-dimethyl 5alpha-androstan 3-one azine

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    I found an old i-force article on the web today with some interesting claims about Dymethazine.

    About Dymethazine:

    In only 4 years since the Pro-Hormone ban of 2005 countless products have claimed to be as strong as or even stronger than the over the counter hormones once sold. After considerable time, energy, and research performed by i-Force's product formulation team, we are proud to announce the hormonal product everyone has been waiting for.

    Featuring unheard of anabolic and myotropic effects, Dymethazine was compared to Methyltestosterone, Oxymethalone, Androstanazole and Testosterone Propionate in their protein-anabolic activity. Dymethazine was shown to have the HIGHEST myotropic (muscle building) effects out of any of the previously named steroids (Methyl-Test, Anadrol, Winstrol, and Testosterone Propionate)! In addition to this, it also displayed an ability to induce a higher rate of Nitrogen retention than Methyl-Test.(1)

    In another study performed on Dymethazine, patients were administered Dymethazine for 45+ days. Liver values did not change for 50% of patients, while the other 50% noticed only modest to moderate increases in liver values(2). So, Dymethazine can increase liver values, however nowhere near the current methyl monsters on the market today. This means Dymethazine can be run for 4-6 weeks without the need of expensive liver support supplements.

    Hormonal products that give huge strength/weight gains are usually associated with watery or wet gains due to large amounts of aromatization resulting in high levels of estrogen in the body. Too much estrogen can cause severe bloating, fat gain, and even potential growth problems. Dymethazine features 0% ability to aromatize and expresses an extremely weak androgenic activity (3). This means Dymethazine will produce intense gain, has very little to no liver impact, and will cause absolutely no estrogen related side effects.

    Move beyond the pro-hormones of yesterday, and step into the future of Designer Steroids with Dymethazine. Consume 1-3 capsules, evenly spaced throughout the day. Do not use Dymethazine for longer than 6 weeks. Immediately begin PCT dosing protocol upon finishing Dymethazine. Wait at least 90 days before running Dymethazine again.

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    1. Biological activity of dimethazine in the protein-anabolic field. Matscher, R.; Lupo, C.; De, P. Ruggieri. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan, Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 988-90. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34623 AN 1963:34623 CAPLUS
    2. Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function. Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS
    3. A new steroid with protein anabolic activity: dimethazine. De Ruggieri, P.; Matscher, R.; Gandolfi, C.; Chiaramonti, D.; Lupo, C.; Pietra, E.; Cavalli, R. Ormonoterap. Richter, Milan, Archivio di Scienze Biologiche (Bologna) (1963), 47(1), 1-19. CODEN: ASBIAL ISSN: 0004-0169. Journal language unavailable. CAN 60:46973 AN 1964:46973 CAPLUS
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    Comparisons with methyltest, winny, anadrol and test prop showed better mytropic effect on the castrates with methylmasteron.

    Biological activity of dimethazine in the protein-anabolic field.

    Matscher, R.; Lupo, C.; De, P. Ruggieri. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan, Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 988-90. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34623 AN 1963:34623 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Dimethazine (I), 2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3'-azine, was compared to methyltestosterone, oxymethalone, androstanazole and testosterone propionate in its protein-anabolic activity. The tests were made on castrated rats with a single hypodermic injection of 250 , on young male and female rats with increasing daily oral doses from 100 to 1000 for 30 days, and on adult male rats with daily oral doses of 1000 for 25 days. It was shown that I did not interfere with the growth of young animals; that adult rats treated with I gained, on an av., 20 g. more in wt. than the controls; and that I had a greater myotropic effect on castrates than the other steroids, and induced a higher N retention than methyltestosterone in adult males.
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    Little to no progestenic/estrogenic activity...

    Biological determination of the secondary hormonal activities of dimethazine.

    Lupo, C.; Matscher, R.; Ruggieri, P. De. Lab. Ric. Ormonoter. Richter, Milan., Bollettino - Societa Italiana di Biologia Sperimentale (1962), 38 990-4. CODEN: BSIBAC ISSN: 0037-8771. Journal language unavailable. CAN 58:34624 AN 1963:34624 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Expts. with rats and rabbits showed that dimethazine, 2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3'-azine has, in contrast to its protein-anabolic properties, practically no estrogenic, progestational, and corticoid activity. Similarly, it has no effect on liver glycogen, and no antiinflammatory action on the anaphylactoid edema.
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    Here is an abstract where females took 20mg for 45+ days...and it appears that less than half had any liver issues.

    Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function.

    Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS

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    Twenty mg. of dimethazine, an anabolizing steroid, was administered daily for 45-95 days to 11 gynecological patients. More than 50% of the cases showed no change in the bilirubinemia, the others showed modest to moderate increases. The glutamic-oxalacetic and the glutamic-pyruvic transaminases of the serum increased greatly in 3 patients. The albumins concn. usually decreased in the course of the treatment, while the globulins concn. did not change.
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    So this designer steroid is strong yes, but does it work.

    We all know certain supplements work better then others regardless of how much of this or that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtyJ99 View Post
    So this designer steroid is strong yes, but does it work.

    We all know certain supplements work better then others regardless of how much of this or that.
    The abstract in post #3 is a homerun. I have spent a ton of time researching this and all the feedback and hard data shows it is a potent steroid for adding LBM. I don't think it will be around for very long under this marketing.
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    Looks pretty good.
    Stronger than the control AAS
    and then
    looks like the third study states that liver strain was modest to moderate. A FAR cry from SD

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    This seems to support published reports that Dimethazine possesses a lower androgenic rating which would mean less androgenic sides and more anabolic muscle building effects.

    A new steroid with protein anabolic activity: dimethazine.

    De Ruggieri, P.; Matscher, R.; Gandolfi, C.; Chiaramonti, D.; Lupo, C.; Pietra, E.; Cavalli, R. Ormonoterap. Richter, Milan, Archivio di Scienze Biologiche (Bologna) (1963), 47(1), 1-19. CODEN: ASBIAL ISSN: 0004-0169. Journal language unavailable. CAN 60:46973 AN 1964:46973 CAPLUS

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    Dimethazine (I) was evaluated for the following biol. activities: androgenic, N retaining, P retaining, and Ca retaining. The increase in uptake of -aminoisobutyric acid-1-14C and the increase in body wt. were also investigated. Data obtained, tabulated, and compared to those obtained with methyltestosterone established that I is a protein anabolic steroid with weak androgenic activity.
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    Supposed to take this with food? Or what do you recommend Heavy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtyJ99 View Post
    Supposed to take this with food? Or what do you recommend Heavy?
    I would take it with food.
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    Heavy, I'm having a hard time understanding 100% the different products out there. The Super-DMZ rx version by iron mag labs says that it is Superdrol Dimethazine and not just dimethazine. Is this iron mag product different from any of the others out there? Interested in running this with test e...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTT91 View Post
    Heavy, I'm having a hard time understanding 100% the different products out there. The Super-DMZ rx version by iron mag labs says that it is Superdrol Dimethazine and not just dimethazine. Is this iron mag product different from any of the others out there? Interested in running this with test e...
    Well, many clones will purposely conceal the actual ingredients and even modify the chemical nomenclature on the label in order to fly under the radar from the FDA. Basically it is a matter of time before these products will be pulled from the shelves since they are actual steroids. As far as comparing clones the only way to know for sure is independent lab testing. I do know that IronMagLabs has tested their powders so it is the real deal. I chose this brand for exactly this reason. Super-DMZ is Dimethazine.
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    Heavy, are u running it alone or with another compound (ie test)? How long are you running it for? Do you think that if someone were to use it alone they would retain most gains/strength? What kind of PCT should be used? Would Clomid be good?

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    I would recommend testosterone with any oral steroid including Dimethazine. I have plenty so I will decide how long as I go but 4 weeks is the minimum I would consider. I think this steroid will illicit good gains. Clomid is good for PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    The abstract in post #3 is a homerun. I have spent a ton of time researching this and all the feedback and hard data shows it is a potent steroid for adding LBM. I don't think it will be around for very long under this marketing.
    Which I what I have been saying all along....and when I made mention that methylmasteron was stronger than Anadrol for muscle fiber gowth... I was told (by the good doctor) I was "Full of shit"!

    Glad you pulled this study out. What I really want to know about Dzine compared to SD is how it affects cholesterol? If women can run 20mg/day for4 5 days with minimal liver isse, what is the drug's effect on cholesterol? Of course, there is no connection between the 2, but as I age, I find I worry a LOT more about cholsterol than anything else when it comes to oral AAS.

    If it turn out it isn't too bad on cholesterol (will probably have no such luck...lol) and we already know it's relatively mild on the liver....this steroid could be run like Dianbol used to be run....8-10 weeks cycle if wanted.

    I am guessing it takes about a 50% greater dosage to yield up the same mucle building effects as SD, in general. I ran Dimeth from I-Force for only a couple weeks about a year ago at 45 mg/day and it seemed about equal to 30 mg/day of SD....the physical effects seemed the same too, as far as strength, how I looked and felt.

    If it turns out this drug is not too damaging to cholesterol...which means it could be run for longer....and 45mg/day gives about the same gains as 30 mg/day of SD....this should tun out to be a superior choice to straight SD.

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