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  • Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
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    • Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
      Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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      • Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
        Know what you mean brother


        Its definately connected to head turning. I have six ruptured discs last I got tested. Maybe more now. All from training like I do, pushing through pain. Atleast two of those are in my neck and another two in my upper spine. This particular strain is always my left side and runs down my neck to my trap and to the back of my shoulder. Overhead pressing and any trap stimulation fucks with it. Thats why I stopped direct trap work and rear delt work a long time ago. I was just re introducing it recently and overhead pressing twice weekly. So I expected it to give out again soon. The strain can hit me unexpectedly and lasts from 4 days to a month usually. This one seems mostly healed within 4 days. It basically requires a break until it feels somewhat normal. I still feel the strain but its more in my discs now, and neck is only semi strained. So I was able to hit some more records today.

        KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT !!
        Yep that all rings true with me.

        I'll don't think lifting it is harmfull after it's appeared (aside from shrugs directly, maybe upright rows and OH presses) as that moves everything around and gets blood and heat in, wheras sitting still it was howling. Just a break until it's 'gone' and like you say back at it.
        Confirm what I already know

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        • Originally posted by RMB View Post
          Yep that all rings true with me.

          I'll don't think lifting it is harmfull after it's appeared (aside from shrugs directly, maybe upright rows and OH presses) as that moves everything around and gets blood and heat in, wheras sitting still it was howling. Just a break until it's 'gone' and like you say back at it.

          Sometimes when I take long breaks some of my strains get worse. Certain ones will heal up alot after many months of a break. Weeks wont really do shit for me at this stage. Maybe very slight. If its a pulled muscle or impinged nerve maybe a few days to a few weeks will be good for that.

          When I took the 10 month break maybe in 2014 to early 2015, my shoulders and elbows seemed to have alot more durability. As ive lasted this long since without any massive breaks. I also have been breaking records CONSTANTLY on a weekly basis, sometimes several times a week since Ive been back. In my case that ten months was a huge benefit, not only for my body to come back stronger but for me to renew my fire. I was fucking burnt out mentally as well. The eating is what burns me out the most. The training can contribute too when my energy levels are so fucked to begin with. While I dont train 6-8 hours lately, 4 + is still very common. I train high intensity and always to failure or very close (Ill avoid failure sometimes due to joints not muscle).

          Sometimes these things can heal while you grow if you dont try to train directly through the pain. I always try to find the best angles and when I find a movement that has minimal pain, I blast the fuck out of it, as I would any other movement. I see all exercises as pretty much equal, intensity wise. Progression wise, etc. Thats a big part of how I keep shit rollin at this stage. I will drop a movement within a few reps if I feel excessive strain on a tendon or joint.

          KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT !!
          Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
          Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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          • Originally posted by Walking Beast View Post
            Sometimes when I take long breaks some of my strains get worse. Certain ones will heal up alot after many months of a break. Weeks wont really do shit for me at this stage. Maybe very slight. If its a pulled muscle or impinged nerve maybe a few days to a few weeks will be good for that.

            When I took the 10 month break maybe in 2014 to early 2015, my shoulders and elbows seemed to have alot more durability. As ive lasted this long since without any massive breaks. I also have been breaking records CONSTANTLY on a weekly basis, sometimes several times a week since Ive been back. In my case that ten months was a huge benefit, not only for my body to come back stronger but for me to renew my fire. I was fucking burnt out mentally as well. The eating is what burns me out the most. The training can contribute too when my energy levels are so fucked to begin with. While I dont train 6-8 hours lately, 4 + is still very common. I train high intensity and always to failure or very close (Ill avoid failure sometimes due to joints not muscle).

            Sometimes these things can heal while you grow if you dont try to train directly through the pain. I always try to find the best angles and when I find a movement that has minimal pain, I blast the fuck out of it, as I would any other movement. I see all exercises as pretty much equal, intensity wise. Progression wise, etc. Thats a big part of how I keep shit rollin at this stage. I will drop a movement within a few reps if I feel excessive strain on a tendon or joint.

            KEEP KILLIN THAT SHIT !!
            Yes. A time to rest and heal. A time to work around and nail it. Sounds like you needed that break and are finding paths that work. Good stuff.
            Confirm what I already know

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            • Originally posted by RMB View Post
              Yes. A time to rest and heal. A time to work around and nail it. Sounds like you needed that break and are finding paths that work. Good stuff.

