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This has got to STOP!! Men’s Physique Pro Cards at North Americans

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  • This has got to STOP!! Men’s Physique Pro Cards at North Americans

    image_364027.jpg IMG_2665.jpeg As Giles would say “they are taking the piss” or “are they having a laugh?”.

    Sorry for beating a dead horse but this is just silly.
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    Last edited by leigh; August 31, 2023, 12:04 AM.
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    Reason they have so many pro cards is to get numbers iwhich = entry fees, paying for tan, paying for video/photos
    Every entrant is $ / big style

    Then as they move on to pro shows, for some reason sanction fees for open bodybuilding is much higher than men's physique and every other class. So promoters have to reduce open prize money or not have open classes

    Then this causes 60-70 qualifications in the board shorts/bikini etc classes at the Olympia

    This then causes the show to be over run by hours

    Answer to the problem?

    >>>> Get rid of the THREE points qualifiers for the open

    That will fix it : )

    *Brotherhood of iron *

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    • #3
      Whoah!
      MD Global Muscle Radio ep.40-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MIKWx8sAcw&t=5319s

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GeorgeUK View Post
        Reason they have so many pro cards is to get numbers iwhich = entry fees, paying for tan, paying for video/photos
        Every entrant is $ / big style

        Then as they move on to pro shows, for some reason sanction fees for open bodybuilding is much higher than men's physique and every other class. So promoters have to reduce open prize money or not have open classes

        Then this causes 60-70 qualifications in the board shorts/bikini etc classes at the Olympia

        This then causes the show to be over run by hours

        Answer to the problem?

        >>>> Get rid of the THREE points qualifiers for the open

        That will fix it : )
        I know it’s all about the money but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

        Also why does it vary so greatly between countries?
        This is just one example of a show in the USA, many more are similar.

        Compared to Australia where there are literally only two pro cards per class per year. I’m sure Tony Doherty would enjoy some additional income but he’s not about that.

        I know Canada and the UK have a couple more chances these days but the numbers are still quite low.
        www.leighcarmichael.com

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        • #5
          2 years ago they gave 30 cards in Mens Physique, lol
          http://betionastore.es/

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          • #6
            SMDH!!!!!
            SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
            2016 NBA Champs...Cleveland Cavs

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            • #7
              Is there anyone left in the US who doesn’t have a procard??

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              • #8
                Cocaine ain't cheap

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Griff11 View Post
                  Cocaine ain't cheap
                  R O F L M F A O

                  #FishScale
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bigmikecox View Post

                    R O F L M F A O

                    #FishScale
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GeorgeUK View Post
                      Reason they have so many pro cards is to get numbers iwhich = entry fees, paying for tan, paying for video/photos
                      Every entrant is $ / big style

                      Then as they move on to pro shows, for some reason sanction fees for open bodybuilding is much higher than men's physique and every other class. So promoters have to reduce open prize money or not have open classes

                      Then this causes 60-70 qualifications in the board shorts/bikini etc classes at the Olympia

                      This then causes the show to be over run by hours

                      Answer to the problem?

                      >>>> Get rid of the THREE points qualifiers for the open

                      That will fix it : )
                      Kinda' not directly related/tangent here -- but this is why I was criticizing Tyler Manion's post-Texas video and going over posing blah. The IFBB has a "put a Band-Aid on a sinking ship" approach, and has, the entire time I've been a fan. Some growing problem, let's introduce one tiny mandate, like in 2005 -- "The Gut Ban" in men's open -- then essentially not enforce it and things continue on as they always have, without really sitting down and thinking through the larger picture. It's a weak way of passing the buck to the fans, passing the blame to competitors ("Gee, why aren't men's open guys showing up and competing, they must be lazy and not driven" blah blah blah.)


                      The "sport" has been "sick" -- organizationally -- for decades. The IFBB runs things in utter shit-show mode at all times, so 5 people at the top can make gobs of money, and the competitors themselves -- and fans -- are left to suck the big dick, fuck ya if you don't like it. Oh, there's buzz, let's put out a 5-minute video, throw the fans a bone and act like there's some aspect of organization and rules and rationality behind our utterly-arbitrary decision making.


                      If they want to actually "promote the best bodybuilding in a world" -- they need to have a summit with said top dawgs, and invite some current top competitors -- and former top competitors (Cutler, Cormier, maybe Fouad) -- put pen to paper, and try to actually figure things out in a more systemic way.


                      Until then, it will remain shit-show mode. The same things that started killing the sport in 2010 (introduction of bikini etc.) -- are continuing to fester and kill the sport (men's open, at least). They just want to turn a blind eye to it, pretend there's zero connection, and carry on as normal.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 1Patrick View Post
                        Is there anyone left in the US who doesn’t have a procard??
                        me, i don't have mine yet.
                        MY KING OF KINGS

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 1Patrick View Post
                          Is there anyone left in the US who doesn’t have a procard??
                          Haha I know I few guys who have moved there from other countries, gotten green cards or residency through some means, all with the goal of picking up one of these Pro Cards.

                          Sure enough, within a short time they were successful.
                          www.leighcarmichael.com

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Griff11 View Post

                            Good times with JM white claw Newport lights
                            ROFLMFAO
                            SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY
                            2016 NBA Champs...Cleveland Cavs

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                            • #15
                              I think I am one cycle away from a pro card.

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