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Originally posted by MURDERBEAST View Posthow would the anti E take away from ur gains?
Heard it can drain water from your body. I feel fuller and less joint pain when I dont use the anti E, so just going by feel
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6-24-11 Friday Trained triceps, biceps, shoulders. (20 mins cardio)
(219 lbs after 2 meals on scale)
Nonexistant routine. Inside elbow tendons real tender. Couldnt do shit. Will take anti
inflammatories and see what happens for next week, upper body. Either light training or none
for upper body. Unless shit heals, can never predict healing time but tendons are sore as
hell.:
Wide grip chin ups:
13 (stopped it tendons sore as fuck)
Alternate Dumbbell CUrls:
35x15
45x15 (not to failure, super light)
Incline Dumbbell Curls:
45x15
Cambered Bar Standing Curls:
90x30
90x30 (not to failure)
Dumbell Laterals:
45x25
Alternating DB CUrls
45x10
into
DB hammer curls
45x10
without rest
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Double Biceps Style Cable Curls:
70x20 (fucks with tendons)
Curved Bar Pressdowns:
70x100 warm
90x50 warm
150x30
150x30
150x40 (very light)
Dumbbell Laterals: (decided to just pump the delts, very light)
30x40
45x30
40x30
45x25
45x25
60x15
45x25
Superset:
35x40 (laterals)
into
Front raises
35x10
(no rest)
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Superset: (no rest)
35x25 (laterals)
into
35x10 (front raises)
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Superset: (no rest)
40x20 (laterals)
into
40x6 (front raises)
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Dumbbell laterals:
45x20
20 mins cardio
KILL SHITLast edited by Walking Beast; June 24, 2011, 08:36 PM.
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Originally posted by MURDERBEAST View Posthow would the anti E take away from ur gains?Originally posted by Walking Beast View PostHeard it can drain water from your body. I feel fuller and less joint pain when I dont use the anti E, so just going by feel
If you do run tren, most guys run test at a 2:1 ratio. Tren can cause libido issues and sexual performance issues and having more test going in helps tremendously. And you will want to run a thorough PCT when you come off....it shuts you down hard!
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Originally posted by Rjackd1 View PostIt doesn't drain water from your body per se -it keeps you from retaining a bunch of water that increased E2 (estradiol) would promote. So you stay less bloated and "puffy" looking when you're on cycle. Too much of any AI will dry you out so perhaps just cut back on the amount you're taking and see if that helps. One thing you will want to watch on tren should you decide to go that route is progestin.....tren has a VERY strong binding affinity to progesterone and can and will elevate prolactin. Cabergoline or bromocriptine will help lower prolactin levels....very smart to have one of those on hand before you run tren in case prolactin sides develop (an anti-E like adex will not help reduce progestin gyno).
If you do run tren, most guys run test at a 2:1 ratio. Tren can cause libido issues and sexual performance issues and having more test going in helps tremendously. And you will want to run a thorough PCT when you come off....it shuts you down hard!
KILLLLLL!!
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6-30-11 Thursday Legs,hamstrings, calves
(218 lbs after 2 meals)
No upper body training this week. Right elbow tendon healing slow as hell it seems. Will see how it feels next week. 20 mins in hot tub after leg session.
Hit a high of 223 lbs a few days ago fully fed. Eating has been inconsistant cuz when not trianing dont really give a fuck. Will see next week what happens:
Leg Press: (deep reps)
180x50 warm
400x25 warm
600x50 warm
700x50 warm
800x50
900x17 (right knee issues so cut it short)
700x60
700x60
Seated Calve Extention:
200x50
220x40
220x40
220x32
200x30
Seated Leg Curl:
115x20 warm
145x20
175x15
205x9
160x20
20 mins in hot tub
KILL SHIT
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Originally posted by Rjackd1 View PostIt doesn't drain water from your body per se -it keeps you from retaining a bunch of water that increased E2 (estradiol) would promote. So you stay less bloated and "puffy" looking when you're on cycle. Too much of any AI will dry you out so perhaps just cut back on the amount you're taking and see if that helps. One thing you will want to watch on tren should you decide to go that route is progestin.....tren has a VERY strong binding affinity to progesterone and can and will elevate prolactin. Cabergoline or bromocriptine will help lower prolactin levels....very smart to have one of those on hand before you run tren in case prolactin sides develop (an anti-E like adex will not help reduce progestin gyno).
