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  • how would the anti E take away from ur gains?

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    • Originally posted by MURDERBEAST View Post
      how would the anti E take away from ur gains?

      Heard it can drain water from your body. I feel fuller and less joint pain when I dont use the anti E, so just going by feel
      Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
      Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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      • gotcha

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        • 6-24-11 Friday Trained triceps, biceps, shoulders. (20 mins cardio)


          (219 lbs after 2 meals on scale)


          Nonexistant routine. Inside elbow tendons real tender. Couldnt do shit. Will take anti
          inflammatories and see what happens for next week, upper body. Either light training or none
          for upper body. Unless shit heals, can never predict healing time but tendons are sore as
          hell.:


          Wide grip chin ups:

          13 (stopped it tendons sore as fuck)

          Alternate Dumbbell CUrls:

          35x15
          45x15 (not to failure, super light)

          Incline Dumbbell Curls:

          45x15

          Cambered Bar Standing Curls:

          90x30
          90x30 (not to failure)

          Dumbell Laterals:

          45x25

          Alternating DB CUrls

          45x10

          into

          DB hammer curls

          45x10

          without rest
          --------

          Double Biceps Style Cable Curls:

          70x20 (fucks with tendons)

          Curved Bar Pressdowns:

          70x100 warm
          90x50 warm
          150x30
          150x30
          150x40 (very light)


          Dumbbell Laterals: (decided to just pump the delts, very light)

          30x40
          45x30
          40x30
          45x25
          45x25
          60x15
          45x25

          Superset:

          35x40 (laterals)

          into

          Front raises

          35x10

          (no rest)

          -------

          Superset: (no rest)

          35x25 (laterals)

          into

          35x10 (front raises)

          --------

          Superset: (no rest)

          40x20 (laterals)

          into

          40x6 (front raises)

          ---------

          Dumbbell laterals:

          45x20


          20 mins cardio


          KILL SHIT
          Last edited by Walking Beast; June 24, 2011, 09:36 PM.
          Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
          Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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          • Originally posted by MURDERBEAST View Post
            how would the anti E take away from ur gains?
            Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
            Heard it can drain water from your body. I feel fuller and less joint pain when I dont use the anti E, so just going by feel
            It doesn't drain water from your body per se -it keeps you from retaining a bunch of water that increased E2 (estradiol) would promote. So you stay less bloated and "puffy" looking when you're on cycle. Too much of any AI will dry you out so perhaps just cut back on the amount you're taking and see if that helps. One thing you will want to watch on tren should you decide to go that route is progestin.....tren has a VERY strong binding affinity to progesterone and can and will elevate prolactin. Cabergoline or bromocriptine will help lower prolactin levels....very smart to have one of those on hand before you run tren in case prolactin sides develop (an anti-E like adex will not help reduce progestin gyno).

            If you do run tren, most guys run test at a 2:1 ratio. Tren can cause libido issues and sexual performance issues and having more test going in helps tremendously. And you will want to run a thorough PCT when you come off....it shuts you down hard!

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            • Originally posted by Rjackd1 View Post
              It doesn't drain water from your body per se -it keeps you from retaining a bunch of water that increased E2 (estradiol) would promote. So you stay less bloated and "puffy" looking when you're on cycle. Too much of any AI will dry you out so perhaps just cut back on the amount you're taking and see if that helps. One thing you will want to watch on tren should you decide to go that route is progestin.....tren has a VERY strong binding affinity to progesterone and can and will elevate prolactin. Cabergoline or bromocriptine will help lower prolactin levels....very smart to have one of those on hand before you run tren in case prolactin sides develop (an anti-E like adex will not help reduce progestin gyno).

              If you do run tren, most guys run test at a 2:1 ratio. Tren can cause libido issues and sexual performance issues and having more test going in helps tremendously. And you will want to run a thorough PCT when you come off....it shuts you down hard!
              Good to know. Appreciate that shit. Relatively new to running cycles though Ive been training 16 years. So can use all the information I can get. Never did much pct or liver support on the cycles I have run, since returning back from the 2 year lay off.

              KILLLLLL!!
              Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
              Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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              • 6-30-11 Thursday Legs,hamstrings, calves


                (218 lbs after 2 meals)

                No upper body training this week. Right elbow tendon healing slow as hell it seems. Will see how it feels next week. 20 mins in hot tub after leg session.

                Hit a high of 223 lbs a few days ago fully fed. Eating has been inconsistant cuz when not trianing dont really give a fuck. Will see next week what happens:

                Leg Press: (deep reps)

                180x50 warm
                400x25 warm
                600x50 warm
                700x50 warm
                800x50
                900x17 (right knee issues so cut it short)
                700x60
                700x60

                Seated Calve Extention:

                200x50
                220x40
                220x40
                220x32
                200x30

                Seated Leg Curl:

                115x20 warm
                145x20
                175x15
                205x9
                160x20

                20 mins in hot tub

                KILL SHIT
                Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                • 20 min in hot tub sounds perfect after a leg session

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                  • Originally posted by Rjackd1 View Post
                    It doesn't drain water from your body per se -it keeps you from retaining a bunch of water that increased E2 (estradiol) would promote. So you stay less bloated and "puffy" looking when you're on cycle. Too much of any AI will dry you out so perhaps just cut back on the amount you're taking and see if that helps. One thing you will want to watch on tren should you decide to go that route is progestin.....tren has a VERY strong binding affinity to progesterone and can and will elevate prolactin. Cabergoline or bromocriptine will help lower prolactin levels....very smart to have one of those on hand before you run tren in case prolactin sides develop (an anti-E like adex will not help reduce progestin gyno).