              Appreciate that shit brother

              Welcome to the journal as well. Never really know what time it is until something snaps.

              KILL THAT SHIT !!
              Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
              Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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              • About to hit some arms. Arm sessions have basically been all about pump for a while now. My triceps I have not been able to challenge progressively for years. I hit 300x30 on the curved bar pressdowns years ago. Thats 2 45's loaded onto the stack. I cant get any more weight on the stack reliably. Pressdowns dont really fuck with inner elbows (where my elbow strains are), so I could probably push toward 400 lbs if the machine had the capacity.

                I would like to atleast go down to 5 or 10 rep sets, but it would require alot of weight. More than I can load on the machine. So I am always working with certain limitations. Freeweight is not really an option as skull crushers destroy my elbows. Of course I get to lower rep sets after much pre-exhaustion. Thats good but not truly testing the muscle and forcing adaption, I feel. Maybe that is why theyve been stagnant since 2012. It seems I always get bigger ultimately by getting stronger. Not just by pumping blood. Thats a more recent style ive been adapting more do to injuries. Ive been getting stronger as a side effect of gaining muscle but I would like to really push my triceps further with heavier weights. Not every week but sometimes.

                I have been doing the 300 lb pressdowns dropsetted down the stack without rest, as usual, but sometimes its only 300x10 because it causes friction on the cables these days. The plates drag on the cable or something is going on thats causing it. It didnt do that in the past. Now it always seems an issue. The friction reps are more joint damaging then anything, as the movements should always be smooth on cable machines, not grinding.

                Curling I cannot go super heavy without fucking up my tendons, so that has to be more pump oriented. Ive been doing alot of very strict movements like slow incline db curls, etc.

                I dont have any other answer except adding total body mass, as Ive been doing, and maybe they will grow from that. I will try the feeder routines again at some point, maybe even soon, just seeing how this neck strain will heal.

                My tripod for the phone camera is fucked. I broke off one of the legs the first day, and now another leg is broken. Its very flimsy. I wont be doing anything too special today anyway. Maybe 300 lbs pressdowns for reps, likely with some friction and dropsetted. Mixed in with curls with no rest too most likely. The arms training has been stagnant due to the tricep limitations though.

                KILL THAT SHIT
                Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                • Just for refferance. Here is the last time I went that high rep with the pressdowns, 300x30





                  Its very strict as well. It hasnt been anything new, so I havent filmed the dropsets lately. I believe one dropset was 11 sets straight and included curls as well. More of a drop/super set. Some of those are long series of sets without rest. The volume adds up very quick. Arm sessions tend to average 2 hours and around 50 sets, it seems.

                  So I am very limited by those machines. Pressdowns on a lat pulldown machine, the leverage feels strange to me. Once my tripod comes in maybe Ill film some more of those dropsets and shit again.

                  KILL THAT SHIT
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                  Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                  • Arms


                    Light and mid volume


                    Loading stack up to 300 lbs is still a limitation with triceps training. Cable is the only real option I have with my elbows though. 23 reps wasnt bad for basically not training last week.

                    Biceps portion I kept very light. Had to watch out not to further strain my neck as well. Its still somewhat strained. Ill continue to try and find cheap protein bars online. I ordered 27 Big100 MetRX protein bars recently. I had one on the drive back after training. They cost more than shakes but are much easier to get in. Makes it easy to get a meal in quickly as well , after training. Will start doing that. Its 400 calories and 32 protein, so its not bad for a quick feeding.

                    I tried dilluting the body fortress creatine/amino type supplement with 64 oz water today. 32 oz gatorade container, then refill when it gets low. Ill try fitting this in during training and see if it helps with the digestive issues I had. It probably wont. Just something to try. On non training days I will probably avoid it completely. Im out of Pro Bcaa aminos for now, so during training Im taking that instead.

                    The only progressive resistance I can hit now with triceps is more reps with the 300 lb stack, 30 plus. As mentioned Id like to get down into the lower rep ranges, atleast 10-15 fresh. 300 lbs is about the max I can load on the stack though. Some days it causes alot of friction on the stack and makes it 2-3 times harder rep wise. Harder in a way that damages joints, not in a good way.

