Yes, you can get the cardio effect from very little rest times between sets, and high intensity. Most of the great bodybuilders in Arnold's time trained this way. They never did any cardio, and their gyms never had conventional cardio equipment for that matter. I don't know what you do for a living, but how do you spend your relaxation and down time? Are you a reader, watch movies? Or just lie awake in bed for the night praying for daytime, like I do most days.
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Originally posted by moreps View PostYes, you can get the cardio effect from very little rest times between sets, and high intensity. Most of the great bodybuilders in Arnold's time trained this way. They never did any cardio, and their gyms never had conventional cardio equipment for that matter. I don't know what you do for a living, but how do you spend your relaxation and down time? Are you a reader, watch movies? Or just lie awake in bed for the night praying for daytime, like I do most days.
Yea, I never really needed it. If I wanted to get lean then all I have to do is remove carbs, lower calories, or get massive anxiety. Once the anxiety gets past a certain threshold and becomes prolonged, no cardio can compete. During those periods I feel burning throughout my entire body and dont eat. Hunger doesnt bother me at all, I prefer it, but its neccesary to force shit down to grow.
My mind is relentless so I never get into a relaxed state. Even during sleep. There is a very high intensity that permeates every part of my being. If it wasnt in me I wouldnt even be able to do the shit I do, but given the way I am it is normal for me. If I was wired differently I would most likely do things in moderation with more balance, but it will never happen.
I take the edge off at certain points, and get into a more normal state for me. My normal would be someone elses complete meltdown. Killing time til death has always been my mindset. At points ive tried to accelerate the process, but then other reasons come into play. When in a wreckless state of mind anything can happen. I try to control it. The best method has been through brutal long training. At this point in my life I am more numb to most shit. I dont expend energy fighting against every little thought and thing anymore. I utilize that energy in ways where it is more useful for me. Since it is very limited. I used to fight all the mental demons, but at some point I embraced them. Then over time the noise became normal. I got sick of fighting myself nonstop , 24/7. That conflict wont end until im dead, but had to find ways to function within the chaos.
I dont watch tv and rarely movies. I have too much rage towards people. In the real world, seeing people can incite rage, just on sight. Its extreme. It always has been. Online is a different world. Im much more volatile and isolated in the real world. I keep people at a distance, like a poisonous animal. Invoking fear has always been something that I have fed off of. That was always a fire for my training as well. When things are fucked up, you find a release in fucked up goals and destructive activities. I am always ready to maul someone. Its a struggle to contain that.
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Arms
Lighter lower volume today. Was good considering my shoulders are still tore up. Left side of neck still has some strain from monday, but much better.
Just to see where my joints are at, I tested my shoulders with the nautilus overhead press with just 50 lbs. Even with that there is some pain in the shoulder joints. Considering I was pressing close to 600 a month or so ago on that machine, it shows they need some more recovery time.
So the main thing that will be cut down is most likely back and direct shoulder training. I think I will find a way to continue hitting my chest in some form. Back will be very difficult to train for now. This can change at any time though, its never predictable. Despite all the pain on monday I was still able to move some decent weight for reps on the smith inclines, just more slow and controlled with the pain.
Arms are still around 19 cold despite losing 10-15 lbs in the last month. When I start a growth phase soon I should be able to start it at around this size and leaner, so it should be a good base to expand on. Possibly in march or april. :
(211 lbs after meal)
Superset: (no rest til line)
Curved Bar Pressdowns (strict style)
Weight in KILOGRAMS for the tricep work only.
