Hany Rambod strong words

[mayor of bodybuilding]

On the Ronline report Hany Rambod had strong words for the current state of contrast Guru's in bobuilding. He has alot if experience in this area. He said too many deaths in the sport and said gym ats are giving guys bad advice. Your thoughts?

[Beti ona]

It would be great if he gave advice on how he works with his guys in peak week, but I guess that would be revealing too many secrets. The truth is that Hany has been in the business for many years and I don't know of any of his clients with health problems.

[Big Beat]

Hany focued a lot on the training aspect, he trains his guys, not many gurus do. He is more than a script writer and his guys do the work in the gym.

[ahmad73]

the gyms are full of BRO science

[Howard]

the gyms are full of BRO science

This x 100 !

Hany R. may be right about the risks some trainers with various pros take in contest prep.

But c'mon, if we don't have any enforced rules against it, how do you prevent it?

To me , any rules dealing with athlete safety must be clear, easy to enforce and reasonable.
The idea is to avoid being a micro-manager and focus on preventing the worst violations.

For example, an effective traffic cop won't stop everyone going 5 mph over the speed limit.
BUT, they will stop most of those driving 100 mph, drunk , on the sidewalk LOL.

[Ron Harris]

There are more than a few 'prep coaches' who are really nothing more than guys who write up extreme PED protocols. They don't even care how their clients train, to them it's all about loading them up with drugs.

[Howard]

There are more than a few 'prep coaches' who are really nothing more than guys who write up extreme PED protocols. They don't even care how their clients train, to them it's all about loading them up with drugs.

I just watched an episode of the "Darker Side of Football" , on Vice network.
It was on the chronic use of narcotic level "pain killers" in the NFL for decades.
Some players were disciplined for casual pot use while painkiller narcotics are considered normal.

In the NFL the unwritten rule and culture has been, playing hurt and in pain IS expected.
UNLESS an injury prevents you from "moving", you better be on the field.

In bodybuilding, you're expected to take "whatever" is needed to look bigger and more ripped .
If you ban one type of drug, someone will find another that may be worse?

The strongest motivation to win will always include doing "whatever it takes".
I remember , Steve Mechalik (sp) said , " I was willing to eat grease out of crank case and pay $100 an oz , if that's what it took to win Mr America."
People think money is the main driver off the cliff, but the AAU Mr America came with a title and zero "0 " prize money $$.

As a fan of both the NFL and IFBB , I enjoy watching the games and contests and just hope the pros don't go too crazy with risky actions to win.

[Noel Fuller]

Most trainers live vicariously through the athletes and they judge their own value on wins and wins only, dangerous combo

[Howard]

Most trainers live vicariously through the athletes and they judge their own value on wins and wins only, dangerous combo

I don't doubt that's true. Plus , you have a lot of personal experience training contest prep clients

I would also assume that coaching a successful pro, would give that trainer higher status.
That would translate to more clients and being able to charge a higher fee.

Winning coaches in any sport are the ones in demand , regardless of their methods.
In competitive sports, the main currency is winning.

Success has a 1000 fathers while defeat is an orphan.

[Noel Fuller]

John F Kennedy

[Howard]

John F Kennedy

A man who knows his history

Paraphrased for gurus and prep trainers :

" Ask NOT what drugs your client could take . Ask how many drugs your client will take."

Or as the Mayor of BB says ;

" Praise the thong and pass the posing oil "