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Ronnie Coleman and Kevin English Back Training Tips from the MD Legends Seminar

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  • #16
    I've been doing one body part once per week. I work hard, but it still doesn't seem to be enough. Might change it up to work on each body part atleast once every 4-5 days instead. Any advice on how I should split my workouts?
    "I can accept failure... But I can't accept not trying." - Michael Jordan

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    • #17
      yeah you have to take into account many things like gear or no gear, individual recovery ability, good versus bad nutrition, genetics etc.
      also ronnie takes off long periods of time to recover each year.
      i think if a natural athlete with a decent nutrition program were to do this, they would be overtrained. i've tried the twice a week and it did not take long before i regretted it with feeling sluggish, joint were aching, and loss of strength.

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      • #18
        Kevin English is a class act as well as Ronnie!

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        • #19
          I really enjoyed listening to these two guys. Good video.

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          • #20
            in every DVD RONNIE trains 1 day chest tris,2 day back bis,3 day leggs,4 day shoulders= HE IS NOT TRAINING TWICE A WEEK EACH BODY PART!!!damn people tend to believe everything that he say

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            • #21
              I've been doing this split for a couple month and I love it.
              1) Legs and back
              2) Chest and shoulers
              3) Arms and calves
              I repeat or take rest day as needed

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              • #22
                I agree there but if it were me I think Day 2 and Day 3 should switch spots. Just me though

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                • #23
                  Legs and back on the same day? How about fuck no?
                  A standard is set when performance is taken to a new level.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MEAT ROCKET View Post
                    Legs and back on the same day? How about fuck no?
                    Ahah! Don't see it this way. 3 exercices per muscle groupe for 3-5 sets each. It's all you need really, cause in 3 day you will do it again

                    Last time I did it went something like this:

                    - Chest supported T-Bar 4 x 8-10
                    - Lat pulldown to the front 4 x 8-10
                    - Rear Delt raise 3 x 10-12
                    - Lying Leg curl 5 x 5
                    - Leg extension 1 x 10, 1 x 15, 1 x 20
                    - Full Squat 1 x 8, 1 x 12, 1x 15

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                    • #25
                      kevin and ronnie kinda hav the same body lol

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MEAT ROCKET View Post
                        Legs and back on the same day? How about fuck no?
                        This x 10000000000

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by teenbodybuilder3 View Post
                          This x 10000000000

                          ^ this times 2, if your not close to yacking on both of these days, put another plate on...

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                          • #28
                            It's not the split, it's how you do it !

                            Remember you do half volume for both group and then repeat after 3 day. It's not full volume for both group, in which case I agree it would be overkill.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by themakcompany View Post
                              I started my bodybuilding career training body parts twice a week. I'm back at it. I think Ronnie is right. You need to work a body part more than once every seven days. Actually Haney says the same. This once a week is ridiculous. I guess if you are juicing that works. But to build mass without drugs you really need to work the muscle more often.

                              Chest/Back
                              Quads/Hams/Calves
                              Shoulders/Triceps/Biceps
                              off
                              Repeat

                              That's the winning routine. Give it a try.
                              That's pretty much the same split that I use, the only difference is that I hit each muscle once every 5-6 days, so I can have more days off in between each session.

                              There is no best way to train though, neither a correct training frequency..only what works for you. The only thing I can say is that the more volume you use per workout, the less frequent you should train a bodypart or the more frequency needs less volume per session.
                              Also some people are not able to properly stress/tear down a muscle during a training session, recover faster and thus need more frequency, while others actually can do it and need more days off. Its all individual....you can't say something like "this is the only correct way to train".

                              I really don't think juice has anything to do with it, since bodybuilders were already juicing back in Arnold's days and before when hitting muscle 2-3 times a week was mandatory. FYI Ronnie and Haney also juiced.

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