If you do run tren, most guys run test at a 2:1 ratio. Tren can cause libido issues and sexual performance issues and having more test going in helps tremendously. And you will want to run a thorough PCT when you come off....it shuts you down hard!
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Originally posted by MURDERBEAST View Post20 min in hot tub sounds perfect after a leg session
Loosens shit up pretty good after a leg or back session
KILLLLLL THAT SHIT!!
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Originally posted by danthemanbatman View PostI've been hearing Prami is the best choice for keeping progesterone down
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Originally posted by danthemanbatman View PostI've been hearing Prami is the best choice for keeping progesterone downOriginally posted by Walking Beast View PostNice. Is the tren pretty anabolic at low doses?Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Postnever used it before....I think test's (anabolic?) rating is 100 whereas tren's is 500 so based on that and from experienced users tren makes one feel like a god
Yes, tren is anabolic as hell at any dosage. It's ridiculous. I wouldn't go above 200-225 mg/wk for a first run until you assess sides. Some guys get wrecked by it, while others don't get many bad sides at all.
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Sounds good. Not sure when my next cycle will be. Shit I dont even know when Ill train consistantly again. Whenever the time comes though, tren will likely be included in the next run. Right now my joints all feel dried out and fucking thrashed. Inside of right elbow especially. Plus this hand numbness and wrist pain ive had for over a year. Elbow tendons feel real inflamed though.
Was starting to feel strong again after my 6 month lay off so started to get crazy again. The usual cycle of violence. Need to regenerate again.
KILL THAT SHIT!!
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7-6-11 wednesday Trained legs, hamstrings, calves , outer thigh and some light shoulder work.
Some unexpected growth considering some of my days have been half eating and last week and a half no upper body training just legs. Chest was nearly 52 inches, 51 1/2 , up from 49 a few months ago after the lay off. Muscle memory but the 1/2 inch is new size. Legs were a little over 28 inches before training. Up from 27. 1/2 inch of it is new size. Abs were visibile again which they havent been in a while. So look to be pretty solid in the 220 range now.
After 6 months of on and off training I expected it to take longer to get back. Ran test at 900 mgs for last 2 months, almost done now, and some on and off liquid dbol. Taking prescription anti inflammatories for the joints and elbow tendon. See how it feels next week.
Also Ive decided to completely change my training. Back to an old style I used to train with my uncle when I was in my late teens. Very little rest between sets, almost continuous, with super setting various exercises together. Will have to build endurance back, but I think with my slower metabolism this lighter quicker style of training can work. Maybe finish in an hour or a little over. Rather then 3-6 hour sessions with long rest periods and massive volume. Need to try something new.
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(219 lbs after 2 meals)
Leg Press: (deep reps)
180x50 warm
400x30 warm
600x50 warm
Dumbbell laterals (get blood in upper body again):
30x50
Back to leg press:
700x70 (extended warm up)
DB lateral:
40x30
40x25
Leg press:
800x55
DB lateral:
40x30
Leg press:
900x50
1000x30 (knees starting to get some inflammation)
DB laterals:
40x30
Leg press:
800x40
DB laterals:
40x30
Leg press:
700x40
Seated Calve Extentions:
200x40
220x40
220x40
220x40
Dropset: (no rest between sets)
220x30
220x15
180x15
160x15
140x15
120x15
100x20
80x20
60x20
40x20
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Seated Leg Curl:
115x20 warm
145x15
160x15
160x15
160x15
Abductor machine:
145x20 warm
245x20
305x10 (stack)
260x10
230x15
15 mins in hot tub
KILL SHIT
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