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  • What Was Your Motivation for Competing? (competitors only)

    Inspired by Bestia's writing in a different thread, simple -- for those of you who competed (preferably multiple times) -- why did you do it? What was your motivation, and what was your mindset during those years? If you climbed the ranks in any way, what motivated you to push harder as you went? Did you hope to turn pro? Just test the waters against the best in your area? What?


    Me: I didn't really jump into the bodybuilding lifestyle until I was 24, and I had a big frame and a lot of body fat to strip (fat my entire life up until then) -- so I had no hopes and dreams of competing someday, I just wanted to look a bit more like a bodybuilder. I started working as a personal trainer about 2 years after I began training myself -- semi hardcore gym that had a few other seasoned competitors (NPC national level, Reggie Anderson, and Muscle Mania pro Anthony Villaci). I dieted down hard to get as ripped as I could while working there, those two kinda' planted the seed of the idea in mind, "You should compete eventually, you look good".


    I took 2 more years of slowly putting on size and working on bringing up weak body parts, then did my first natty show in 2007.


    I was already old-ish to be getting started (around 28 at the time) -- and I was already working pretty damning hours as a trainer, trying to pay for a mortgage etc. So from the very beginning, my motivations to compete were:


    1) Just to get in the best shape of my life, go through the process, see what I had built over the last several years; and
    2) To help bring attention to and advertise my services as a personal trainer.


    I trained my balls off for that first show, showed up, and felt the wind sucked out of my sails -- even though I was a natty 210 on stage, I looked like dogshit compared to the older smaller black dudes with pretty muscle bellies, better symmetry, better conditioning. I had no delusions about "winning my first show" -- but that first show was a big wake up call for me, "It isn't about scale weight or stature, it's about a LOOK" -- and, the harsh "genetics" word -- I just wasn't put together like a pretty bodybuilder. I'm Scottish and Norwegian, big hips and thick joints -- I was probably better suited for strongman or powerlifting, not bodybuilding. But bodybuilding was what I loved, so I stuck with it.


    Fully grasping that "genetics" card at my first show, I realized then: I don't really enjoy comparing myself to others and putting it in the hands of a judge -- that's NOT what drove me, and I kinda' positively disliked it -- all that brutally hard work for months on end, already knowing that I wasn't really built for this sport. I never outright feared competing (I loved it) -- but I definitely put a wall, emotionally, where I wouldn't allow myself to be overly invested in it. I realized the entire time, "This doesn't pay your bills, this mostly leads to a path of excessive drug use and mental health issues" -- and so I always put up roadblocks that probably slowed my own progression over the years.


    So much of my motivation over time was simply to advertise my business, make sure that I had good income coming in to support my family. Competing didn't pay, but it "put me out there" with high visibility compared to most other trainers in my area. People knew I walked the walk and lived the lifestyle.


    And I would have trained and eaten the same way regardless -- I DID have the motivation to be a "better bodybuilder", even if I wasn't going to compete. But getting on stage helped to define the metrics of "what I needed to focus on" -- bringing up rear delts this year, bringing up hamstrings the next, etc. It helps to provide something of an external roadmap to guide my own internal desire to train a certain way, look a certain way, feel a certain way.


    It seemed each season I competed got a little crazier -- life demands, daughter getting older, business getting bigger -- and I had to shift into new gears to just get through things. But I came to almost cherish that crazy mode, the adrenaline of running on very little sleep, very little food, etc. And what fueled me as I got further along -- it wasn't "I'm going to walk in and beat everybody" -- instead, it was knowing that I was outworking the competition -- able to work the hours I did, and still prep through it, pedal to the floor.


    Competing was always a test for myself -- can I walk through this hell unscathed, push harder than last time, and come out the other side? The actual shows themselves were something of an afterthought, I never saw myself rising up to the national level and beyond.
    www.DavidJohnstonTraining.com

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    Such a great topic man! Seriously, revisiting what triggered the journey and what drove us to excel can only serveto renew and reignite that fire for whatever purpose we choose to apply it. I enjoyed reading the above, getting unique insight into your mindset.