                    If you do run tren, most guys run test at a 2:1 ratio. Tren can cause libido issues and sexual performance issues and having more test going in helps tremendously. And you will want to run a thorough PCT when you come off....it shuts you down hard!
                    I've been hearing Prami is the best choice for keeping progesterone down

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                    • Originally posted by MURDERBEAST View Post
                      20 min in hot tub sounds perfect after a leg session

                      Loosens shit up pretty good after a leg or back session



                      KILLLLLL THAT SHIT!!
                      Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                      Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                      • Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Post
                        I've been hearing Prami is the best choice for keeping progesterone down
                        Nice. Is the tren pretty anabolic at low doses?
                        Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                        Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                        • Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
                          Nice. Is the tren pretty anabolic at low doses?
                          never used it before....I think test's (anabolic?) rating is 100 whereas tren's is 500 so based on that and from experienced users tren makes one feel like a god

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                          • Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Post
                            I've been hearing Prami is the best choice for keeping progesterone down
                            Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
                            Nice. Is the tren pretty anabolic at low doses?
                            Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Post
                            never used it before....I think test's (anabolic?) rating is 100 whereas tren's is 500 so based on that and from experienced users tren makes one feel like a god
                            Prami works too. There are 3-4 drugs that will help with progesterone....

                            Yes, tren is anabolic as hell at any dosage. It's ridiculous. I wouldn't go above 200-225 mg/wk for a first run until you assess sides. Some guys get wrecked by it, while others don't get many bad sides at all.

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                            • Sounds good. Not sure when my next cycle will be. Shit I dont even know when Ill train consistantly again. Whenever the time comes though, tren will likely be included in the next run. Right now my joints all feel dried out and fucking thrashed. Inside of right elbow especially. Plus this hand numbness and wrist pain ive had for over a year. Elbow tendons feel real inflamed though.

                              Was starting to feel strong again after my 6 month lay off so started to get crazy again. The usual cycle of violence. Need to regenerate again.

                              KILL THAT SHIT!!
                              Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                              Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                              • 7-6-11 wednesday Trained legs, hamstrings, calves , outer thigh and some light shoulder work.


                                Some unexpected growth considering some of my days have been half eating and last week and a half no upper body training just legs. Chest was nearly 52 inches, 51 1/2 , up from 49 a few months ago after the lay off. Muscle memory but the 1/2 inch is new size. Legs were a little over 28 inches before training. Up from 27. 1/2 inch of it is new size. Abs were visibile again which they havent been in a while. So look to be pretty solid in the 220 range now.

                                After 6 months of on and off training I expected it to take longer to get back. Ran test at 900 mgs for last 2 months, almost done now, and some on and off liquid dbol. Taking prescription anti inflammatories for the joints and elbow tendon. See how it feels next week.

                                Also Ive decided to completely change my training. Back to an old style I used to train with my uncle when I was in my late teens. Very little rest between sets, almost continuous, with super setting various exercises together. Will have to build endurance back, but I think with my slower metabolism this lighter quicker style of training can work. Maybe finish in an hour or a little over. Rather then 3-6 hour sessions with long rest periods and massive volume. Need to try something new.

                                :

                                (219 lbs after 2 meals)

                                Leg Press: (deep reps)

                                180x50 warm
                                400x30 warm
                                600x50 warm

                                Dumbbell laterals (get blood in upper body again):

                                30x50

                                Back to leg press:

                                700x70 (extended warm up)

                                DB lateral:

                                40x30
                                40x25

                                Leg press:

                                800x55

                                DB lateral:

                                40x30

                                Leg press:

                                900x50
                                1000x30 (knees starting to get some inflammation)

                                DB laterals:

                                40x30

                                Leg press:

                                800x40

                                DB laterals:

                                40x30

                                Leg press:

                                700x40

                                Seated Calve Extentions:

                                200x40
                                220x40
                                220x40
                                220x40

                                Dropset: (no rest between sets)

                                220x30
                                220x15
                                180x15
                                160x15
                                140x15
                                120x15
                                100x20
                                80x20
                                60x20
                                40x20
                                -------

                                Seated Leg Curl:

                                115x20 warm
                                145x15
                                160x15
                                160x15
                                160x15

                                Abductor machine:

                                145x20 warm
                                245x20
                                305x10 (stack)
                                260x10
                                230x15

                                15 mins in hot tub

                                KILL SHIT
                                Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                                Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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