Layne Norton

[Latinmuscle]

Can you write me up a diet and training program to help me accomplish my natty goals over the next 5 months.

NOW: 205 at 13% BF = 178 lbs LBM
GOAL: 215 at 2% BF = 211 lbs LBM

All in 5 months and for a Natural show. 33lbs of natural gains in 5 months and losing 11% body fat at the same time

33lbs of muscle...averaging over 1.5lbs a week

well maybe if you live in saturn 5 months = 12 earth years so I think is possible.

[bhman6]

Layne I just competed in a npc natural show, and I came in great shape and done very well, but i've been around the iron game and I can say a lot of people in the show in my opinion you can tell either just got off a cycle because the level of conditioning some had with striations and everything, but hey I wanna continue to compete but I'm not gonna bust my ass doing it the right way too only lose too somebody who timed their cycle right too come in too the show and pass. What would you suggest if you were in this situation?

what do striations have to do with being natural?

who cares what other people do

[str8flexed]

Layne I just competed in a npc natural show, and I came in great shape and done very well, but i've been around the iron game and I can say a lot of people in the show in my opinion you can tell either just got off a cycle because the level of conditioning some had with striations and everything, but hey I wanna continue to compete but I'm not gonna bust my ass doing it the right way too only lose too somebody who timed their cycle right too come in too the show and pass. What would you suggest if you were in this situation?

maybe so, but in general that is just a cop out. I've seen many natural, truly natural competitors out-condition enhanced guys many times over. Now size and muscularity are a different aspect but conditioning wise there is no reason you can't get shredded like everyone else

[str8flexed]

hey layne, have you ever had a proble getting migraine headaches while you work out? the past week after i do one set i get a killer migraine. i was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this.

no but i know others have had it... i would see a specialist

[flexingtonsteele]

maybe so, but in general that is just a cop out. I've seen many natural, truly natural competitors out-condition enhanced guys many times over. Now size and muscularity are a different aspect but conditioning wise there is no reason you can't get shredded like everyone else

I agree with this man saying that many npc natural shows are filled with "un natural " competitors. His reasons are wrong. But it is bullshit that you go to a so called natural show and you see guys with gyno, acne everywhere, and "lumps" in some places, it just aint cool.

[mrky03]

Layne, I'm new to this forum and I've been catching up with this thread. I agree you can get just as conditioned as anyone on roids. In my last show I placed ahead of a guy who was obviously "juiced" and man was he pissed! I compete in tested and non tested shows and it pisses me off for someone to try and beat the test, just dosen't make sense, I mean how good could it feel to win a natural show if you're not natural? It is fun to mix it up with the non tested crowd though. I've always managed to do ok in both types of shows.

Great thread by the way, very informative! I hope your injury heals soon!

[str8flexed]

Layne, I'm new to this forum and I've been catching up with this thread. I agree you can get just as conditioned as anyone on roids. In my last show I placed ahead of a guy who was obviously "juiced" and man was he pissed! I compete in tested and non tested shows and it pisses me off for someone to try and beat the test, just dosen't make sense, I mean how good could it feel to win a natural show if you're not natural? It is fun to mix it up with the non tested crowd though. I've always managed to do ok in both types of shows.

Great thread by the way, very informative! I hope your injury heals soon!

thanks, and thank you for dropping by my thread!

[Quelly]

Can you write me up a diet and training program to help me accomplish my natty goals over the next 5 months.

NOW: 205 at 13% BF = 178 lbs LBM
GOAL: 215 at 2% BF = 211 lbs LBM

All in 5 months and for a Natural show. 33lbs of natural gains in 5 months and losing 11% body fat at the same time

33lbs of muscle...averaging over 1.5lbs a week

sigh...he's not 13% bodyfat in those pics...he looks like he's single digit in those pics...I don't care what the hydro dunk said the man has completely separated quads and hammies.

[bhman6]

sigh...he's not 13% bodyfat in those pics...he looks like he's single digit in those pics...I don't care what the hydro dunk said the man has completely separated quads and hammies.

plus hydro is going to measure visceral fat which isn't visible under the skin, and a 2% skinfold reading might realistically be 2-3 times higher than that via hydro or something like DEXA, MRI, etc.

I've actually gotten a skinfold done at 4% and then gotten a DEXA done 10 minutes later that read me close to 9%

[hossjob]

Joel in the house! Love seeing you here Joel. This is a great board and Layne's thread is one of the best out there. Great information from a great guy.

[str8flexed]

anyone else think Kyle looks a tad bit like Rich Franklin... without the broken nose of course

[Nitrotank]

anyone else think Kyle looks a tad bit like Rich Franklin... without the broken nose of course

I've got 10:1 that Kyle has no idea who on earth you're referring to. But I do see a slight resemblence.

[Toddbz]

anyone else think Kyle looks a tad bit like Rich Franklin... without the broken nose of course

That's who he looks like. Every time I see a picture of him I think 'Kyle reminds me of someone'. Franklin ain't as purdy though lol

[hossjob]

I've got 10:1 that Kyle has no idea who on earth you're referring to. But I do see a slight resemblence.

Bite me I'm assuming he's a UFC fighter or something?

Thanks Todd! I get that all the time, "You look like...." I've gotten everything from Gustavo, Lou Ferrigno, Pudge Rodriguez, A-Rod, Stiffler from American Pie, etc...

[lilGiant]

plus hydro is going to measure visceral fat which isn't visible under the skin, and a 2% skinfold reading might realistically be 2-3 times higher than that via hydro or something like DEXA, MRI, etc.

I've actually gotten a skinfold done at 4% and then gotten a DEXA done 10 minutes later that read me close to 9%

Same here as well. I got the hydro done and i was 11.3%. About 10-15 minutes later i got the fold done and i was 4.7%.