    I was always a skinny scrapper - the fiesty kid that was short and a stick but would never quit. I loved sports and wrestled for a while with decent success. Sophomore year in high school I decided I didn't want to stay small. A friend's brother had a Muscle and Fitness sitting on his couch. Lee Haney was on the cover and I was amazed. I sat and read the entire issue then and there (to the annoyance of my friend). I asked his brother if I could have it. He was always kind of a dick and said no, but I took it anyway when he wasn't looking.

    After that I was a sponge, Joe Weider Encyclopedia, Arnolds, Ellington Darden's books, Chris Aceto Competitive Bodybuilding, any issue of any muscle mag I could find. I trained first at my house and then Golds Gym. It was normal "me" when I find something I love - I'm ALL IN. But for this it was different. I knew some guys in school that started using anabolics. I was all in but not THAT all in. If I used them and loved the results, I'd never come off (I just wouldn't). I wouldn't be willing to give back any gains. I respected the top guys and how they had to use it to get there, but since I wasnt willing to risk my personality with it, I got a chip on my shoulder as guys my age that used just blew up.

    I wrote in my Arnold Encyclopedia "Mr Olympia 2000 - natural". It was 1988 and it just shows you how naive I was. I would train my ass off and write workouts and posing routines when I had any free time. In 94 I was going.to prep for a natural show in 95, but injured my shoulder and had surgery. Came back from that and watched Steve Holland win his class at the USAs around 98 and my friend John Batiste win the Natural Illinois. Another guys from IL had just won the inaugural "Natural Olympia" in 98 - John Hansen. So I started to plan for a show in 2000. Injured my other shoulder and needed surgery. I thought it wasn't meant to be.

    I remember sitting in post op and I told my wife, whatever it takes Im doing Kevin Nobles Natural Mid States in 2002. She smiled and nodded and said I know you will. 2002 came and I was ready. I made all the normal mistakes - wasn't dark enough (I looked like Casper next to the others even though I was the darkest I had ever been, I lost my place in my routine so I just made shit up as I went, standing relax I flexed my legs stiff straight so I could show striations (yes I was that douche). People that knew me and knew how many others had told me I'd never be good enough showed up in droves. I won the light heavies and placed 3rd overall.

    I think lots of people thought that would be it because I had gotten up there and found out. I achieved that goal. I had proved some people wrong. But that was never my goal. My goal was to compete and be the last hand raised - no weight class, no novice or masters or anything, just overall champion.

    I immediately said 2004 Mid States. Same show, 2 years to progress. 2 years later I was back and more prepared. After the morning show I was walking up from the pump up room and Jeff Johnson the head judge came and shook my hand and said congratulations. My wife looked at me and said "you won, you going to win". I told her nothing was decided yet and to calm down. The night show came and I won the lightheavies. I knew the middle weight LT Fason was good and tall and it was between us. They worked us, pose for pose again and again. And and 1 pt decision...your 2004 overall champion.....from the....Middleweights! I gathered myself, shook his hand, and walked off numb.

    I thought, this is as good as I can possibly be. And it wasn't enough. A friend and former Team Universe 3rd place finisher Randy Spaulding (a silverback) came into the pump room and told me to get up. I told him my best wasn't enough. He pushed me hard enough where I almost fell down and said "your best today, the best you could be today - not how good you can be".

    I talked to my wife and told her I wanted another shot. We had 2 little girls and we're planning a 3rd in 2006. I told her I'll run it back one last time in 2007 - Kevin Nobles Natural Midwest Grand Prix (the sister show to the previous ones I had done). Or daughter was born and later that year I started prep - 25 weeks. It wasn't show prep it was living a prep lifestyle. Heavy deadlifts were added every other back workout. No missed meals, no missed workouts, nothing sacrificed. 2007 show came - I was calm. Huge # of competitors, the middleweight was someone I knew and had competed against in my first show and he was an overall champ from this show the year prior. That was great! If I won this time I didn't want to know that I avoided dudes. I won the light heavies again. Now for the overall. Went out there and we all did our thing. There was a great comaraderie at the show. Chuck Sanow says "we've got 2 trophies tonight". I said oh shit! "Best Poser goes to Steve Trezek in the middle weights". I hear my wife yell "you don't want that one Derek". Chuck comes back on "and your 2007....overall champion....from the lightjeavyweights"! I won. I just fucking won. Kevin handed me the trophy and he said here you want this, I said all I wanted was my hand raised. That's all I ever wanted.
    Last edited by Bestia; August 22, 2023, 08:23 AM.

