This has got to STOP!! Men’s Physique Pro Cards at North Americans

[Bestia]

I vividly remember leaving the USA or North Americans back in the 90's and there were only TWO new Pro's - whoever won the Overall for Men and Women. There was only bodybuilding, for anyone who may not realize that.

Yes. Only USAs gave one for each weight class for mens

[leigh]

I vividly remember leaving the USA or North Americans back in the 90's and there were only TWO new Pro's - whoever won the Overall for Men and Women. There was only bodybuilding, for anyone who may not realize that.

Aging myself here but when I got into this 25 years ago in Australia, there was men’s/women’s bodybuilding and fitness.
Many years went by where no Pro Cards were given out.
Even national winners had to apply or first represent Australia internationals.
Only by placing well overseas could they finally get their card.

[bigmikecox]

Yes. Only USAs gave one for each weight class for mens

Shit only the overall winners one a pro card up until I think 2000

[bigmikecox]

No pro card should be given away at the Jr USA or Jr Nationals

[Big Beat]

I think in the 1980's the only US competition where class winners got pro cards was the nationals.

I think before that they had to win the amateur IFBB universe (before it changed name the world championships) to get a pro card.

Even after winning their pro card competitors still had to make an application to get their card and that didn't always get it.

[Bestia]

No pro card should be given away at the Jr USA or Jr Nationals

Correct. If fact, you should have to be top 3 at these shows to qualify to compete at NA, nationals, or usas

[bigmikecox]

Correct. If fact, you should have to be top 3 at these shows to qualify to compete at NA, nationals, or usas

Agreed!!!

But how many people would even show up if they that happened? They wont be able to put "Future National Level Compeitor" on their socials

[Bestia]

Agreed!!!

But how many people would even show up if they that happened? They wont be able to put "Future National Level Compeitor" on their socials

So be it. I am happy to drop those folks from fake relevance and validation

[Beti ona]

Aging myself here but when I got into this 25 years ago in Australia, there was men’s/women’s bodybuilding and fitness.
Many years went by where no Pro Cards were given out.
Even national winners had to apply or first represent Australia internationals.
Only by placing well overseas could they finally get their card.

And amateur athletes around the world accepted that things worked that way.

Even now, after having increased the chances of winning the pro card in the rest of the world, many more cards are given out in the US.

It may make sense that in the US they distribute more pro cards because they have a very widespread circuit of competitions at the amateur level, and BB developed there, but the proportion has always been far from balanced.

[Beti ona]

Even after winning their pro card competitors still had to make an application to get their card and that didn't always get it.

The president of the national federation decided whether to process your pro card or not. They often kept you as an amateur so that you would belong to them.

Some, like Badell, moved to another country where they would receive better treatment that would allow them to be pro.