35x100 warm
into
35x15 alternating DB curls
into
72x30 pressdowns again
into
35x15 alt db curls
into
95x10 (Stack. Pressdowns again)
into
35x10 alt db curls
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Curved bar pressdowns
superset (no rest til line)
95x30
into
45x12 alt db curls
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Curved bar pressdowns
superset (no rest til line)
95 kilograms + 25 lb plate pinned to machine x30
into
55x10 alt db curls
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Curved bar pressdowns
superset (no rest til line)
95 kilograms + 25 lbs x20
into
60x8 alt db curls
into
45x6 hammer curls
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Alt db curls
40x11
Superset: (no rest til line)
Alt db curls
50x8
into
50x4 hammer curls
into
95 kilograms +25 lbs x15 (curved bar pressdowns)
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Superset (no rest til line) (pressdowns)
95 kilos + 25 lbs x10
into
40x12 alt db curl
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Curved bar pressdons
95x15
alt db curl
35x12
Strict V bar pressdowns
(KILOGRAMS for pressdowns)
65x20
Superset (no rest til line)
95x20 (pressdowns)
into
40x15 alt db curl
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Curved Bar Pressdowns (cant read which one)
95x25
Superset: (no rest til line)
Curved Bar pressdowns
95x35
into
50x14 alt db curl
into
65x3-4 db hammer curls (have to be careful with left shoulder strain)
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Alt db curls (shoulder acting up, just very light and slow to finish )
40x8
35x15
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Crazy arm workout! After a workout do you find that you are sedated? When you eat, does it contribute to easing your mind?
Sleep is very individual specific. I find going to sleep and staying asleep is a problem. There are good days, but more bad. I also find that when I can eat 4000-5000 calories on a day, I make way more progress. Eating "dirty" is great for muscle gains, but probably bad for cholesterol levels. However, if I keep my training intense, with plenty of rest and joint formula's like MSM, Chondroitin, and Glucosamine, and fish oil.... then I recover fine. I'm 58 years old, 159 lbs. and still lift heavy as hell but get a lot of rest. Sometimes 3 days between sessions. I'm deadlifting 365 for 4 reps, and that's a hella lot for an ectomorph like me. Love reading your shit Beast!!! Thanks for the continued inspiration!
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Originally posted by moreps View PostCrazy arm workout! After a workout do you find that you are sedated? When you eat, does it contribute to easing your mind?
Sleep is very individual specific. I find going to sleep and staying asleep is a problem. There are good days, but more bad. I also find that when I can eat 4000-5000 calories on a day, I make way more progress. Eating "dirty" is great for muscle gains, but probably bad for cholesterol levels. However, if I keep my training intense, with plenty of rest and joint formula's like MSM, Chondroitin, and Glucosamine, and fish oil.... then I recover fine. I'm 58 years old, 159 lbs. and still lift heavy as hell but get a lot of rest. Sometimes 3 days between sessions. I'm deadlifting 365 for 4 reps, and that's a hella lot for an ectomorph like me. Love reading your shit Beast!!! Thanks for the continued inspiration!
Not really any different then usual afterwards. My energy levels are so fucked anyway. I will get very brief energy spikes from stimulants and the adrenaline of training, but even during I have to find alot of mental drive to get through the longer sessions. The stimulants hardly work anymore, and too much just makes me dizzy and is worthless.
Food is more suffocating to me. Due to my nerves I really hate to eat. Some meals are more satisfying then others, maybe one meal at most is satisfying. A heavier carb meal but doesnt help my energy levels.
Apparently my sleep is the type of shit that kills rats within 21 days. According to my doctor regarding my sleep test results. No REM sleep, no deep sleep, only superficial sleep. No sleep apnea showed but I also just basically lied awake there for 8 hours.
Eating "dirty" works extremely well if you have trouble getting high calories clean, or dont have the capacity to fit that much clean food. Health wise I wouldnt know.
I will take 3 days between sessions too sometimes. I dont have any set rules anymore. I have a good feel for what is effective at this point.
Nice work on the deadlifts.
Glad that you get something from this journal. Appreciate the feedback, always.
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Have you tried any natural testosterone boosters? I've done CORE Test, and in about 3 weeks I noticed increased aggression, strength and endurance improvements, fat loss, and a higher sex drive. Better vascularity also. I'm going to stack this with a good trib product in another week and see what happens. Trib always made me super aggressive, and people around me classified me as being more of an asshole. LOL. I am hoping your joints are feeling better today...