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    • #3
      Sorry for the novel guys. I teared up typing that shit

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      • #4
        I started following bbing in 87 but was still playing sports but we messed around lifting using bad form and maxing out. My best friend's dad had a M&F that had the 85 Olympia in it and I was MEZMORIZED. I just fell in love seeing Gaspari, Haney, Beckles, etc at that show. I started borrowing those Muscle and Fitness then later in 87 I got a subscription to Flex and M7F.

        I do remember seeing a pic of Shawn Ray at the 86 Cal and was an immediate fan! Later I saw him on the cover of Flex after the Nationals and decided at that moment (early 88) that I wanted to do this. But I played football, basketball and baseball my freshman year in HS but quit to become a bber. This was around Summer of 88. Next thing you know im watching American Muscle with Shawn's Dream Girls routine and it was like a sign from God.

        Now at this time im getting Flex, M7F, Ironman, Muscle Mag and Womens Physique World and just STUDYING the physiques, diets, etc. So im leafing through Flex and see an ad for the 89 Armold Classic in Columbus. Im from Cleveland and that is a 2 hour drive for me. So thankfully my parents bought tickets and we went. We sat in the VERY last row at the Vet and I watched Gaspari, Strydom, Robinson, Paris and Bertil Fox battle it out. And in October, one month after my 16th bday I was on stage at the Teen Mr. Cleveland up to 17-year class. I took 4th and can still remember the rush from the crowd during the posing round. I posed to Al B. Sure's version of Killing Me Softly and stope some moves from Ray and Phil Hill. I did teen shows every year from 89-1993 when I FINALLY won the Teen class at Dean Caputo's Powerhouse Classic. Ron Love gave me my trophy and Berry deMay guest posed 6 weeks from his IFBB comeback.

        Man that was such a great time. Dieting on Chicken, Eggs and baby food! LOL
        SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
        2016 NBA Champs...Cleveland Cavs

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bestia View Post
          Such a great topic man! Seriously, revisiting what triggered the journey and what drove us to excel can only serveto renew and reignite that fire for whatever purpose we choose to apply it. I enjoyed reading the above, getting unique insight into your mindset.

          I was always a skinny scrapper - the fiesty kid that was short and a stick but would never quit. I loved sports and wrestled for a while with decent success. Sophomore year in high school I decided I didn't want to stay small. A friend's brother had a Muscle and Fitness sitting on his couch. Lee Haney was on the cover and I was amazed. I sat and read the entire issue then and there (to the annoyance of my friend). I asked his brother if I could have it. He was always kind of a dick and said no, but I took it anyway when he wasn't looking.

          After that I was a sponge, Joe Weider Encyclopedia, Arnolds, Ellington Darden's books, Chris Aceto Competitive Bodybuilding, any issue of any muscle mag I could find. I trained first at my house and then Golds Gym. It was normal "me" when I find something I love - I'm ALL IN. But for this it was different. I knew some guys in school that started using anabolics. I was all in but not THAT all in. If I used them and loved the results, I'd never come off (I just wouldn't). I wouldn't be willing to give back any gains. I respected the top guys and how they had to use it to get there, but since I wasnt willing to risk my personality with it, I got a chip on my shoulder as guys my age that used just blew up.

          I wrote in my Arnold Encyclopedia "Mr Olympia 2000 - natural". It was 1988 and it just shows you how naive I was. I would train my ass off and write workouts and posing routines when I had any free time. In 94 I was going.to prep for a natural show in 95, but injured my shoulder and had surgery. Came back from that and watched Steve Holland win his class at the USAs around 98 and my friend John Batiste win the Natural Illinois. Another guys from IL had just won the inaugural "Natural Olympia" in 98 - John Hansen. So I started to plan for a show in 2000. Injured my other shoulder and needed surgery. I thought it wasn't meant to be.

