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  • END OF GROWTH PHASE RESULTS:


    19 1/4 INCH RIGHT ARM FLEXED (17 INCH RELAXED, STRAIGHT ARM)

    27 INCH LEGS (27 1/2 LAST WEEK)

    53 INCH CHEST COLD, 51 RELAXED

    57 AND HALF INCH SHOULDERS COLD

    WAIST 37 1/2 AROUND WAISTLINE, 40 AROUND NAVEL

    NECK 18


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    JUST A QUICK RUN DOWN OF THE RESULTS. MOST OF IT WAS MUSCLE MEMORY GAINS, AND REFINING WITHOUT GETTING SUPER SLOPPY THIS TIME.

    MY 242 MEASUREMENTS WERE 19 1/2 INCH ARMS, 53 1/4 INCH CHEST, 29 INCH LEGS, BUT WITH A 44-46 INCH NAVEL MEASUREMENT AND A 42 WAIST MEASUREMENT.

    SO THESE MEASUREMENTS ARE CLOSE BUT ALOT LEANER. STILL NOT LEAN BUT MUCH BETTER.

    MY BODYWEIGHT MAY BE AROUND 212-214 NAKED. HARD TO TELL DUE TO MY SHITTY HOME SCALES.

    SO IT MAY BE ABOUT 30 LBS LIGHTER WITH VERY CLOSE MUSCULAR MEASUREMENTS TO THE 242 SLOPPY GROWTH PHASE.

    MY WAIST MEASUREMENTS MATCH WHERE I WAS AT WHEN I WAS STRONGEST ON FLAT BENCHING (WHICH I STOPPED DOING THE MOVEMENT LATER)

    WITH 225X52, 275X30, 315X23,340X12,365X8 AND 405X1 ALL IN THE SAME SESSION. DURING MY SUPER DROL 3 WEEK CYCLE.

    SO IM A GOOD DEAL LARGER NOW BUT DONT EVEN BENCH ANYMORE AT THIS MOMENT.




    HERE IS A RUN DOWN OF MY MEASUREMENTS ON MY LAST CHART IN MAY 2010, DURING THE SUPER DROL PERIOD

    205 LBS NAKED

    NECK 18

    BICEPS 18 1/2 (3/4 INCH INCREASE)

    SHOULDERS 55 1/2 (2 INCHES INCREASE CURRENTLY)

    CHEST 51 (THIS IS MY RELAXED MEASUREMENT NOW, AND FLEXED 53)

    WAIST 38 1/8 WAISTLINE (ITS ACTUALLY A LITTLE LOWER CURRENTLY) 39 1/2 AROUND NAVEL

    QUADS 26 1/2 (WAS AN INCH HIGHER LAST WEEK, HAS BEEN BIGGER BEFORE AS WELL)

    BECAUSE OF MY STRENGTH DURING THIS PERIOD I CONSIDERED IT A PEAK TIME FOR ME. AS I MOVED AWAY FROM BENCHING THOUGH AND MORE FOCUS ON SIZE I HAVE BEEN GETTING LARGER AS SHOWN BY THE RESULTS.

    SO SLOWLY PROGRESS IS INCREASING ON A VERY INCREMENTAL BASIS

    -----------------------------------

    CURRENTLY I AM TAKING THIS WEEK OFF FROM TRAINING MOST LIKELY, AND TAKING FAT BURNERS AND TAKING A FUCKING VACATION FROM EATING TOO. JUST EATING WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT BASICALLY, NOT TOO CONCERNED WITH PROTEIN JUST CUTTING CALORIES DOWN ALOT TO LEAN OUT.

