Off-season condition and growing lean

[smbarney]

Matt how does this look for a endo just for body comp results before increasing to lean bulk?

Meal 1. 2 whole eggs, 1.5 cup egg whites
1 cup oats

Post workout . 9 oz tilapia, 1 cup jasmine rice

Meal 2. 8 oz chicken breast, 1 oz almonds

Meal 3. 7 oz 99 lean ground turkey, 1 tbsp virgin coconut oil

Meal 4. 8 oz chicken, 1 oz almonds

Meal 5. 50 g whey shake, 1 oz almonds or cashews.

[modredtrenton]

Here is a pic that I just got from a photoshoot I had done this last Saturday ... the photographer is Jr Wyatt (he's on FaceBook) ... He is sending me the rest as we speak but thought I would post this pic so you can see where I'm at 7.5 weeks into the stack ....

you really show good results but i get sick from your permanent my stack did this and that to me . first i thought you refer to your drug cycle but then i learned that your "stack" are only normal suplements... at 41 results dont come from things you can buy legaly we are not dumb .

[CrazyBaldhead]

you really show good results but i get sick from your permanent my stack did this and that to me . first i thought you refer to your drug cycle but then i learned that your "stack" are only normal suplements... at 41 results dont come from things you can buy legaly we are not dumb .

Ever thought he might be talking about prohormones dumbass?

[Matt Porter]

you really show good results but i get sick from your permanent my stack did this and that to me . first i thought you refer to your drug cycle but then i learned that your "stack" are only normal suplements... at 41 results dont come from things you can buy legaly we are not dumb .

He's 48 and he is EXACTLY on what described earlier in this thread.

TRT 200 mgs

Androsterone (DHT) (AndroHard)

11-keto testosterone (AndroLean)

Topical 11 keto testosterone (AndroEnhance)

So yes I have some good hormones flowing through his veins....

No bullshit kid

-Matt

[wreck12]

Hey Matt what would you suggest for my offseason plan? stay lean! lol

[modredtrenton]

Ever thought he might be talking about prohormones dumbass?

prohormones are suplements you cant compare to the real stuff you dumbass.

[modredtrenton]

He's 48 and he is EXACTLY on what described earlier in this thread.

TRT 200 mgs

Androsterone (DHT) (AndroHard)

11-keto testosterone (AndroLean)

Topical 11 keto testosterone (AndroEnhance)

So yes I have some good hormones flowing through his veins....

No bullshit kid

-Matt

you did a good job with him anyway. i wonder what would be possible with your knowledge in my corner.

[Matt Porter]

you did a good job with him anyway. i wonder what would be possible with your knowledge in my corner.

Lots of the current designer steroids on the market are REAL stuff....in fact, most cases more dangerous and toxic.

mechabol = methyl clostebol
Ultradrol = methyl stenbolone
Epistane = Epitiostanol

Those are all target hormones --- not precursors

For the products I have Tony....

AndroHard = DHT precursor
AndroLEAN = Target hormone (11-ketotestosterone)
AndroEnhance = (same as AndroLEAN, just topical)

What are your goals? Compete or train for recreation?

-Matt

[Matt Porter]

Hey Matt what would you suggest for my offseason plan? stay lean! lol

Wreck? you down for the count? email/text me bro


-Matt

[BlueRocket]

you really show good results but i get sick from your permanent my stack did this and that to me . first i thought you refer to your drug cycle but then i learned that your "stack" are only normal suplements... at 41 results dont come from things you can buy legaly we are not dumb .

Hi Mod... hey I take that as a compliment... but seriously I have stated what I'm on ... and I've stated who is guiding me.... with that combo and my diet being to a t of what Matt tells me too ... those are the results. You have to remember I came off my show and stayed lean the whole time. Matt added in slight calorie increases along with the "stack" that I stated.... my body responds well it seems and I'm 100% committed too doing EXACTLY what Matt tells me... 24/7.

and... I'm actually 48

[FlashRob.com]

some good knowledge shared here.

[smbarney]

matt in your opinion how does someone take that next step. how do you go from what most would call a big guy like 5'9 210 10-12 percent body fat average genetics not pure ecto or pure endo, to someone who looks like a bodybuilder, 5'9'' 230 leaner and bigger. (im not talking contest condition or trying to go pro just making that change from a lil above avergae to big boy status) obviously gear comes into play but how to you do this with minimal dosage and without getting on slin or 10 ius gh. is it possible ? do you just have to eat and put body fat on the back burner for a bit and get as big as possible? do you diet and get lean then start from a lower body fat and add cals? i understand this dosent happen over night but when someone comes to this point how do you direct them?

[CrazyBaldhead]

prohormones are suplements you cant compare to the real stuff you dumbass.

How.can.you.be.so.mindboggingly.stupid?

[modredtrenton]

Lots of the current designer steroids on the market are REAL stuff....in fact, most cases more dangerous and toxic.

mechabol = methyl clostebol
Ultradrol = methyl stenbolone
Epistane = Epitiostanol

Those are all target hormones --- not precursors

For the products I have Tony....

AndroHard = DHT precursor
AndroLEAN = Target hormone (11-ketotestosterone)
AndroEnhance = (same as AndroLEAN, just topical)

What are your goals? Compete or train for recreation?

-Matt

my goal is to reach 8-10 percent bodyfat (right now i am 14-15) than up the dose from 400 t a week to what i can afford and maybe compete if everything works out well and i get big enough to compete around 215 pounds. i weigh 112 kg arms 49,5 calfes 47 quads 72 cm @ 5.7 . by the way prohormones are not legal in my country.

[Matt Porter]

my goal is to reach 8-10 percent bodyfat (right now i am 14-15) than up the dose from 400 t a week to what i can afford and maybe compete if everything works out well and i get big enough to compete around 215 pounds. i weigh 112 kg arms 49,5 calfes 47 quads 72 cm @ 5.7 . by the way prohormones are not legal in my country.

Just a diet issue then -- you can get to 8-10% with no T, 200 mg T, 400 mg T etc..... You can get their no worries than blast a bit from that leaner set point.

-Matt