Layne Norton

[irvston]

hi Layne,

i mix my whey with egg whites then cook them as a pancake. does the heat in this situation destroy the protein?

Sam

[str8flexed]

please check out my previous posts, denaturing does not mean destroy

[Geminon]

One thing that I would think would still be a limiting factor is the potential for food poisoning... While I admit I have an iron stomach and probably throw things in it I maybe shouldn't (although the stomach flu kicked my butt last week..) I think if you risk eating un-pasteurized, raw eggs, you are putting yourself at risk for salmonella and the cost isn't worth the benefit in cooking.

For me that risk is acceptable. Apparently from what Ive read the chances these days of getting an infected egg is EXTREMELY low. Like very small fraction of eggs are infected. The chicken has to be sick lay the egg and all kinds of other controls in place limit the chances of buying an egg in the store with salmonella. Like you may get 1 badegg every 50 years of eating eggs some stats say. And the salmonella is normally a self limiting disease.

The greater risks are non digestion than from Biotin loss or salmonella.

[captaincardio58]

bodybuilders worry about the stupidest stuff...cook the eggs in the pan with PAM scramble them if they start to brown then u over cooked get them nice WHITE then turn of the heat and mix them around the heat from the pan with help cook the excess ...hell poach the eggs if ure that worried...or if ure a real man drink the eggs...ewwwwww. jp fellas THERES ONLY ONE ROCKY!... sry to butt in like that layne i just think the K.I.S.S method in everything...ne who i had a question b4 i just rambled whats ure thoughts on kre akalyn vs regular monohydrate...is one all that much better the other?

[Nuke]

Layne,

What are your thoughts on newer natural guys training routines? I have heard just as many people endorse whole body training every other day as I have guys recommend split training.

How important is that sort of soft soreness you get after a workout? I don't get that with just a few sets per bodypart on a whole body routine.

[Nuke]

I don't know whether you want to or are at liberty to comment on this, but how do you feel about the magazine Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness?

I was reading the editors opening letter in that magazine (it is a couple of month old issue) and they were talking smack about RH's interview with Desmond Miller and his switch to the untested IFBB. It kind of turned me off, so I was wondering how you feel about them.

Dustin

[Rzilla]

I don't know whether you want to or are at liberty to comment on this, but how do you feel about the magazine Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness?

I was reading the editors opening letter in that magazine (it is a couple of month old issue) and they were talking smack about RH's interview with Desmond Miller and his switch to the untested IFBB. It kind of turned me off, so I was wondering how you feel about them.

Dustin

I saw this too, and I was slightly perturbed.

[DDD619]

layne, whats your take on the idea of 2 post workout "meals"? some people take 25-50G of carbs with BCAA or CEE and then 20-30 mins later they take X amount of protein then wait an hour and get in a solid food meal.

i guess being "traditional" or whatever one wants to call it, i always thought you put it all together in one "meal" i.e. BCAA, CEE, carbs, protein. then an hour later go and have your solid meal. is there any research or studies that benefit one over the other.

thanks bro, keep up the solid thread!

[str8flexed]

I saw this too, and I was slightly perturbed.

it is owned by the wnbf and without getting into specifics I will just say that I'm a reasonable person and I will have nothing to do with the wnbf, they pulled something with me that I will NEVER forget and probably not forgive

[str8flexed]

layne, whats your take on the idea of 2 post workout "meals"? some people take 25-50G of carbs with BCAA or CEE and then 20-30 mins later they take X amount of protein then wait an hour and get in a solid food meal.

i guess being "traditional" or whatever one wants to call it, i always thought you put it all together in one "meal" i.e. BCAA, CEE, carbs, protein. then an hour later go and have your solid meal. is there any research or studies that benefit one over the other.

thanks bro, keep up the solid thread!

i think it's fine, then again don't make it too complex, just hitting the #s is most important

[Geminon]

Layne:

Do you know of any studies on BCAA/Lecuine that show using it adds a significant amount of lean body mass than without like we know whey, Ba, and creatine do. It seems every one Ive seen just showed it just increased protein synthesis in some way. But I cant think of any controlled ones where using it lead to more muscle on a normal BB diet.

In other words, I'm looking for research that supports its use in the OFF SEASON during mass gaining. If there is nothing showing this let me know its ok.

[BULK_CITY]

Calfs--

hey layne,

my calfs suck. I'm 6'2 with 16'' calfs (high inserts too) and i'm a hardgainer. My diet/cardio/training (other than calfs) is going really well. I've been doing DC training for the past 2 years so (which is calfs every other workout for 1 set of 10-12 reps with a 5sec neg, 15sec stretch and a hard flex at the top)...

this method isn't really doing much for my calfs (they have hardly grown in those 2 years whereas everything else has)

can you please give me some advice AND post your calf training? i read that you like to do high volume for your calfs. Please list the training in detail (reps/sets/with what part of split/amount per week/tempo/etc)

THANK YOU!

[Rzilla]

Layne:

Do you know of any studies on BCAA/Lecuine that show using it adds a significant amount of lean body mass than without like we know whey, Ba, and creatine do. It seems every one Ive seen just showed it just increased protein synthesis in some way. But I cant think of any controlled ones where using it lead to more muscle on a normal BB diet.

In other words, I'm looking for research that supports its use in the OFF SEASON during mass gaining. If there is nothing showing this let me know its ok.

best bet is to goodle the Tipton studies.

[Rzilla]

Calfs--

hey layne,

my calfs suck. I'm 6'2 with 16'' calfs (high inserts too) and i'm a hardgainer. My diet/cardio/training (other than calfs) is going really well. I've been doing DC training for the past 2 years so (which is calfs every other workout for 1 set of 10-12 reps with a 5sec neg, 15sec stretch and a hard flex at the top)...

this method isn't really doing much for my calfs (they have hardly grown in those 2 years whereas everything else has)

can you please give me some advice AND post your calf training? i read that you like to do high volume for your calfs. Please list the training in detail (reps/sets/with what part of split/amount per week/tempo/etc)

THANK YOU!

hey, I'm not Layne, but I know that he advocates power/hypertrophy days.

On a hypertophy day you would probably throw calves in to some kind of a superset, and hit them with a higher rep range.

On power days you would go lower, say 8 reps and pound them that way.

I think I've got high insertions too

good luck man

[str8flexed]

Layne:

Do you know of any studies on BCAA/Lecuine that show using it adds a significant amount of lean body mass than without like we know whey, Ba, and creatine do. It seems every one Ive seen just showed it just increased protein synthesis in some way. But I cant think of any controlled ones where using it lead to more muscle on a normal BB diet.

In other words, I'm looking for research that supports its use in the OFF SEASON during mass gaining. If there is nothing showing this let me know its ok.

this is going to sound like a cop out, but you guys have no idea how hard it is to produce compositional changes; 10 weeks is nothing out of a humans lifetime so trying to get compositional changes out of that is pretty damned tough. Also, not many people willing to fund that... who is going to fund it? that's probably a 50-100k study to run and what reasoning will you provide for people to fund it? "we want to see how to get people huge." not going to fly lol.

there is a study in rats showing that leucine supplementation improves body composition in rats... actually there are 2.

-Layne