    I WILL REBUILD IN A MONTH OR TWO MOST LIKELY, FROM A CLEANER SLATE. SO MY RESULTS WILL BE MORE PRONOUNCED THEN. MY MUSCLE MEMORY IS QUICK SO IM NOT TOO CONCERNED WITH LEANING OUT "PROPERLY" AT THIS POINT

    KILLLLL THAT SHIT
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    • HERE ARE SOME SUPERDROL PHASE REFFERRANCE PICTURES FROM 2010 AROUND MARCH I BELIEVE








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      • SO IM A GOOD DEAL LARGER AT THE MOMENT WITH VERY SIMILIAR WAIST AND NAVEL MEASUREMENTS (BODY COMPOSITION)
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        • Yea either its because the camera is closer or whatever but it looks like your current self could eat your former self...good shit

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          • Originally posted by renos View Post
            Yea either its because the camera is closer or whatever but it looks like your current self could eat your former self...good shit


            Appreciate that shit



            I tend to use the same camera angles so it shouldnt make too much of a difference. That might be the case with my measurements after about 2 years training (prior to that I have no recorded measurements), where I was around 150 with 39 inch chest (my waist is the size of my relaxed chest measurement then) , Shoulder measurement 43, and 14 inch arms. (1997)

            And in the beginning around 105-115 lbs I estimate, but didnt measure back then.

            KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT!!
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            • You can see some differences in back measurement over the years (where I tend to carry most of my mass)

              180 lbs (during my return from a 2 year lay off)



              Around 210 here I believe





              Current (227 lbs)





              Alot of limitations with training currently but SHIT MUST DIE regardless
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              • Dude, I haven't been up to date with what's going on with you...so how are the joints etc? Before I could literally FEEL the aches and pains especially as your weights went down. So what's the status? Can you put a percentage on that? Also-I forget...why were you so skinny when you were younger? Cause you look like you build muscle easily. Some of the biggest lats/traps/delts I've seen srs nohomo.

                Steady killin' shit errytime I clock in.

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                • Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Post
                  Dude, I haven't been up to date with what's going on with you...so how are the joints etc? Before I could literally FEEL the aches and pains especially as your weights went down. So what's the status? Can you put a percentage on that? Also-I forget...why were you so skinny when you were younger? Cause you look like you build muscle easily. Some of the biggest lats/traps/delts I've seen srs nohomo.

                  Steady killin' shit errytime I clock in.

                  Appreciate that shit brother


                  Ive been able to work around the wrist and shoulder issues. They have definately been limiting, compared to the weight I used to throw around regularly. Its greatly reduced at the moment and have been hitting the movements that I can as intensely as possible.

                  Much more bodybuilding style lately. Just contract the shit out of the muscles and tear them up with constant pump, low rest between sets, and strong held contractions on alot of movements. The size training has definately been working to add more size despite not pushing my strength limits lately.

                  I should be able to continue like this for a while. If and when the joints heal more I can start hitting heavier work again. Maybe my lifts right now are at 75 percent or so. Difficult to say as it varies by muscle and movement. Alot of that is due to joints and tendons limiting strength and not the muscle itself.

                  I was using 580 for a single on the hammer strength inclines, at the end of the pyramid of sets to failure. Recently I hit 450 for 5 and half. Where as I was getting it for 16 and half, maybe 20 fresh.

                  With back im training way lighter as well. Focusing on pump and strong cramping contractions with the lats, and everything else has made a big difference for size. Less rest between sets as well. Just pump the shit out of everything with high volume/ high intensity

                  When I was younger I used to just not eat. I didnt have the desire with insane nerves/ anxiety. For me survival wasnt a good reason. Id do it only when I was really hungry, then binge on garbage. I believe when I was 10 or 11 I was only 60 lbs or so.

                  Once I started training I had a reason to force feed. So thats the only reason I did it. Thats why I lose weight so easily. Eating less is a vacation for me. Eating is the part that I despise with training. I really only like to train brutally heavy. Everythiing else that goes with it is very monotonous to me. Neccesary to add muscle though.

                  Very fast metabolism back then. Ive never put on size easily at all. Its just been a nearly 2 decade process. With 2 years out of training mid way through. The gradual accumulation really adds up though when doing it for so long. Ive trained non stop aside from that 2 year lay off and a few other brief on and off periods. So its just cumulative.

                  The times when I made gains quicker was usually just muscle memory and regaining old size. Other than that its very gradual. I had a 4 year period where I gained no size at all once I started pushing my natural limits. At around 185 or so. The process has been painfully slow at times but keeping focused on the end results helped me to block out the state I was in , physically, even mentally.




