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  • Sporto
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    Originally posted by Tim Martin View Post
    I'm glad you like that exercise, I think it's one of the best for glutes. Regarding Dream Tan, I've used it in 25-30 shows so I'm familiar with the proper application, but I did sweat a lot in the shows so it definitely looked muddy. Saying that natural organizations have different judging criteria is like saying its OK for different baseball leagues having different strike zones. Bottom line is that I stand by my opinion and have moved on.
    I love that exercise, even with the stares! When someone my size is doing it, it usually captures an interest from the bro crowd...like they all think they are missing out on something secret lol.

    Gotcha on the Dream Tan, just by reading the final report, I wasn't aware you've used it before. Even from the pics, it didn't look bad, but I understand. Most NPC shows ban that stuff, and I knew you were a big NPC guy, so I didn't know your experiences with it.

    I get what you are saying. But if you think about it in that context, the college strike zone is a lot different than the MLB strike zone (I know as I played both college and the pro level). Same game, different zones. The umpires have different criteria as to what they deem a strike. It's ok to have the opinion that the reason you placed fourth was simply because the judges didn't want you to do well because you were already an established NPC/IFBB guy. There's no harm in agreeing to disagree on that one

    So in your opinion, what criteria should be emphasized when competitors are close in competition?

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  • Tim Martin
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    I'm glad you like that exercise, I think it's one of the best for glutes. Regarding Dream Tan, I've used it in 25-30 shows so I'm familiar with the proper application, but I did sweat a lot in the shows so it definitely looked muddy. Saying that natural organizations have different judging criteria is like saying its OK for different baseball leagues having different strike zones. Bottom line is that I stand by my opinion and have moved on.

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  • Sporto
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    Originally posted by Tim Martin View Post
    This is just my opinion, but I believe these natural organizations simply didn't want an established NPC/IFBB athlete doing well in their contests. At the end of the day I have pictures to document the condition and shape I brought to the stage, so where the judges in these organizations choose to place me really doesn't carry much weight in my perspective.
    Judges from natural organizations tend to place emphasis on different criteria than the NPC/IFBB does. Depending on the show/promoter and the judges they use (I know many of these people personally), I seriously doubt you placed 4th because they just didn't want an NPC/IFBB guy doing well. If that was really the case, do you honestly think you would have even placed at all? I am pretty shocked that this is the conclusion you draw from not placing as high as you had hoped. Coming from a seasoned bodybuilder, you should know better than most people that this is a subjective sport where 7 strangers will all have their own personal interpretation of what everyone brings to the stage.

    On a side note, there is a trick to putting Dream Tan on correctly. If you decided to go outside of your normal coloring procedure simply because "that's what most competitors in the natural shows seems to use" it would have helped you to ask around about the application of it. I know Brian Whitacre and myself both wrote extensive posts covering the process. It will always look muddy and blotchy if you just try to rub it on.

    By the way, still to this day I do the abductor machine the way you do with the hips up off the seat. I can't tell you how many weird looks I get every time I do these lol.

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  • Tim Martin
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    Final report:

    I did two "pro natural" shows in September, the first I was a little watery due to trying a three day "shit load" carb-up, the second I felt I was much tighter. In both contests I used DreamTan, mainly because that's what most competitors in the natural shows seem to use. I thought it looked very muddy on me, and in retrospect I should have simply used a normal posing gel. It's hard to be objective when analyzing your own physique, but looking at the photos I felt an argument could have been made that I should have won both shows. I ended up getting fourth place both times, and am still scratching my head about that. This is just my opinion, but I believe these natural organizations simply didn't want an established NPC/IFBB athlete doing well in their contests. At the end of the day I have pictures to document the condition and shape I brought to the stage, so where the judges in these organizations choose to place me really doesn't carry much weight in my perspective.

    P.S.: A week before the second contest I dropped a 50 lb. dumbell on my left big toe and fractured it in three places. That final week was literally hell but I'm very proud that I finished my journey and stepped on stage with a good final product.
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  • mrky03
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    Tim, you look spot on! And NO! You are not getting too old! Lol

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  • Tim Martin
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    One week out, 208.5 lbs. (@night)
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  • Tim Martin
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    ^ Thanks bud! Posting updates keeps me motivated and lets me enjoy the journey more than just the 20 or so minutes on stage.

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  • XS
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    Tim! You're bringing the nasty. As a lifetime natty myself,u r an inspiration..CRUSH these next couple weeks!

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  • Tim Martin
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    2 weeks out:
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  • Tim Martin
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    Originally posted by Mini Forklift Ⓥ View Post
    How do you find motivation to train all out after all of these years, what do you draw inspiration from Tim?
    I'm definitely one of those guys who trains with a chip on his shoulder. The gym is the easy part as most of us enjoy going balls out lifting weights. Where I really find my motivation to do the unpleasant things like cardio and dieting is fighting for my "piece of the pie" with regards to being in the elite group of natural bodybuilders. I've dealt with my share of "haters", both in the gym (always behind my back) and online, either saying I'm lying about being natural or simply that I suck ;-). Now at the tail end of my career I hope to be back on a drug-tested stage with basically the same package I've been bringing for the past ten years, proving that just because I chose to compete in the NPC/IFBB I've remained a natural athlete and chose to compete on my terms.

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    How do you find motivation to train all out after all of these years, what do you draw inspiration from Tim?

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  • houstonjohn
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    Originally posted by Tim Martin View Post
    My "mind state" is pretty much the same as it has been for the past 17 years and 30+ contests:
    -Am I getting too small?
    -I'm not lean enough?
    -Am I eating the right macros?
    -What should I do the final week?
    -Should I cut calories/increase cardio?

    And now I can add:
    -Am I getting too old?
    -Can I be competitive with my limited training schedule?

    So basically I have a lot of insecurities, but I tell myself like I do each prep that these same insecurities are what will enable me to bring the package I need to bring to win.
    Finally, finally! A pro who doesn't answer "I'm bringing my best package". Good, candid response.

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  • Tim Martin
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    Originally posted by Norway Power View Post
    Legs look like they are coming in nice. How are you feeling on the diet? Whats your mind state looking like at this point in the prep
    My "mind state" is pretty much the same as it has been for the past 17 years and 30+ contests:
    -Am I getting too small?
    -I'm not lean enough?
    -Am I eating the right macros?
    -What should I do the final week?
    -Should I cut calories/increase cardio?

    And now I can add:
    -Am I getting too old?
    -Can I be competitive with my limited training schedule?

    So basically I have a lot of insecurities, but I tell myself like I do each prep that these same insecurities are what will enable me to bring the package I need to bring to win.

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  • Norway Power
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    Legs look like they are coming in nice. How are you feeling on the diet? Whats your mind state looking like at this point in the prep

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  • Tim Martin
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    3 weeks out from USBF Jersey Pro, 5 weeks from DFAC Pro Universe.
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