Layne Norton

[str8flexed]

yes they cause the body to secrete stored insulin.

It is different from a carb induced secretion however as carbohydrates cause a biphasic release. 1st the dumping of stored insulin and then the pancreas manufactures insulin until the glucose is cleared.

argining, phenylalanine, & leucine only cause a monophasic response of dumping of stored insulin, but no increase in pancreatic production of insulin like carbs do

[dawnlouise]

Your Advice...

I am working with Dave, following a ketogenic diet and am a big fan of the Xtend product which I use during my workouts!

I am getting confusing messages about it's calorie content! I had believed it was 0 but now not quite so sure!

I KNOW you are the expert so wondered what your take was on it & also would it cause insulin secretion at all??

Thank you!
Dawn.x

[Geminon]

apparantly phenylalanine can increase insulin secretion; however, I think that arginine is actually a stronger stimulator of insulin release.

-Layne

You think its only for insulin because the above products I thought included it for some reason to influence protein synthesis (or some other function I don't know of). Its werid because they DO include carbs with those.

[str8flexed]

I am working with Dave, following a ketogenic diet and am a big fan of the Xtend product which I use during my workouts!

I am getting confusing messages about it's calorie content! I had believed it was 0 but now not quite so sure!

I KNOW you are the expert so wondered what your take was on it & also would it cause insulin secretion at all??

Thank you!
Dawn.x

Dawn,
it does have calories. It has 5g of amino acids per scoop which is 4kcal/gram = 20 total kcals per scoop. The reason it is listed as 0 is because they FDA will not allow a company to list free form amino acids as having calories which is absolutely asinine. BCAAs will cause insulin secretion, read my post above yours in this thread.

good luck,
-Layne

[str8flexed]

You think its only for insulin because the above products I thought included it for some reason to influence protein synthesis (or some other function I don't know of). Its werid because they DO include carbs with those.

well insulin has a synergistic effect with amino acids on protein synthesis so yea i think they included it for the insulin

[Supernothing]

Dawn,
it does have calories. It has 5g of amino acids per scoop which is 4kcal/gram = 20 total kcals per scoop. The reason it is listed as 0 is because they FDA will not allow a company to list free form amino acids as having calories which is absolutely asinine. BCAAs will cause insulin secretion, read my post above yours in this thread.

good luck,
-Layne

But you personally do not count the BCAAs towards your protein count, you take them on top of your 1g/pound bodyweight protein, correct?

[Big Poppa S]

I just watched a few of your videos layne...they're pretty awesome!! Well done and congrats!

[str8flexed]

i count them

[Heffalum]

you can take it all the way through. Thanks for trying it out; let me know how you like it!

Hey Layne I just ordered a bottle of Dialene 4, I getting ready for an oct 13 bodybuilding show. My Question is, should I take the Dialene 4 all the way up to the show or cut it out a few weeks out.

I really like the Dialene 4 It's working great it gives me good energy and I seem to be losing body fat better. I know it is not designed to be an appitite suppressant but it is also helping me with that. I have found it works much better if you take 2 pills 3 times a day instead of 3 pills 2 times a day. I'm going to try extend next. I'll let you know what I think of it. Should I take extend by it's self or can I mix it with my WPI ?

[str8flexed]

you can mix it with wpi or take it by itself.

thanks for the feedback buddy. do you have a show coming up?

[Heffalum]

you can mix it with wpi or take it by itself.

thanks for the feedback buddy. do you have a show coming up?

Yeah oct 13 in Flint, MI it's an OCB Pro qualifier it's the same show you won your pro card at, they moved the date, the promoter does 3 shows a year and always gets the most competitors in his oct show.

[str8flexed]

oh wow, that's awesome. what classes are you entering?

[Spikes079]

Layne what do you think of arachidonic acid, (The stuff in Halodrol LG's and anabolic x-Factor) I'm thinking of stacking it with OKG

[Geminon]

Layne what do you think of arachidonic acid, (The stuff in Halodrol LG's and anabolic x-Factor) I'm thinking of stacking it with OKG

I asked him this same question already

AA tends to have a 50/50 reactions. some people love it... some get absolutely nothing from it. I believe what you are seeing in the people who have big results is you are looking at the correction of low AA levels in those people. Typically bodybuilding diets can be low in Omega 6's relatively due to all the emphasis placed on omega 3s. So I don't think AA will increase anabolism above normal in people with normal levels of AA, but in people who have low levels, it may correct a low level.

[fast-twitch]

is this bacially all h.i.i.t. cardio is

http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/justin6.htm