                    237 lbs after meal (3 lbs added since this scale seems to have me 3 lbs lighter)

                    Curved Bar Pressdowns (same 90 degree range on all pressdowns. Upper arm 90 degrees from forearm, back down)


                    KILOGRAMS for all pressdowns unless otherwise noted

                    no rest til line

                    35x100
                    65x50
                    95x10 (210 lb stack)
                    -----
                    No rest again

                    300 lbs x 23 (2 45's loaded onto stack. About the max I can load)
                    55x10 (Alternating Dumbbell Curls)

                    -------

                    No rest again

                    300 lbs x10
                    255 lbs x10
                    95x10
                    72x10
                    65x10
                    55x10 Alt DB Curls
                    ----------------

                    May be some friction after the first set with 300 lbs. Was starting to feel less smooth

                    No rest again

                    300 lbs x10
                    255 lbs x10
                    95x10
                    72x10
                    65x10
                    55x10 Alt db curls
                    ---------------

                    No rest again

                    300 lbs x8
                    255 lbs x10
                    95x10
                    72x10
                    65x10
                    55x10 alt db curls
                    -------------------

                    V Bar Pressdowns (same range)

                    KILOGRAMS

                    No rest

                    65x20
                    95x10
                    55x7 Alt db curls
                    ------------

                    No rest til line

                    95x15
                    80x10
                    72x10
                    65x10
                    55x8 alt db curls
                    -----------------

                    No rest again

                    95x15
                    80x10
                    72x10
                    65x10
                    -----------


                    One Arm Pressdowns

                    No rest except when alternating arms

                    KILOS still

                    25x20 (matched on both arms)
                    25x10 (same)
                    ----------------

                    Same thing

                    30x5 (matched both arms)
                    30x5 (same)
                    30x5 (same)
                    30x5 (same)
                    30x5 (same)
                    ----------------

                    Incline Dumbbell Curls

                    One arm at a time. Only rest is when alternating arms

                    40x10 (matched both arms)
                    40x5 (same)
                    40x5 (same)
                    ----------------

                    Same method

                    50x5 (matched both arms)
                    50x3 (both arms at same time)
                    ------------------

                    Alternating Dumbbell Curls with Reverse Curl Negative

                    50x7

                    Spider Dumbbell Curls (incline bench used as a chest support, arms hang down and curl)

                    50x20 (both arms same time)
                    50x17 (same)

                    Alternating Dumbbell Curls with Reverse curl neg

                    no rest til line

                    45x10
                    40x5
                    ----------

                    No rest

                    45x8
                    40x5
                    ---------------

                    Dumbbell Hammer curls

                    No rest til line

                    55x10
                    45x8
                    ---------------

                    No rest

                    75x5
                    55x5
                    45x5
                    ---------------


                    KILL THAT SHIT
                    Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                    Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                    • Despite the 59 sets I hit earlier in the day for arms, decided to implement the feeder routine again. I was doing three times the amount of reps of the listed routines. I dont follow routines exactly, but 150 reps seemed like a good amount to stay with. 300 reps seems like it might interfere with recovery of tendons, etc.

                      Feeder Routine




                      Alternating Dumbbell Curls


                      15x50


                      Dumbbell Hammer curls


                      15x50


                      Alternating Dumbbell Curl with reverse curl negative


                      15x50

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                      Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                      • Looks like legs on the menu tonight. Nothing too heavy.

                        KILL
                        THAT
                        SHIT
                        !!
                        Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                        Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                        • Full legs minus calves


                          Minimal sessions for growth

                          100 mg tramadol pre workout. Have not taken 100 mg pre workout in a while. This seemed to help alot with my knee issues. Atleast what I noticed during training. I was doing this for chest and everything else too at one point, up to 150 mg pre workout. Though that may be why my shoulders ended up so thrashed during those periods. My shoulders have not gotten that bad in the 10 months or so Ive been back from the break. (10 month break). So Id rather feel some of the strains during some sessions. Numbing too much pain can be deceptive. My knees are always fucked with leg training anyway. So they shouldnt get thrashed too heavily if I dont abuse the weight and reps, volume.