                  KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT!!
                  Last edited by Walking Beast; May 1, 2013, 03:10 AM.
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                  Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                  • Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
                    Appreciate that shit brother


                    Ive been able to work around the wrist and shoulder issues. They have definately been limiting, compared to the weight I used to throw around regularly. Its greatly reduced at the moment and have been hitting the movements that I can as intensely as possible.

                    Much more bodybuilding style lately. Just contract the shit out of the muscles and tear them up with constant pump, low rest between sets, and strong held contractions on alot of movements. The size training has definately been working to add more size despite not pushing my strength limits lately.

                    I should be able to continue like this for a while. If and when the joints heal more I can start hitting heavier work again. Maybe my lifts right now are at 75 percent or so. Difficult to say as it varies by muscle and movement. Alot of that is due to joints and tendons limiting strength and not the muscle itself.

                    I was using 580 for a single on the hammer strength inclines, at the end of the pyramid of sets to failure. Recently I hit 450 for 5 and half. Where as I was getting it for 16 and half, maybe 20 fresh.

                    With back im training way lighter as well. Focusing on pump and strong cramping contractions with the lats, and everything else has made a big difference for size. Less rest between sets as well. Just pump the shit out of everything with high volume/ high intensity

                    When I was younger I used to just not eat. I didnt have the desire with insane nerves/ anxiety. For me survival wasnt a good reason. Id do it only when I was really hungry, then binge on garbage. I believe when I was 10 or 11 I was only 60 lbs or so.

                    Once I started training I had a reason to force feed. So thats the only reason I did it. Thats why I lose weight so easily. Eating less is a vacation for me. Eating is the part that I despise with training. I really only like to train brutally heavy. Everythiing else that goes with it is very monotonous to me. Neccesary to add muscle though.

                    Very fast metabolism back then. Ive never put on size easily at all. Its just been a nearly 2 decade process. With 2 years out of training mid way through. The gradual accumulation really adds up though when doing it for so long. Ive trained non stop aside from that 2 year lay off and a few other brief on and off periods. So its just cumulative.

                    The times when I made gains quicker was usually just muscle memory and regaining old size. Other than that its very gradual. I had a 4 year period where I gained no size at all once I started pushing my natural limits. At around 185 or so. The process has been painfully slow at times but keeping focused on the end results helped me to block out the state I was in , physically, even mentally.




                    KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT!!
                    Figured you'd be up at this hour...How're the elbows, though? My wrists feel shitty too tbh. I lost my wrist wraps at the gym and not lifting heavy enough currently to warrant them. Also despise eating/feeling full. Been eating once/day so props for maintaining size/gains. Just can't get in the eating mode. I was anorexic at one point and while recovering and shortly after ate copious amounts of food. So personally, checked my ego and am hitting very high reps as heavy as I can go, currently. Weigh 176lbs (yes small) but do 85s for incline db presses/20 reps. So, eh. Don't lift too light for most skinny natties. Was 220 this time last year at 5'9". One of my best accomplishments...anyway, why do singles on machine presses? Don't get that...

                    KILLIN' SHIT SO HARD I TACKLE MOFUCKAS PLAIN' FLAG FOOTBALL!!!!

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                    • Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Post
                      Figured you'd be up at this hour...How're the elbows, though? My wrists feel shitty too tbh. I lost my wrist wraps at the gym and not lifting heavy enough currently to warrant them. Also despise eating/feeling full. Been eating once/day so props for maintaining size/gains. Just can't get in the eating mode. I was anorexic at one point and while recovering and shortly after ate copious amounts of food. So personally, checked my ego and am hitting very high reps as heavy as I can go, currently. Weigh 176lbs (yes small) but do 85s for incline db presses/20 reps. So, eh. Don't lift too light for most skinny natties. Was 220 this time last year at 5'9". One of my best accomplishments...anyway, why do singles on machine presses? Don't get that...

                      KILLIN' SHIT SO HARD I TACKLE MOFUCKAS PLAIN' FLAG FOOTBALL!!!!



                      Always


                      Elbows have been ok. I havent been using elbow sleeves lately. Since what Im doing now is so much lighter. Shoulders and wrists seem to be gradually getting better. Ive had numbness in both hands for over 2 years now. Likely some type of nerve damage in spine along with carpal tunnel. So it will likely always be an issue at this point.