          I remember sitting in post op and I told my wife, whatever it takes Im doing Kevin Nobles Natural Mid States in 2002. She smiled and nodded and said I know you will. 2002 came and I was ready. I made all the normal mistakes - wasn't dark enough (I looked like Casper next to the others even though I was the darkest I had ever been, I lost my place in my routine so I just made shit up as I went, standing relax I flexed my legs stiff straight so I could show striations (yes I was that douche). People that knew me and knew how many others had told me I'd never be good enough showed up in droves. I won the light heavies and placed 3rd overall.

          I think lots of people thought that would be it because I had gotten up there and found out. I achieved that goal. I had proved some people wrong. But that was never my goal. Y goal was to compete and be the last hand raised - no weight class, no movie or masters or anything, just overall champion.

          I immediately said 2004 Mid States. Same show, 2 years to progress. 2 years later I was back and more prepared. After the morning show I was walking up from the pump up room and Jeff Johnson the head judge came and shook my hand and said congratulations. My wife looked at me and said "you won, you going to win". I told her nothing was decided yet and to calm down. The night show came and I the lightheavies. I knew the middle weight LT Fason was good and tall and it was between us. They worked us, pose for pose again and again. And and 1 pt decision...your 2004 overall champion.....from the....Middleweights! I gathered myself, shook his hand, and walked off numb.

          I thought, this is as good as I can possibly be. And it wasn't enough. A friend and former Team Universe 3rd place finisher Randy Spaulding (a silverback) came into the pump room and told me to get up. I told him my best wasn't enough. He pushed me hard enough where I almost fell down and said "your best today, the best you could be today - not how good you can be".

          I talked to my wife and told her I wanted another shot. We had 2 little girls and we're planning a 3rd in 2006. I told her I'll run it back one last time in 2007 - Kevin Nobles Natural Midwest Grand Prix (the sister show to the previous ones I had done). Or daughter was born and later that year I started prep - 25 weeks. It wasn't show prep it was living a prep lifestyle. Heavy deadlifts were added every other back workout. No missed meals, no missed workouts, nothing sacrificed. 2007 show came - I was calm. Huge # of competitors, the middleweight was someone I knew and had competed against in my first show and he was an overall champ from this show the year prior. That was great! If I won this time I didn't want to know that I avoided dudes. I won the light heavies again. Now for the overall. Went out there and we all did our thing. There was a great comaraderie at the show. Chuck Sanow says "we've got 2 trophies tonight". I said oh shit! "Best Poser goes to Steve Trezek in the middle weights". I hear my wife yell "you don't want that one Derek". Chuck comes back on "and your 2007....overall champion....from the lightjeavyweights"! I won. I just fucking won. Kevin handed me the trophy and he said here you want this, I said all I wanted was my hand raised. That's all I ever wanted.
          Good stuff

          I saw Chuck compete against Dexter at the NA's back in 98. Chuck was DICED!!!
          SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
          2016 NBA Champs...Cleveland Cavs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bigmikecox View Post
            I started following bbing in 87 but was still playing sports but we messed around lifting using bad form and maxing out. My best friend's dad had a M&F that had the 85 Olympia in it and I was MEZMORIZED. I just fell in love seeing Gaspari, Haney, Beckles, etc at that show. I started borrowing those Muscle and Fitness then later in 87 I got a subscription to Flex and M7F.

            I do remember seeing a pic of Shawn Ray at the 86 Cal and was an immediate fan! Later I saw him on the cover of Flex after the Nationals and decided at that moment (early 88) that I wanted to do this. But I played football, basketball and baseball my freshman year in HS but quit to become a bber. This was around Summer of 88. Next thing you know im watching American Muscle with Shawn's Dream Girls routine and it was like a sign from God.

