mesomorph had quite a ingredient profile on it, i think it was 350 caffeine and DMAA in it... So it should be pretty stout
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Originally posted by CMC191 View Postmesomorph had quite a ingredient profile on it, i think it was 350 caffeine and DMAA in it... So it should be pretty stout
Youre always KILLIN THAT SHIT so let me know which ones you like, and break it down for me if you like. Im gonna check the shit out online too.
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Checked out the 5150 ingredient profile
Contradiction here with the caffiene dosing. 500 mg in the "complex" but 400 mgs per serving highlighted in red at the bottom. If its 400 then its the same caffiene as hyde and wouldnt give added benefit. If its 500 I could split it up and it would last a little longer, since I take only 300 mg pre workout of caffiene.
The Mesomorph I was unable to find a breakdown of the actual ingredients. All this "complex" shit and proprietary blends as usual. With some searching though, you can sometimes find that info.
I know I could just buy bulk caffiene powder and mix it in some powerade, but I like to think Im on "something" for the psycological boost. Even though I admit alot of these ingredients are bullshit in the doses they are provided in, and many are useless all together.
In the past when I started there was no internet, and pre workouts were something I didnt even know about. I believe there was one that existed called ultimate orange, back in 1995. I was wild enough and didnt really think of that as something Id need. I may have been vaguely aware of the product. I remember later knowing of it. I dont think I tried it. My first pre workout may have been No Xplode, that I can remember. Powder anyway. The first was actually these ephedrine pills that some guy sold out of his truck. Same guy who sold me The Beast 1200, a weight gainer not sold in stores that I used for several years.
Back then I just had a shitty FM Walkman and no stims and I was fine. Relative to my level at the time, I was even more intense than I am now. I trained all day and to failure on all sets. You dont miss what you never had, is definately a true statement often times. The internet seemed like bullshit when it first arrived and now Im an addict to it. Its always harder to revert back to where you came from, when introducing new shit. Now I have all these things that are a part of my routine before training. If one is out of whack it fucks up my momentum.
I also biked 7 miles each way to the gym, and at one point unloaded furniture trucks all day.
KILL THAT SHITLast edited by Walking Beast; May 16, 2016, 06:04 PM.
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Originally posted by CMC191 View PostMax hp lists all of their doses. It is 400 mg caffeine per scoop. I just finished a bottle of it about a month aho
Ill keep Max HP in mind then too
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Originally posted by CMC191 View PostAnd damn, I remember ultimate orange. That was pretty damn good.
Im going to attempt chest training now I think. Delts as well. Ill see how the strains feel under weight.
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CHest rehab and Delts
Tried to train chest but the strain is still there in the left side. Kept it very high rep and super light. Will either continue training it light and increase the reps and possibly weight gradually, or stop training chest for a while. Undecided yet. The strain felt tight with 270.
My left arm had severe bone pain today. My arm was shaking with alot of pain, just holding up my drink. Though I continued through the dumbbell presses and up to 320 with the hammer strength shoulder press. I had 360 loaded up but decided against it. Hurts to straighten it right now. Feels like shin splint type of pain but on my inner forearm and forearm bone. Could be related to the left side chest strain or shoulder strain which is also on that side.
My left arm is also the arm that has the most hand numbness. Both hands have had permanent partial numbness for probably 6 years now. Nerve damage. Six ruptured discs, just from training, carpal tunnel in both arms, bone spurs in elbows, etc. Probably more shit now.
Im considering taking the rest of this week off for upper body training and maybe only training legs this week. Ill see how shit feels. A week may be enough recovery, but cant say yet. It would be worthless to train through this type of pain now. Ill probably take some naproxen as well to try and reduce swelling. I wont lose any size taking a week off, or 6 days.
236 lbs after meal
Incline Hammer Strength Press (constant tension style)
Chest rehab, havent had a real training session for chest in weeks.
Some brief rest pauses used on some sets. Didnt push the rest pause reps hard though. Connecting tendon in left side of chest was getting very tight.
90x100
140x75
180x100
230x50
270x55
Didnt trust the tendons in left side of chest enough to go beyond this today.
Dumbbell Shoulder Press
(Very slight incline to alleviate some spinal pressure. Left arm was fucked up. In the video youll see I struggled to kick up the 100s on my left side. Bone pain was getting bad at this stage)
50x50 not to failure
70x35
85x22
100x10 (See video. Bone pain bad by this point. Notice left arm struggling to kick up the 100 lb dumbbell)
Iso Lateral Hammer Strength Shoulder Press
Mix of full reps and 3/4 reps.
