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  • #16
    Originally posted by bluecountry View Post
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    this is for triceps. if you tried to use it for some kind of pulldown it would be very awkward.

    Originally posted by bluecountry View Post
    I'm all square on BB Rows....know the form...just getting used to do really light weight. I thought I could do at least 135 but finding 65 lbs TOTAL is challenging, but as they said I guess it is because it is an isolated exercises unlike DL AND I am new to it.

    Instead of starting a new thread (which I could and maybe would be better) I wanted to ask here about doing neutral grip pulldowns.
    Specifically:
    1) If I can do 110X12 or 135X7 for wide grip pulldowns what that translates to for NT pulldown.
    2) Which bar to use from the pictures about.
    are you sure you have the form down? not trying to offend but i've seen some noob females do 95 x 5-6 with thumbless/hook grip.

    stop worrying about how weight translates from exercise to exercise. as long as the poundage is in the same range, means you're getting fairly equal back development. however, i you can do front lat pulldowns with the stack but only do neutral pulls with 100lbs then you have a problem.
    I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's nobody I'd rather be, than me.

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    • #17
      Yeh I got the form for wide down.
      Those females probably are cheating, and when I do mine, I do it at the end of the workout, last or 2nd to last.

      So pretty much the weight shouldn't be much lower for NT than it is for wide grip lat pulldown?

      Joker/others...

      1) Which of those bars I posted do you usually use for NT?
      2) When YOU do NT is your weight similar/less than doing wide lats?

      Thanks.
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      • #18
        1) Picture 1, 3, and 4.
        2) For me it is about the same.


        Blue, BarBell Rows are not an isolation exercise. It is a compound movement. If it helps you recognize what moves are compound and which are isolation, Compound moves involve more than one joint. During BB rows, the shoulder and elbows are moving.
        Not Everything. Not Yet.

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        • #19
          ^ I get what your saying. i consider it a isolation cause your working your back primarily.


          And blue don't worry about weight, it really doesn't mean shit.
          your only as strong as your mind, so consider yourself weak.
          Yep...cats before cunts like my grandma always used to say. - BBOY

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          • #20
            Thanks guys!
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            • #21
              stackndeca:

              I got video of me doing BB Rows. Not feeling it so far....it's just odd doing 315+ for DL but barely getting 95 for a similar motion.
              The thing I don't like though is I feel it more in my neck than my back, and I thought my form was good.
              Anything stand out?

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              • #22
                from your video your form is off. the way your doing it you will most likely feel it in rear delt and as you say your neck. try this; stand a little more upright, back arched, and pull the bar more toward your lower abdomen, and feel the muscles contracting as you contract at top of movement.

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                • #23
                  Blue, this is how I do them.

                  6:00
                  Not Everything. Not Yet.

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                  • #24
                    blue, notice how he stands more upright and pulls more to lower abs and you can see his shoulder blades squeezing together at top of movement and good contraction. just remember form more important than weight at first. once you get the form down the weight will increase.

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                    • #25
                      also wanted to add the reason you feel it more in your neck is in your video your neck is distended [ looking up head tilted back] this puts a lot of extra pressure on your neck. once you get form correct should correct this problem.

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                      • #26
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                        My 2 cents. If you ever get the chance to use this bar, use it. Much better contraction. Best of luck.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by D MATT View Post
                          from your video your form is off. the way your doing it you will most likely feel it in rear delt and as you say your neck. try this; stand a little more upright, back arched, and pull the bar more toward your lower abdomen, and feel the muscles contracting as you contract at top of movement.
                          Yep...that is where I felt it.

                          Originally posted by The Joker View Post
                          Blue, this is how I do them.

                          6:00
                          Thank you.

                          Originally posted by D MATT View Post
                          blue, notice how he stands more upright and pulls more to lower abs and you can see his shoulder blades squeezing together at top of movement and good contraction. just remember form more important than weight at first. once you get the form down the weight will increase.
                          Originally posted by D MATT View Post
                          also wanted to add the reason you feel it more in your neck is in your video your neck is distended [ looking up head tilted back] this puts a lot of extra pressure on your neck. once you get form correct should correct this problem.
                          OK...will correct and re-film this week.
                          This is different than what BB.com exercise guide said to do...go figure.

                          So stand with back arched at 60 degreeish angle, pull to low abs.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by bluecountry View Post
                            Yep...that is where I felt it.


                            Thank you.





                            OK...will correct and re-film this week.
                            This is different than what BB.com exercise guide said to do...go figure.

                            So stand with back arched at 60 degreeish angle, pull to low abs.
                            yes about right, this is one of those exercises if you do it correctly you will "feel" it working after a couple sets. now if you start feeling it more in your traps chances are your trying to go to heavy and standing upright to much. you should feel it more right between your shoulder blades . i would also reccomend stretching some between sets especially if your lower back starts feeling tight. this exercise along with wide grip weighted pullups should really put some size on your back.

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                            • #29
                              Here's my videos for this week.
                              A little better, but not too much.
                              BB.com was WAY wrong, they said it starts and ends on the floor, which in the video is way off.
                              I still felt it more in my neck region than back, and weight was very low.
                              I could keep trying to get the form down, but all in all, if T-Row and Low Cable Row are ok subs, I'd rather stick with them.
                              I get a much better contraction in my back, not neck, with those.



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                              • #30
                                ok its better but still not correct. stand upright just a little more, and i noticed your still pulling the bar up higher than you should. couple reps were ok but most were still pulled above your belly button. and your still distending your neck. as long as you do this you WILL FEEL IT IN YOUR NECK!!! go back and look at the video of Dorian and notice how he pulls weight to LOWER ABDOMEN. keep working on your form, its better but not there yet. good luck.

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