Off-season condition and growing lean

[sanatarj]

Matt tony is a pure power of example and you have done a great job with him. As we get up there in years maintenance alone and forget about adding muscle for a minute is a grueling day in day out grind without med help. Tony's web site and blog are without question an inspiring thing just knowing this can be done. GREAT JOB

[Matt Porter]

whats the cialis used for? and what would a bodybuilder use it for anyway over all off season or pre contest?

I have researched this quite a bit and blood flow to penis and frequent erections and sexual intercourse will INCREASE testosterone levels so a PDE5 inhibitor like cialis or viagra could actually be healthy for a pct protocol as it can increase testosterone and aid in sexual function.

-Matt

[Matt Porter]

Matt tony is a pure power of example and you have done a great job with him. As we get up there in years maintenance alone and forget about adding muscle for a minute is a grueling day in day out grind without med help. Tony's web site and blog are without question an inspiring thing just knowing this can be done. GREAT JOB

Tony is a perfect example of the ideal 'student' or the most 'coachable" person. I have found the more ADVANCED guys that have done this for years and are pros or top level ams --- will always ask opinions of 100's of other people because they still think their are secrets or better ways to get the 'edge'!!!

If i tell them to add cardio or eat less carbs --- "But I will be too flat, I will lose muscle, I will have 2 days of carb refeed because I felt too flat" --- they care so much about "fullness" and are very hard to work with.

Amateurs, pros, beginners ALL need to follow a plan to the damn T -- do not hire someone if you are still doing slight tweaks and things your way -- either trust the coach or be coach-free.

-Matt

[intenceman]

Matt, what is your read on people who have dieted hard for long periods- say in excess of 16 weeks and feel that their "metabolism shut down". I feel they are just overtrained, over stressed and need to eat somewhat more normally and take a short break from the gym.

[mackdaddy567]

I have researched this quite a bit and blood flow to penis and frequent erections and sexual intercourse will INCREASE testosterone levels so a PDE5 inhibitor like cialis or viagra could actually be healthy for a pct protocol as it can increase testosterone and aid in sexual function.

-Matt

Thanks for replying, I'll have show this to my wife haha.

[Matt Porter]

Matt, what is your read on people who have dieted hard for long periods- say in excess of 16 weeks and feel that their "metabolism shut down". I feel they are just overtrained, over stressed and need to eat somewhat more normally and take a short break from the gym.

Yes -- the body stops responding and you need to take a week off to eat some clean carbs, and avoids cardio --- then re-approach everything again.

This happens all the time and peoples bodies start looking haggard and tired --- they dont 'pop' the muscles arent responding.

-matt

[Matt Porter]

Thanks for replying, I'll have show this to my wife haha.

After cialis induced erections........you will always want that amazing certainty that you will READY TO ROCK ....lol

-Matt

[smbarney]

Matt for someone like moosej how do structure there offseason after a show or diet. Obviously clean eating and no cheats but what about carbs n fat ?

[Matt Porter]

Matt for someone like moosej how do structure there offseason after a show or diet. Obviously clean eating and no cheats but what about carbs n fat ?

Have not spoken with him since show....

Had I taken over IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHOW --- I would have allowed him to cheat all Sunday after show --- then get his rebound out of the way starting Monday, low carbs, sodium back in equation, cardio etc....drain the fluid out....by Wednesday or Thursday he would be dry again and I would give him his off-season plan from that point.

Would put him on medium fats --- something like 80-90g and carbs on the lower side like 120-150g.

Would allow him 1 cheat meal a week and I would monitor his pictures EVERY SINGLE week to see the true story. He needs closer watch than someone like Bluerocket whom is staying shredded after 7 weeks and is eating around 4K cals (guy in this thread) --- but Bluerocket STILL check in with me WEEKLY.

I would also have MooseJ do cardio 4 times a week for 30 minutes.

I would have him run a thermogenic periodically....

-Matt

[smbarney]

Great advice thanks Matt

[smbarney]

2 ?s.
1. Would you still forgo carbs post workout with him ?

2. Does it natter when you do cardio?

[Matt Porter]

2 ?s.
1. Would you still forgo carbs post workout with him ?

2. Does it natter when you do cardio?

If he starts gaining too much BF --- then yes....at first no....since he is already lean from coming off prep diet.

I think in the morning from a low intensity stand point makes sense....

other times of day while fed --- doesnt matter

-Matt

[MEAT ROCKET]

Have not spoken with him since show....

Had I taken over IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHOW --- I would have allowed him to cheat all Sunday after show --- then get his rebound out of the way starting Monday, low carbs, sodium back in equation, cardio etc....drain the fluid out....by Wednesday or Thursday he would be dry again and I would give him his off-season plan from that point.

Would put him on medium fats --- something like 80-90g and carbs on the lower side like 120-150g.

Would allow him 1 cheat meal a week and I would monitor his pictures EVERY SINGLE week to see the true story. He needs closer watch than someone like Bluerocket whom is staying shredded after 7 weeks and is eating around 4K cals (guy in this thread) --- but Bluerocket STILL check in with me WEEKLY.

I would also have MooseJ do cardio 4 times a week for 30 minutes.

I would have him run a thermogenic periodically....

-Matt

Can you describe what you mean with periodically?

[geordz]

u say cheat meal once a week. what would a good example of ur style of cheat meal b like? i tend to go all out which is why im planning on only every 2nd week after my comp

[Matt Porter]

Can you describe what you mean with periodically?

throw in clen or ECA stack every 6 weeks and harden up a bit......

-Matt