                      The elbows havent been limiting me too much lately. Its mostly my shoulders at the moment that really limit my rowing and pressing movements (the most essential size building work for upper body).

                      For some reason there was a large loss in strength in pressing movements beyond that period where I was going very heavy on hammer strength presses recently. I think that the joint may need some recovery time, as I hit 270 for 70 something or 80 something reps (rest pause, constant tension style) on the hammer strength incline just last week. Though the heavier weights caused more issue. I think that alot of the strength is still there but its limited by the joints and tendons now.

                      Ive been finding that training around the strains with other movements , the ones that cause less strain, has been working to heal the shit up. Especially heavy flies for chest while holding the handles together for long periods.

                      Strong work with the db presses, especially at that weight. Clearly you know how to add size and strength to get to that point. I know how it is to get to a higher point then lose it all. Its a mind fuck. Especially when you werent satisfied with your peak. To be below that point fucks with you even more. There is no satisfaction for me with anything in this life. So its a destructive cycle, but its better than the alternatives, for me.

                      Yes I fucking hate to eat. Despise it. I have more issues now with constant acid and throat tightness , that makes it a more painful process then in the past. My stomach has always been fucked up too, from nerves. I hate the whole fucking thing. Its very forced for me. I only like to train brutally heavy for many hours, and like I said, DESPISE the rest of the process. I just look at it as something that needs to be done, for my mind. Otherwise things become very dark and violent, very grim and suffocating, in my mind. This is how I keep my demons somewhat at bay.

                      Well, as you might have noticed its primarily the vent that I train for. Not for what seems logical or makes sense ultimately, results wise. When I am in that violent frenzy I just push myself to limits. I tend to pyramid through the full range of reps and exhaust myself more with each set. Though I have a very high muscle endurance. So I will pyramid up in weight for each set. Then at the top of that pyramid I may only hit 1 rep or a few depending how heavy I go.

                      Its also a mental boost for me. To overcome a new weight. It then further drives my intensity and ferocity through the session and beyond. So it feeds into that agression ultimately, further igniting it.

                      Its a result of pushing each set to failure and continuing to increase the weight. Right now Im backing off from that and trying to back off from that mentality as well. Just to build for now. Later as I heal more I will get more destructive, its inevitable

                      KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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                      • EXCLUSIVE NEVER BEFORE SEEN!!



                        KILL EM

                        N

                        GRILL EM!!
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                        • Originally posted by danthemanbatman View Post
                          Figured you'd be up at this hour...How're the elbows, though? My wrists feel shitty too tbh. I lost my wrist wraps at the gym and not lifting heavy enough currently to warrant them. Also despise eating/feeling full. Been eating once/day so props for maintaining size/gains. Just can't get in the eating mode. I was anorexic at one point and while recovering and shortly after ate copious amounts of food. So personally, checked my ego and am hitting very high reps as heavy as I can go, currently. Weigh 176lbs (yes small) but do 85s for incline db presses/20 reps. So, eh. Don't lift too light for most skinny natties. Was 220 this time last year at 5'9". One of my best accomplishments...anyway, why do singles on machine presses? Don't get that...

                          KILLIN' SHIT SO HARD I TACKLE MOFUCKAS PLAIN' FLAG FOOTBALL!!!!
                          I'm also around the 175lbs area at between 5'9"-5'10". I've done a lot of cardio since and injured my back like beast did. My heaviest I was getting close to 230lbs then moved down to 200lbs. Now I just train lighter.

                          I don't know about you but at my height anything in excess of 210lbs was starting to take a toll. I don't know if it was me but at 5'9" and 220lbs+ I didn't have much energy but I didn't do much cardio like now either.

                          Now I just am smaller and leaner. Funny that you mention feeling full bc before I'd force feed even during the night but now I hate the feeling of being full or bloated. I just eat enough to not be too hungry. Probably bc I've yo-yo alot in weight and I'm pretty much set on being smaller and lighter permanently. My back pain has also improved since dropping weight. Did it natural the whole time. For awhile I didn't even do weight training and was stuck at 189lbs. I literally had to starve to get to 175lbs. My weight just wouldn't go down to the longest time

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                          • Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
                            EXCLUSIVE NEVER BEFORE SEEN!!



