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    I am going to be competing in a couple weeks, then after a brief rest, embarking on a serious quest for new mass. I would like to know what legal stacks of prohormones, or whatever you choose to call this type of product, has worked best for you guys. In the past year I have done Halodrol liquigels and Novedex XT by Gaspari with good results. I would probably like to keep the Halo and add something else.

    Just wondering what you guys have used that you would rate highly? Thanks for any feedback!
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    Originally posted by Ron Harris View Post
    I am going to be competing in a couple weeks, then after a brief rest, embarking on a serious quest for new mass. I would like to know what legal stacks of prohormones, or whatever you choose to call this type of product, has worked best for you guys. In the past year I have done Halodrol liquigels and Novedex XT by Gaspari with good results. I would probably like to keep the Halo and add something else.

    Just wondering what you guys have used that you would rate highly? Thanks for any feedback!
    GXL's Original HD is one of the best prohormones I have ever used. I am currently using it right now and honestly it's highly anabolic and very little to no water retention. Hmmmmmm, Liquid Masterdrol was pretty good and you get a bit of a kick from Yohimbe.

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    • #3
      Wish I could help Ron. This is a part of the game that I have really dropped the ball on. I've relied on Eric B to tell me what natty/otc supps to take during my contest runs.

      However, I think i'm going to use ALR's Evolution stack this time. You may want to look into that.
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      • #4
        The best legal stack I've ever used or sold is Epic's 5-Tetra/Gaspari's Halodrol liquigels. If you want you can add Epic's 8-Beta Anabol during w/o.

        This is hands down the very best. Period. No water retention or anything, and you will feel positively superhuman.
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        • #5
          I just got the trifecta stack from LG... I also asked a lot and all over about legal stacks before making this decision... and a month ago the big guru-wizard-master told me to use this LG product methyl 1-d... I will let you know what happens in a month

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          • #6
            Cool, I appreciate all that feedback!

            Water retention won't be a concern, though. This is going to be for use in the fall and winter and I want to take my weight up to 240-245.
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            • #7
              Take this with a grain of salt but here is a story:
              My buddy tried the LG Methyl 1D.
              He got stronger.
              and went to the hospital for a few days.
              No he dosen't really drink either but his liver was MESSED up.
              Perhaps he was using way too much, I don't know.
              Maybe a pre-existing condition?
              I know he'll never use it again though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tjoe View Post
                Take this with a grain of salt but here is a story:
                My buddy tried the LG Methyl 1D.
                He got stronger.
                and went to the hospital for a few days.
                No he dosen't really drink either but his liver was MESSED up.
                Perhaps he was using way too much, I don't know.
                Maybe a pre-existing condition?
                I know he'll never use it again though.
                many OTC anabolics are much harder on the body per dosage than actual steroids (like anavar, etc) from what I understand
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                • #9
                  I find it very ironic that people are talking about low class gear none the less that just hasn’t been banned in a natural form. I don’t see the line between the products spoke of and d-bol except less gains. just for the sake of wondering, Ron why would you even bother when you can get what ever you want ? otc's for lack of a better word produce half the results with all of the sides . I just dont understand why anyone would use the stuff . like this thread I know of people all over the net having to go to a doc with high liv-values from meth-1d and such . even people who have used a-50 at 100-150mg /day with no probs ,buy some methel -1 and its off to see a doc .
                  Last edited by preist943; August 2, 2007, 01:07 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I echo Layne and preist943.
                    However I understand Rons reasoning for going that route as he spoke about it in his thread.
                    But yes, I think many of the OTC products are MORE risky than the actual AAS. Especially if you go with injections. Not that I am an expert (far from it) but some injectables seem to be the safest way to go even when compareed to "legal" sups and with much better results.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by preist943 View Post
                      I find it very ironic that people are talking about low class gear none the less that just hasnít been banned in a natural form. I donít see the line between the products spoke of and d-bol except less gains. just for the sake of wondering, Ron why would you even bother when you can get what ever you want ? otc's for lack of a better word produce half the results with all of the sides . I just dont understand why anyone would use the stuff . like this thread I know of people all over the net having to go to a doc with high liv-values from meth-1d and such . even people who have used a-50 at 100-150mg /day with no probs ,buy some methel -1 and its off to see a doc .
                      For me personally in direct comment of your question is; do the ends justify the means? In all aspects. Morally, legally, financially, and educated. If you can on all fronts then have at it. Like I said for me personally I get a huge NO check mark my every one.
                      You are totally correct in saying that many companies are peddling garbage that has worse side effect than real aas. That's where the educated part comes into play.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ron Harris View Post
                        I am going to be competing in a couple weeks, then after a brief rest, embarking on a serious quest for new mass. I would like to know what legal stacks of prohormones, or whatever you choose to call this type of product, has worked best for you guys. In the past year I have done Halodrol liquigels and Novedex XT by Gaspari with good results. I would probably like to keep the Halo and add something else.

                        Just wondering what you guys have used that you would rate highly? Thanks for any feedback!

                        Hey bro, take it from someone with some experience. I've done Super & Phera in the past(before i knew and realized WTF it was) and that shit is HARD on your liver, just as bad as the real stuff PLUS if you think you'll get away from Gyno and shit like that..forget about it. You still need to hope on Nova & do a PCT! Its very anabolic, the threads are no joke. Your safe bet is to stick with Estro blockers like 6-oxo,zma,tribulus ie forza-t, or novedex xt things of that nature that doesnt fu@k with your natural hormons brutha! Just becuase its "legal" doesnt mean that is natural or good for you, it just means there are loop holes or the FDA hasnt gotten word about it yet. There are some highly anabolic "legal" gear out there but be safe man and read up on thread before you purchase if you want to stay "nattie"! You sure have maintained some size before you were a "reborn" nattie, good for you for wising up before it was too late!

                        Oh one more thing, heres what i do:
                        Cell-Mass, No-Xplode, Leanfire(thermo when cutting) & Forza-T or some sorta estro blocker like Novedex XT..but not getting as good results with that as i have with Forza-T! I've dont T-Bomb II and that bit the big one as well.

                        peace brutha

                        jd
                        Last edited by jeromedinh; August 2, 2007, 03:42 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Cool - Jerome, you look awesome by the way!
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                          • #14
                            A product I've had good resultst with that is completely natural is Activate by Designer Supplements. Not sure if there's been discussion on other threads about this product, but I took it and gained some lean mass and actually lowered my bodyfat slightly (no change on calories or cardio). It basically binds with Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) and increases the amount of circulating testosterone. Again, I found I got great results from it. They have a new formula out that looks promising, Activate Xtreme, that has some more elements (natural test booster, anti-estrogen) and is still natural/plant based. Know a few people that have tried it already and they are loving it.
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                            • #15
                              Labrada's got a solid line of supplements. He has a testosterone booster called humanofort which contains IGF-1 IGF-2 also and it's supposed to increase your natural testosterone production and reduce recovery time. I like Labrada's products and am considering giving humanofort a try. I would look into it if I were you and see what you think.

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