                          Incorporated dead stop reps on leg presses again. Slow reps with a pause at the bottom. From 1 second to several seconds. Then followed up with the usual fast reps. Nothing to failure. The leg extentions are beyond failure due to all the rest pauses but thats about it, aside from abductor,adductors.

                          This should be a good change since ive been doing the same shit for years with legs. Arms as well, but Im more limited with arms due to machine weight limitations.

                          My knees end up useless with massive volume and super high reps on the leg presses, and even extentions. Over time it becomes a big issue. I pause about as deep as I can bring the weight down. My flexibility is limited. The main reason Im incorportating these is because I want to reduce my reps and weight used and also cut back on the volume of leg press sets. My volume has not been that high anyway because of the knees, but these may be more effective for building. Especially since my legs arent used to pause reps.



                          237 lbs after meal. (added 3 lbs to match other scales.) Digital scale is all fucked up so Im not even sure what my real weight is. I lost some weight during the stress of last week and not training. Though my measurements are just about back , if back, (muscular measurements), so I am unsure. I may even be around 234 lbs. I train at 3 gyms and the calibration gets all fucked up on the various scales. So its not always a consistant thing. I dont pay much attention to bodyweight anymore. Mainly measurements and strength. Bodyweight is worthless if its fat. It was only a good indicator of muscle gain when I had a super fast metabolism. At that stage any gains were most likely muscle or water weight. Digital scale has me at 226 but can vary by 3 lbs each time I step on it. So I may even be around 232. Theres usually a 6 lb difference between the highest digital scale reading and the doctor scales at the other 2 gyms.

                          Leg Extentions

                          Brief rest pauses only

                          No rest til line (aside from brief rest pauses)

                          100x100
                          145x100
                          200x100
                          ----------- (normally have longer breaks between the 100 rep rest pause sets, these were done back to back)

                          235x100
                          250x75 (knees acting up)

                          No rest til line (brief rest pauses)

                          220x100
                          175x50 (knee issues)
                          -------------------
                          175x100

                          Seated Leg Curl

                          No rest til line

                          90x25
                          130x10
                          -----------

                          170x10

                          No rest til line

                          205x5
                          165x5
                          145x8
                          125x10
                          -------------
                          no rest til line

                          165x5
                          145x5
                          125x5
                          ---------

                          Hamstrings tight as usual. Never really stretch.


                          Hammer Strength Leg Press (Dead stop reps mixed with fast reps. Dead stop reps are slow with a pause at the bottom. Pause can be a few seconds or less)

                          300x50 (mixed, just a warm up)
                          500x20 (Dead stop reps, slow) + 10 fast reps
                          700x10 (Dead stop reps, slow) + 20 fast reps
                          800x10 (DS reps, slow) + 20 fast reps
                          600x15 (DS reps, slow) + 15 fast reps

                          Not to failure

                          Hip Abductor

                          No rest til line (holds and regular reps on these and most other movements)

                          165x50
                          190x20
                          250x10
                          ----------

                          no rest again

                          260x10
                          200x30
                          140x30
                          --------------------

                          Hip Adductor


                          no rest til line

                          140x50
                          230x20-30
                          260x20
                          -----------

                          No rest til line (All long holds for these)

                          260x10
                          215x10
                          170x10
                          125x10
                          110x10
                          -----
                          May have been an extra set in there somewhere.

                          Creatine drink seems to digest fine for now. Ive been dilluting it with 64 oz water during training. So Ill use it. When I get the aminos ill mix those in with it as well.

                          Protein bar on the drive back makes it easy to fit in an extra feeding.

                          Feeder routine most likely tonight as well. Will try to get it in everyday unless I sleep through it.

                          KILL THAT SHIT
                          Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                          Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                          • Feeder Routine (that night)




                            Alternating Dumbbell Curls


                            15x50


                            Dumbbell Hammer curls


                            15x50


                            Alternating Dumbbell Curl with reverse curl negative


                            15x50
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                            • About to hit some back and delts. Not sure if overhead presses will be in tonight. Neck is still very slightly strained. The main reason I added in overhead pressing again was do to not being able to hit chest hard and for alot of volume. The right chest strain is still an issue. Thats also why ive been using the constant tension style again, which I actually feel more on the muscle and is way less damaging to the joints longterm. Harder for me as well, rep wise, then when I do fuller range reps. I would like to add some more volume and intensity to chest but it will be very gradual. So I will try to get some stimulation on my front delts with overheads.