                            KILL EM

                            N

                            GRILL EM!!
                            Lethal......

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                            • Originally posted by ChromeHearts View Post
                              I'm also around the 175lbs area at between 5'9"-5'10". I've done a lot of cardio since and injured my back like beast did. My heaviest I was getting close to 230lbs then moved down to 200lbs. Now I just train lighter.

                              I don't know about you but at my height anything in excess of 210lbs was starting to take a toll. I don't know if it was me but at 5'9" and 220lbs+ I didn't have much energy but I didn't do much cardio like now either.

                              Now I just am smaller and leaner. Funny that you mention feeling full bc before I'd force feed even during the night but now I hate the feeling of being full or bloated. I just eat enough to not be too hungry. Probably bc I've yo-yo alot in weight and I'm pretty much set on being smaller and lighter permanently. My back pain has also improved since dropping weight. Did it natural the whole time. For awhile I didn't even do weight training and was stuck at 189lbs. I literally had to starve to get to 175lbs. My weight just wouldn't go down to the longest time

                              For a while I never knew my height, because I never measured. At one point I thought I was really 5'5 or 5'6 since I always have this image in my mind of being real small. So I measured in the garage putting a mark on the wall. It said 5'6. Then i did it with a steel tape in the bathroom and it was 5'8. So that is probably the most accurate measurement. Marking on the wall is difficult to mark it right. I took an interest in my height at some point, just to be able to get a vague idea of the amount of muscle I was carrying. As being shorter means you are carrying more muscle (given same body composition).

                              Ive done so much damage to myself, aside from rupturing disks, that my energy levels have been fucked for many years. Even in the 180s and earlier. On my way back after the 2 year lay off as well, when I was maybe 157. So that is a constant for me. Id say that it has something to do with burning out adrenal glands or some shit like that. Ive never been able to shut down that intensity, anxiety my entire life. For someone else it would be like a constant super awareness, panic attack type of state, and in itself is extremely draining, without all the physical abuse Ive done to myself, to block it out. There is just a very extreme intensity that doesnt shut off and is a constant with me. Constant obsessions, racing thoughts that dont silence. A reason I wanted to blow my fucking brains out before I embraced it and accepted what I am.

                              Im not sure how low my weight will go if I just dont care about food. My metabolism is much slower now, so even in 2 years I may not regress back to 157. I will easily get down to 205 or 200 by not force feeding. Losing muscle too. 180 or 190 would be very light for me now, but it might happen over a prolonged period of low calories.

                              You can see at 185 in the back shot that I was pretty lean, and thats when I was carrying alot less muscle. So for me to get that low now would be very depleted.

                              I know at 242 sloppy I felt shitty. At the same time though its not much worse then I feel now physically. So its not really an extra issue for me at this point. At this stage I always feel like shit but I know things can always be much worse. Every year has been something new to deal with. Something that wouldnt go away anytime soon.

                              KILLLLLLLLLLL
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                              • Arms 10 mins cardio


                                Was gonna take a week off. After 4 days off was fuckin pissed off. Trained arms

                                Moderate weight, Low volume

                                Leaning out
                                :


                                (218 lbs before meals)


                                Alt Db curls

                                50x21
                                45x9

                                Incline Db curls

                                60x8 (fucks with shoulder)

                                Alt db curls

                                Dropset (no rest til line)

                                70x8
                                55x4
                                45x4
                                -------

                                Dropset (no rest til line)

                                80x3
                                65x3
                                50x4
                                ---------

                                alt db curls

                                45x8

                                Strcit Curved Bar Pressdown

                                Pressdowns listed in KILOGRAMS

                                35x70 (warm)
                                65x40


                                Dropset (no rest til line)

                                95x35 (cb pressdowns)

                                into

                                45x8 alt db curls
                                ---------

                                Superset (no rest til line)

                                245x17 (95 kilos plus 45 lb plate) (45 lb plate pinned to stack)

                                into

                                40x8 alt db curls

                                ---------

                                245x12 (pressdowns)

                                Dropset ( no rest til line)


                                95x20
                                80x12
                                65x12
                                50x12
                                --------

                                Freemotion seated curl

                                50x20

                                10 mins cardio


                                KILL SHIT
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