            Now at this time im getting Flex, M7F, Ironman, Muscle Mag and Womens Physique World and just STUDYING the physiques, diets, etc. So im leafing through Flex and see an ad for the 89 Armold Classic in Columbus. Im from Cleveland and that is a 2 hour drive for me. So thankfully my parents bought tickets and we went. We sat in the VERY last row at the Vet and I watched Gaspari, Strydom, Robinson, Paris and Bertil Fox battle it out. And in October, one month after my 16th bday I was on stage at the Teen Mr. Cleveland up to 17-year class. I took 4th and can still remember the rush from the crowd during the posing round. I posed to Al B. Sure's version of Killing Me Softly and stope some moves from Ray and Phil Hill. I did teen shows every year from 89-1993 when I FINALLY won the Teen class at Dean Caputo's Powerhouse Classic. Ron Love gave me my trophy and Berry deMay guest posed 6 weeks from his IFBB comeback.

            Man that was such a great time. Dieting on Chicken, Eggs and baby food! LOL
            That is great shit Mike! Caputo visited the Powerhouse I was at in early 90s and he has probably the biggest chest I've ever seen. Ron Love - same thing but for shoulders

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            • #7
              I only did 3 shows and my last was my best in 1991. The idea that as a very skinny non muscular teen to actually compete in bodybuilding was insane. I have met so many cool people ( Excited to meet Mike and Griff at the Olympia)and had so many awesome workouts. The essence of bodybuilding is to be your best and that is what life is all about! Love this topic!

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              • #8
                For anyone reading -- my first show in '07 was Bestia's final show, where he won the overall. I've already told him this, but I remember standing in the wings as the middleweights and lightheavies posed (I was 1 of 4 heavies). When Bestia was getting ready to go out and pose, he was so fucking amped up -- in the 13 shows I did after that show, I have never seen somebody that amped up backstage, literally hopping up and down, getting psyched to go do his routine -- and we were happy FOR him. Everybody backstage knew he was taking the overall, and the energy he exuded showed how much effort and focus he had put into the entire prep.


                I bought the DVD for that show and watched his routine probably 20 more times over the next couple of years. It stood out, this is what bodybuilding CAN be -- most people are backstage looking half dead, waiting for the day to be over -- but not Bestia. He tore the roof off the place that night, and had the entire audience AND competitor roster pulling for him. Pretty cool to be a part of that.
                www.DavidJohnstonTraining.com

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                • #9
                  Easy answer I'm competitive football, boxing, did some power lifting. I love to train so why not step up

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                  • #10
                    This made an impression upon me as a kid. I knew I'd never be a great bodybuilder but the process is my win

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                    • #11
                      Love The Man in the Arena.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the kind words David. Appreciate you man

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mayor of bodybuilding View Post
                          I only did 3 shows and my last was my best in 1991. The idea that as a very skinny non muscular teen to actually compete in bodybuilding was insane. I have met so many cool people ( Excited to meet Mike and Griff at the Olympia)and had so many awesome workouts. The essence of bodybuilding is to be your best and that is what life is all about! Love this topic!
                          Appreciate you sharing Mayor. Just to be clear, there is no "only 3 shows". Setting your mind to it, sticking to the plan, standing next to others seeking the same goal, and allowing yourself to be judged wearing next to nothing even one time is something the vast majority of people that pick up a weight will never know. The journey, the bond and friendships you form, and the true test of you against yourself is something that can never be taken from you

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                          • #14
                            Watching Pumping Iron when I was 12, sealed the deal for me.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lifepulse View Post
                              For those of you who competed (preferably multiple times) -- why did you do it? What was your motivation, and what was your mindset during those years? If you climbed the ranks in any way, what motivated you to push harder as you went? Did you hope to turn pro? Just test the waters against the best in your area? What?
                              .
                              I guess one other thing I would add to my initial response above is that it was always important to me to only get placed for what I earned. I would much rather be the guy that got screwed out of a placing having everyone know I earned better than what I got instead of the guy that is gifted a placing I didn't deserve.

                              That's why I'm always quick to pile on whenever Griff mentions Hunter getting gifted spots at the Olympia, etc

                              The respect was always and should always be more important than the trophy

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