90x30 warm
180x25 same
270x20 same
320x13 (See video. Bone pain severe by this stage. Didnt go up to 4 plates a side today.)
Couldnt even hold drink without left arm shaking and in alot of pain. It may be time to take the rest of the week off for some recovery.
Dumbbell Laterals (trap focused version. I avoided rear delt work because of arm. Strict side laterals fuck with shoulder joints and the left shoulder joint is inflamed now too)
no rest til line
40x30
50x10
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No rest til line
40x20
50x20
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Short day but my left arm was done for today
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This was the last few days food and supplement wise:
5-16-16 monday (1 scoop dr.jekyll,1/2 scoop mr hyde) 40 mg pantaprozole (440 mg naproxen)
(50 mg tramadol,50,50)50,000 IU vitamin D2(2 caps Krill oil)(4 caps GEAR)(5 caps Joint
**)(2 scoops pro bcaa and 1 scoop creatine intraworkout)
ate
(20 oz choc milk)(30)XXX burrito for first meal, (52)Big100 MET ** protein bar for second
meal, (84)(crackers)(87)17 oz tilapia for third meal, (177)(ice cream)(179)(chips)(185)(20
oz choc milk)
215 grams protein
5-17-16 Tuesday (40 mg pantaprozole (50 mg tramadol,50,50 (440 mg naproxen)
ate
(crackers,granola)(4)12 oz shrimp for first meal, (82)(crackers)(84) 2 XXL Burritos for
second meal, (126)(20 oz choc milk)(156)Big100 MET ** protein bar for third meal,(188)
(crackers)(189) 16.5 ounces tilapia for fourth meal, (275)(20 oz choc milk)
305 grams protein
Notice on the day with less pills, I consumed much more food. Its just an issue with capacity. So I have to balance that out sometimes. I have major acid issues so I cant always take alot of pills without sacrificing food intake, which is way more critical during a growth phase.
Also it was an off day. Since most of this week will be a break from training to heal, I can utilise that to consume more food than usual. Training takes many hours, as does the preparation and driving to and from. Appetite is much worse but I hate to eat anyway and fish is easy. I just have to get back into the habit of eating again. As Im doing.
I notice with protein only meals I get hungry frequently (physically hungry, not mentally). That may be because they take more energy to process then other nutrients. So it may speed up metabolism. This is good for getting in more overall calories throughout the day. Lately ive been taking in carbs through carb heavy filler meals or just throughout the day eating anything with carbs in it. I keep stocked on a variety of foods, whether they be considered junk or not, they fill in the gaps. I also drink milk continuously throughout the day.
Just starting to ramp up overall food and protein intake. Up until now Ive just been eating enough to regain my previous size from before the 6 week break, since that was all that was needed.
Now Ill start adding more food consistantly to try and break some new size records, and some strength records. Mostly size for now.
Ill need more food at this point, as my weight has been stagnant for some days, which is a good indicator that I need more food to continue growth at a steady pace during this growth phase.
Might train legs shortly or later today. I may also train back using lat pullovers only. Thats about the only thing I can do to give my bone pain in left forearm a break. The rest of the week will likely be off.
If my arm heals then I should be able to train around that. The one area that Im limited now is my chest training. I got my back/chest measurement back up to 56 without even trianing chest the last few weeks. Due to the strains. So I think I can increase my growth by hitting a few sets of super high rep chest training. 270x100 on incline hammer strength maybe, and shit like that. I have to be careful not to overstrain the area so it will be a balancing act. My lats grow quickest , so that measurement should grow regardless, but it would only help to keep chest fuller and maybe grow it if possible during the injury.
I dont lose any size with a week off and usually come back stronger. Its when I go beyond that that some losses begin. So training 3 days puts me over maintenance still. The main thing is that I heal up enough to continue training and complete the growth phase. So I will try to adapt and do higher rep shit and switch movements as needed to keep shit rollin
KILL THAT SHITLast edited by Walking Beast; May 18, 2016, 05:50 AM.
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Full legs minus calves
Light and low volume
Focused on maximum depth today on the leg presses, as well as brief pauses at the bottom of many reps. I did this to get the most out of the lighter weight. I will try to preserve my knees throughout the full growth phase this time and just do whats needed for growth. Too much volume and too much weight can also lead to having to lay off leg training for some weeks.
