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If PED's Didn't Exist Would You Bodybuild?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Noel Fuller View Post
    gear puts me in a better mood and I get to hear how Howard did his steroids, thank you Howard, I don't think I would have slept no knowing your amazing regime
    Next time we can exchange cell #'s .
    When I ignore your call, you can try the following:

    1. eat beans
    2. stick your head under the covers
    3. FART

    You'll pass out and get some sleep.

    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by Howard; November 20, 2021, 03:03 PM.
    I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ron Harris View Post
      Trained from age 14 to 27 naturally, competed natty from 1989-1995, I would have been more than happy to stay natural except I knew I had hit my limit and wanted more.
      I think this is the basic story with most serious bodybuilders that hit the juice.
      Any young buck who hit the sauce from day 1 , won't last.

      Like you Ron, I spent my early years natural, then hit the sauce for additional gains.
      However, unlike most , I stopped using and competed natty in UN-tested NPC shows during the later years.
      LOL, by the late 80's I gave up on any pro card dreams and pursued a different career path.

      Like most things outside of work/career , you start doing it because you like it.
      I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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      • #18
        100%. I fell in love with training and nutrition, drugs were simply the finishing touch. With that said, I quit using any gear nearly three years ago and still feel amazing and look pretty solid. I don't care to be 230-240lbs anymore, I am content in the 180s-190s and being lean.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by shutupandsquat700 View Post
          100%. I fell in love with training and nutrition, drugs were simply the finishing touch. With that said, I quit using any gear nearly three years ago and still feel amazing and look pretty solid. I don't care to be 230-240lbs anymore, I am content in the 180s-190s and being lean.
          Great story and personal example.
          I keep thinking I need to drop down the that wt, but, I'm not doing it.

          LOL, I have "fork in mouth disease"
          I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ron Harris View Post
            Trained from age 14 to 27 naturally, competed natty from 1989-1995, I would have been more than happy to stay natural except I knew I had hit my limit and wanted more.
            During those young , natty years, would you have used juice if some gym bro gave it to you?

            LOL, that's how I got into juicing. I'd been a natty BB and power lifter from the start.
            I had recently gotten off active duty USMC and was training in a hardcore gym.

            One of the older , massive power lifters made me an offer, I couldn't refuse:
            " I'll give your first shot of deca free and you gotta buy more IF you decide to use."
            I went to the back shower room ,he loaded the syringe with decca and pinned me

            Other then a little sore spot in the butt cheek, I didn't feel any different for 3 days.
            After 4 days, I was working chest and boom, I got a few more reps on each wt . Plus the pump was insane.

            I stayed with 1 decca shot a week for the next 8 weeks and went off for 2 weeks.
            He gave me a free shot of HCG to jump start my testes and hasten my own natural production .

            I bought a bottle of "methandrostendolone" ( sp?) ie "generic dianabol" and
            did 2 tabs per day for 50 days ( bottle of 100 ran out ).

            I was disappointed with that one, so after HCG and 2 weeks off,
            he sold me a bottle of "halotestin" ( light green tabs " flouroxysterone" ? ) which worked well on my 2 tabs /day dosage.

            After 1 full year on these basic 1 drug cycles , I decided to diet down and compete.
            From my 3+ years of experimenting, I'll agree with Noel, that BB was more fun and productive .
            Last edited by Howard; November 24, 2021, 10:32 PM.
            I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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            • #21
              Jesus deca by itself

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Griff11 View Post
                Jesus deca by itself
                Mr Floppy. Basically.
                MD Global Muscle Radio ep.40-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MIKWx8sAcw&t=5319s

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                • #23
                  I am a Natural Marvel from good looks to charm!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mayor of bodybuilding View Post
                    I am a Natural Marvel from good looks to charm!
                    You are a legend...in your own mind.
                    I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Griff11 View Post
                      Jesus deca by itself
                      Yup! That was my first cycle in 1984 .
                      I was too cheap and cautious to use more than one drug at a time, per cycle ( aporx 8-10 weeks) with 2-3 weeks off.

                      Plus, the nerdy scientist part of me , wanted to see what that drug could do.
                      It was like any "experiment" where you try to control all the variables.

                      FYI, my training then was always HIT "heavy duty-pre-exhaustion" aka Mentzer method.

                      In all modesty, during my 3 yrs 6 mos of juice use, I really learned what each drug did for me.
                      For example, I did a couple cycles of test-cyponate injections ( 200 mg per week) with minimal results.
                      Every other drug worked a lot better with comparable dosages.

                      I know this sounds lame, but I stuck with the "prescribed dose instructions" on the inserts.
                      Most say that's too low to get much from 'em, but I never got a side effect or problem, so wtf.
                      I saw a star, reached for it...and MISSED

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