                              Cant say yet if itll be once or twice a week, itll be by feel for now. Depending on neck. Ill stick with the feeder routine for a while and see what it does. I dont expect anything but at this stage I need to experiment, since arm growth has been dormant since 2012 basically. Ive had a 4 year plateau in growth before, where arms stayed in the 17s for 4 years, barely moving, if at all. So I believe there is always a way around that type of shit. I just dont have the answer yet. With weight lifting things often dont work twice. Its all about adapting and finding what works currently and not relying on what worked in the past. Ive been stubborn with trying alot of new shit though, so im sure that was holding me back. Getting to 20 inches cold on the arms has been a long fucking process though. I was at 18 3/4 cold back in late 2004, before taking myself out completely for 2 years. So even though I got up to 19 1/2 cold, its very minimal for the amount of time. My chest/back and everything else has been growing alot , just not arms.

                              Im aiming now for a growth phase during the next 48 days or so. So Ive been pushing eating heavier than usual. Not busting my ass, but alot more than usual. During my maintenance phases ive been growing slowly and making very large strength gains, so a focused growth phase should yeild some new results. Atleast once a year, but usually 2 or 3, I try to add new size agressively. Thats usually when I make my new gains for the year. Then I may have periods of maintenance, slow growth, or downsizing, but I hit a new peak and new records each year. I have a more balanced approach now, as mentioned.

                              KILL THAT SHIT !!
                              Journal: http://forums.musculardevelopment.co...ad.php?t=50558
                              Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4A4lWT65ng

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                              • Back


                                Light and low volume


                                Gym closed 2 hours earlier than expected but still got in most of my sets. Mostly holds today. Back fatigued quicker than usual but good contractions. Decided to only focus on back today since hitting delts with back has been taking away intensity and volume from back training. Back is my most responsive area so Id rather hit it seperately. Depends on my energy level though. I may hit a 5th training day on some weeks to get an extra shoulder day in seperately.

                                Will likely hit shoulders again within the next few days. Maybe overhead presses as well. See how neck strain feels. Mostly gone.

                                As a result of increasing eating my weight is coming back up. Once I get back up to 243 lbs Ill have to push eating hard and consistant to move beyond that point. Thats how its been lately. Otherwise I stay in that size range.

                                Will still hit the feeder routine nightly for biceps. 150 reps with the 15 lb dumbbells, 3 movements. Ill do it for a while to see if it has any effect. If its effective than maybe ill increase it later. Would rather start low and move up from there. Otherwise body adapts too quickly.

                                238 lbs after 2 meals, Estimate (229 clothed on digital scale. This gym scale has me 3 lbs lighter usually, so added 3 lbs to match other gym scales. Digital scale is way off) Train at 3 gyms.

                                Dilluting the creatine/amino drink has been effective and havent had any issues with it.

                                Low Cable Row (wider narrow grip handle, palms facing)

                                no rest til line

                                130x20 (long holds)
                                210x8 (long holds)
                                ------------------

                                No rest til line

                                250x8 (long holds)
                                190x10 (same)
                                ---------------

                                No rest til line

                                305x5 (regular reps)
                                205x10 (long holds)
                                -------------

                                No rest til line

                                205x10 (long holds)
                                245x5 (same)
                                165x10 (same)
                                -----------------

                                Lat Pulldowns with Wider Narrow Grip handle (palms facing)

                                180x10 (long holds, warm up)
                                240x9 (long holds)


                                No rest til line

                                270x5 (slow reps)
                                195x6 (slow reps)
                                ----------

                                Hammer Strength High Row

                                No rest til line

                                180x20 (long holds)
                                270x5 (same)
                                -------------------

                                No rest til line

                                360x5 (holds)
                                270x5 (holds)
                                180x10 (same)
                                ----------------

                                Hammer Strength iso Low Row

                                270x20 (holds)

                                no rest til line

                                320x10 (long holds)
                                270x10 (same)
                                180x10 (same)
                                ---------

                                Hammer Strength lat pullover (plate loaded)

                                180x30 (holds and long holds)


                                Gym closed two hours earlier than expected.

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