I did leg presses first this time. Normally I do extentions and leg curls first. I did this to switch it up, and also to get the most effective movement done fresh. Leg presses being a compound movement, and doing them deep with pauses, they hit the entire leg.
I would have done a few more sets of leg press, but with the deep reps, my legs were pushing against my gut and organs and pushing all the acid back up into my throat. It was getting bad after the 600 lb set. I decided to go through with the 700 even with the acid in throat, but it was real bad after that.
Its much worse than vomitting or dry heaving during training, which I used to do weekly. With the acid it stays in the throat for many hours afterwards, and can fuck up breathing if its too severe. Ontop of missing meals, etc. So its better to avoid when possible. The sets were better quality than usual though so they got the job done, I believe.
After the presses acid was bad, but it calmed down enough to finish the rest of the routine. I didnt go crazy with volume or weight, just pumped the fuck out of the legs to finish off.
238 lbs estimated weight after previous night's meals, stayed up to train. (This scale has been broken for weeks, gym scale. I train at 3 gyms.) Estimate is based off of digital scale and pretty consistant.
Cybex Squat Press (Maximum depth was the focus today, with many pauses at the bottom of reps)
180x100 warm, not to failure
400x80
500x50
600x30 (Legs were pushing against gut and organs, pushing acid up into throat bad by this point)
700x40 (Acid was about maxed before I was about to be gurgling it)
Focus on maximum pain, depth, burn.
Nautilus Nitro Leg Extention
Brief rest pauses used throughout all sets.
90x100
??x80 (labels are fucked up on this machine, didnt matter anyway, not going for PR's just pain. This may have been over 200 or so, but unsure)
??x40
??x50
Seated Leg Curl
95x30 warm
130x20
170x10 (hamstrings tight, couldnt get a good adjustment on the machine, screw was in tight)
150x10
Hip Adductor
No rest til line (holds and regular reps)
90x50
150x10
190x5
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No rest again
205x10
165x15
125x30
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Hip Abductor
no rest til line, same style
70x50
130x10
150x10
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No rest again
150x20
130x20
110x20
90x20
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Will probably take the rest of the week off to let my left arm heal. It feels ok, but I havent put weight on it yet. Dont want to risk it. I want to complete this growth phase and get some new size before another break. I just got my size and strength back from the 6 week break, which took over 6 weeks to get back. So I am not looking to take a break just when I got back. One week isnt a problem, wont lose size and will probably come back stronger. Plus I trained legs, chest and delts, and ill do a rowless back routine within the next few days. Pullovers only. That allows me to get some stimulation and not fuck up my arm further.
The 440 mg naproxen was not a good mix with the pre workout drink before training legs. That made the acid bad.
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Been stubborn as hell and have not gotten into cooking yet. My main protein sources now are fairlife milk (40-60 oz a day), tilapia (I boil it in the mini bags they come in, super easy). And pre cooked shrimp (just take the tails off). The tilapia is the best value. The fairlife milk is lactose free and has 50 percent more protein.
For the lurkers out there looking to gain overall mass and muscle, heres a recipe to consider
https://munchies.vice.com/en/recipes/chanko-nabe
Sumo wrestler soup. (can add sumo wrestler meat into it too). This is a calorie dense soup. You can add more meat to fit muscle building needs, but you get the idea. Its used to add alot of body mass.
Fat is not the enemy as people believe. Gaining fat will increase your strength with better leverage for lifts. Thats why powerlifters do it. It protects your joints. It slows your metabolism thus allowing you to add more muscle and fat, you still add new muscle though. You wont become a fucking sumo wrestler over night so dont fucking worry about that. If you are concerned with maintaining the pretty look then dont even try it. Just something to consider.
To anyone who tries it, let me know how it works out.
Beef heart. Extremely cheap meat you can get at a butcher. Ultra tender. 200 grams of protein per bull or cow heart. Super easy to eat. Just boil and eat. Havent done it in a while, just providing some more uncommon options.
If you have cholesterol issues than it may be problematic for you, but check that shit out
Tongue is ultra tender and cheap too.
The 4 lb bags of sewer raised tilapia at walmart are only 11 fucking bucks as well.
Huge bags of rice, cheap.
Hamburger helper with a shitload of chopmeat. A cheap favorite of strongmen competitors.
No fucking excuses if you want to get it done. Its not that expensive to do.
KILL THAT SHIT !!Last edited by Walking Beast; May 19, 2016, 10:48 AM.
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