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Originally posted by moreps View PostHave you tried any natural testosterone boosters? I've done CORE Test, and in about 3 weeks I noticed increased aggression, strength and endurance improvements, fat loss, and a higher sex drive. Better vascularity also. I'm going to stack this with a good trib product in another week and see what happens. Trib always made me super aggressive, and people around me classified me as being more of an asshole. LOL. I am hoping your joints are feeling better today...
My joints were really shitty today. I only got through a few sets of chest and had to leave. I will figure out something though. I am stubborn as fuck
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Haha, awesome... Do you ever do any DB work for chest and delts? They seem more shoulder friendly. I can't bench anymore with a bar, nor do any shoulder overhead presses, but DB's seems to work very well. You are basically working with your range of motion, rather than the machine's or a fixed bar. Weighted dips are also a movement that allows me to build size in my delts, traps, chest, and it also works the intercostals and abs. Squat for the upper body - Weighted Dips...I hope your joints are feeling better. What joint care supps have you tried? Any success with em?
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Originally posted by moreps View PostHaha, awesome... Do you ever do any DB work for chest and delts? They seem more shoulder friendly. I can't bench anymore with a bar, nor do any shoulder overhead presses, but DB's seems to work very well. You are basically working with your range of motion, rather than the machine's or a fixed bar. Weighted dips are also a movement that allows me to build size in my delts, traps, chest, and it also works the intercostals and abs. Squat for the upper body - Weighted Dips...I hope your joints are feeling better. What joint care supps have you tried? Any success with em?
DB side laterals are really the only db work that still remains for shoulders directly. My front delts grow off of all the pressing work from chest. Especially since I do almost purely incline movements now for chest.
DBs have more risk for me to get injured while getting them into position, with the wrists and throwing them back, and offer much less resistance then barbells and machines for me. Even if I had access to 150s or 160s again, that is still only 300 to 320 lbs of free weight resistance. With a barbell or machine I can get much more weight loaded up and dont have to move them around and throw them up each set (I train high volume). So they have never been a major part of my chest training.
DBs are a possibility since I have to keep finding what angles I can hit that dont destroy my joints. I used to do weighted dips but with my elbows and shoulders its not worth it. I get much more resistance with heavy barbell presses or machine work, since I overload machines.
Its very individual though. Based on your structure. So you have to find what angles work for you and your injuries as you know. I never had any success with joint supplements. I tried glucosamine at times but never stuck with it.
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Arms
Some more light low volume training for arms. This is just to maintain the size for now. If things go as planned I will hit another growth phase by march. So until then its maintenance.
I am still limited to arms and legs training only. I will try to do something for chest next week maybe. Or just let my shoulders heal. Both shoulders still have pain when I try to press any amount of weight, so they are not ready yet. :
(209 lbs before meals)
Curved Bar pressdowns
All tricep work is listed in Kilograms
35x100 warm
65x30 warm
80x30 warm
Superset (no rest til line)
Alt db curls
35x15 warm
into
95x20-25 (curved bar pressdowns)
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Same superset (no rest)
95x20 (curved bar pd)
into
40x20 alt db curl
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Same superset (no rest)
50x10 alt db curls
into
95x35 (curved bar pressdowns)
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alt db curls
45x10
Superset (no rest til line)
95x37 (curved bar pressdowns)
into
55x8 alt db curl
into
55x5 hammer curls
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Superset: (no rest)
95x25 curved bar pd
into
55x8 alt db curl
into
55x5 hammer curls
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alt db curls
60x6
incline db curls
45x12
Superset (no rest til line)
55x7 alt db curl
into
55x2 hammer curls
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alt db curls
40x12
superset (no rest)
50x7 alt db curl
into
50x7 hammers
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superset (no rest til line)
95x31
into
45x10 alt db curl
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curved bar pd
95x21
alt db curl
40x15
45x9
Curved bar pd
95x34
alt db curl
45x9
curved bar pd
95x15 (joints acting up)
With the curls especially, mostly slower reps and held contractions, with a focus on pump and moving fast between sets
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Back and a few sets of laterals
Very light rehab work. Priming myself for a planned growth phase in march, most likely.
Shoulders have been very achy lately. I have been fucking around with the 25 lb dumbbells I have here , doing 50-90 rep supersets ever day. Up to 6 of those. Sounds worthless, but seems to be rehabbing my joints a little and getting them ready again. Arm also hit 19 cold, other arm is only like 18 3/8, almost an inch smaller. Thats the side that has more strain. So even that light shit gave my arm an extra 1/4 inch fullness cold. Not bad for me, for my small phase. Usually during my lighter bodyweight phase my arms will be in the low 18s. I will continue fucking around with those little dumbbells during the day. The superset is basically 30 side laterals into 30 curls into 30 rows, it varies though. No rules. I just feel out my joint pain.
Tried a new exercise today. Dual dumbbell rows. Laying on incline bench with full stretch to floor and all the way up, holding reps as well. Using a palms facing grip on rowing exercises seems to be much less strain on my shoulders. Thats about all I can do right now, so everything today was using that grip.
Its good to see I can work my way back into some kind of rowing work again. So it looks like adding chest work back in will be the main challenge, but the joints seem to be slowly healing so it may not be a huge issue. Likely during my next growth phase will be more bodybuilding style. It would be better I avoid 580+ lb machine shoulder and incline hammer presses this time around. Even heavy smith is a bad idea. Of course I am fucked in the head, so the minute shit feels a little better training becomes violent.:
(213 lbs after 2 meals)
New Exercise (very little pain today)
Dual Dumbbell Rows On Incline Bench (Palms facing) (chest on bench): (full stretch and holds at the top on most sets)
30's x30 warm
into
60x10 (no rest)
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75x12 (rows)
into
30x18 (db laterals)
no rest
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100x12 (rows)
into
45x15 (laterals)
no rest
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120's x8 (row)
into
40x25 (laterals)
no rest
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straight sets, dual rows
120x8
120x8
75x12 (longer holds)
Some sets were just regular speed with full stretch, others were held for longer.
Luckily this palms facing grip isnt fucking with my shoulders too much.
This exercise was quite good. I havent been able to incorporate DB rows (one handed) in years due to all the strain they bring (was going up to 210 lbs with my custom handle). Used to constantly fuck my shoulders and torque my back with those. Doing two dumbbells at once allows me to bring a free weight back movement back into the mix, with no back strain. 125 per side is the max I can use at this gym, if I need to ill slow and hold for very long to compensate, when my joints heal more.
DB Laterals
35x30
Low Cable Rows (Very light with long holds on each rep)
120x20
135x15
150x15 (didnt want to fuck with shoulder)
Free Motion Row
(long holds)
80x15 warm
140x15
150x12
160x10
db lateral
40x25
Free motion row
170x15
db lateral
35x20
free motion row
210x12
And looks like I forgot to list one of my exercises, so off of memory:
Cybex pin loaded dual axis pulldown
pyramiding up to 210 for 12-15 held reps, I believe. Maybe 4 or 5 sets total.
Lat pulldown with parallel grip, wide parallel
120x12 (holds, shoulder strain coming back, backed off)
This whole session was basically a warm up anyway, but its a good primer. I should be able to set myself up for another full growth phase soon
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Legs
Another lighter low volume Primer, for the upcoming growth phase. I just wanted to get some blood in the legs and knees and try to get my joints ready for some heavier work in the upcoming growth phase. Going over 800 lbs was a bad idea since my knees were already beat up upon arrival but that is to be expected.
I tried hammerstrength decline machine to see where my joints are at for pressing. I may be able to work pressing back, with declines. They may be easier on my joints. I havent done decline movements in years. I will likely avoid all pressing and chest work until my growth phase in march. Its possible Ill try it in the next few weeks.
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(212 lbs after meal)
Leg extention
110x60 warm
150x40 warm
210x25
210x20
210x20
Knees tore up, not to failure
Leg curl (hamstrings tight as fuck)
95x25 warm
125x20
155x15
185x8
155x15
Leg press (knee wraps for 500 and up, knee pain like usual)
300x70 warm
500x60 warm
700x60
800x55
900x40
Seated calve extention
135x50
180x30
180x40
180x30
180x30
180x30
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Arms
Some more light and lower volume maintenance today. Took 100 mgs tramadol preworkout. Not for the session specifically. Whenever I take 100 mgs pre workout I do notice alot less pain in all my joints though. Everything feels smooth. Regardless I didnt want to push it, as it can be decieving.
I just want to keep as much size as I can retain for my growth phase which will possibly be in march. Maybe I will use the tramadol at 100 mgs to train chest if these shoulders dont heal up by then.
I started eating around 200 protein again. During the recent strains I backed off. When I dont train I dont eat regularly. Otherwise I find I just put on garbage weight.:
(215 lbs after previous nights meals)
V Bar Pressdowns (strict. Curved bar was missing)
Triceps exercises are listed in kilograms
Superset(no rest til line)
35x100 warm
65x20 warm
into
35x25 alt db curl (warm)
into
50x5 hammer curls
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Same superset: (no rest til line)
95x31
into
50x10 alt db curl
into
60x5 hammer curls
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incline dumbbell curls
55x12
Superset: (no rest til line)
95x25 (v bar pd again)
into
60x8 incline db curls
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alt db curl
50x8
Superset: (no rest til line)
95 +25 lb plate stacked on (the 95 is kilograms)x16
into
50x10 incl db curl
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(v bar pd again)
95 kilo +25 lbs x12
95x20
95x17
alt db curl
55x8
superset (no rest til line)
v bars
95x30
into
60x9 alt db curls
into
60x3 hammer curls
superset no rest til line
db laterals
35x25 (warm up, then decided against laterals today, shoulder joints need rest)
into
35x8 alt db curl
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Very fast moving between sets and supersets, just a pump and maintenence day
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Trained this week but it was just MINIMUM maintenance shit. My fucking upper body is thrashed. Nerve damage type of shit and shoulders real torn up. The machine presses up to 580 and the rampage of the previous 6 plus months took a toll. Especially since I was torn up as hell before I went on my usual spree.
So I will have to see what I need to do to recover, or when the time comes I will just plow through all the pain and damage and grow some more. I havent decided yet. Each day and week things can change, including my mindset. The longer Im out of training the more violent I get
Here is the weeks sessions though (next week maybe I will back off, cant say)
Monday was attempted chest training. Only a few sets. Shoulders were fucking thrashed, feel out of alignment. Tingling in my upper spine into legs and face. This is not completely uncommon for me. Inflammation is definately bad though. I assume with time it would heal as everything else stabilises enough to train hard again, with time, in my experience. Including my four ruptured disks. The low dose painkillers that I run daily do almost nothing for this. Its not the pain that is the issue for me though, but the damage. If I am too greedy with training and ignore the pain I will start severing disks and tendons again, which could set me back again.
Its strange going from pressing 580 lbs on the machine to having pain with 2 plates a side on the hammerstrength machines. It definately puts shit into perspective, when I thought I was so weak before, that with the gradual progression I am unable to see what I am becoming and it becomes normal over the course of many years. It puts things into perspective, until I re emerge into fucking beast mode again. Stronger and fiercer with each ressurection.
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Back on tuesday
Lots of tinging in back of shoulders, back , right
upper leg, face, etc. Shoulders are getting bad.
Upper back tight as fuck as well. Didnt last long.
Finished with a headache. May need to just back
off training for a while:
Dual DB Rows: (on incline bench, palms facing)
50x30
80x21
100x12
100x15 (all sets held except maybe final set)
Low cable row (all sets held and slow)
120x20
165x18
195x12
Done. Alot of pain and tingling. Decided it was best to back off for now and strike when the time is right
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