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  • Originally posted by ForemanRules View Post
    Can you write me up a diet and training program to help me accomplish my natty goals over the next 5 months.

    NOW: 205 at 13% BF = 178 lbs LBM
    GOAL: 215 at 2% BF = 211 lbs LBM

    All in 5 months and for a Natural show. 33lbs of natural gains in 5 months and losing 11% body fat at the same time

    33lbs of muscle...averaging over 1.5lbs a week
    well maybe if you live in saturn 5 months = 12 earth years so I think is possible.

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    • Originally posted by mr. symmetry View Post
      Layne I just competed in a npc natural show, and I came in great shape and done very well, but i've been around the iron game and I can say a lot of people in the show in my opinion you can tell either just got off a cycle because the level of conditioning some had with striations and everything, but hey I wanna continue to compete but I'm not gonna bust my ass doing it the right way too only lose too somebody who timed their cycle right too come in too the show and pass. What would you suggest if you were in this situation?

      what do striations have to do with being natural?

      who cares what other people do
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      • Originally posted by mr. symmetry View Post
        Layne I just competed in a npc natural show, and I came in great shape and done very well, but i've been around the iron game and I can say a lot of people in the show in my opinion you can tell either just got off a cycle because the level of conditioning some had with striations and everything, but hey I wanna continue to compete but I'm not gonna bust my ass doing it the right way too only lose too somebody who timed their cycle right too come in too the show and pass. What would you suggest if you were in this situation?
        maybe so, but in general that is just a cop out. I've seen many natural, truly natural competitors out-condition enhanced guys many times over. Now size and muscularity are a different aspect but conditioning wise there is no reason you can't get shredded like everyone else
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        • Originally posted by bdybldrkev View Post
          hey layne, have you ever had a proble getting migraine headaches while you work out? the past week after i do one set i get a killer migraine. i was just wondering if anyone else has experienced this.
          no but i know others have had it... i would see a specialist
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          • Originally posted by str8flexed View Post
            maybe so, but in general that is just a cop out. I've seen many natural, truly natural competitors out-condition enhanced guys many times over. Now size and muscularity are a different aspect but conditioning wise there is no reason you can't get shredded like everyone else
            I agree with this man saying that many npc natural shows are filled with "un natural " competitors. His reasons are wrong. But it is bullshit that you go to a so called natural show and you see guys with gyno, acne everywhere, and "lumps" in some places, it just aint cool.

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            • Layne, I'm new to this forum and I've been catching up with this thread. I agree you can get just as conditioned as anyone on roids. In my last show I placed ahead of a guy who was obviously "juiced" and man was he pissed! I compete in tested and non tested shows and it pisses me off for someone to try and beat the test, just dosen't make sense, I mean how good could it feel to win a natural show if you're not natural? It is fun to mix it up with the non tested crowd though. I've always managed to do ok in both types of shows.

              Great thread by the way, very informative! I hope your injury heals soon!

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              • Originally posted by mrky03 View Post
                Layne, I'm new to this forum and I've been catching up with this thread. I agree you can get just as conditioned as anyone on roids. In my last show I placed ahead of a guy who was obviously "juiced" and man was he pissed! I compete in tested and non tested shows and it pisses me off for someone to try and beat the test, just dosen't make sense, I mean how good could it feel to win a natural show if you're not natural? It is fun to mix it up with the non tested crowd though. I've always managed to do ok in both types of shows.

                Great thread by the way, very informative! I hope your injury heals soon!
                thanks, and thank you for dropping by my thread!
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                • Originally posted by ForemanRules View Post
                  Can you write me up a diet and training program to help me accomplish my natty goals over the next 5 months.

                  NOW: 205 at 13% BF = 178 lbs LBM
                  GOAL: 215 at 2% BF = 211 lbs LBM

                  All in 5 months and for a Natural show. 33lbs of natural gains in 5 months and losing 11% body fat at the same time

                  33lbs of muscle...averaging over 1.5lbs a week
                  sigh...he's not 13% bodyfat in those pics...he looks like he's single digit in those pics...I don't care what the hydro dunk said the man has completely separated quads and hammies.
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                  • Originally posted by Quelly View Post
                    sigh...he's not 13% bodyfat in those pics...he looks like he's single digit in those pics...I don't care what the hydro dunk said the man has completely separated quads and hammies.


                    plus hydro is going to measure visceral fat which isn't visible under the skin, and a 2% skinfold reading might realistically be 2-3 times higher than that via hydro or something like DEXA, MRI, etc.

                    I've actually gotten a skinfold done at 4% and then gotten a DEXA done 10 minutes later that read me close to 9%
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                    • Joel in the house! Love seeing you here Joel. This is a great board and Layne's thread is one of the best out there. Great information from a great guy.
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                      • anyone else think Kyle looks a tad bit like Rich Franklin... without the broken nose of course
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                        • Originally posted by str8flexed View Post
                          anyone else think Kyle looks a tad bit like Rich Franklin... without the broken nose of course
                          I've got 10:1 that Kyle has no idea who on earth you're referring to. But I do see a slight resemblence.
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                          • Originally posted by str8flexed View Post
                            anyone else think Kyle looks a tad bit like Rich Franklin... without the broken nose of course
                            That's who he looks like. Every time I see a picture of him I think 'Kyle reminds me of someone'. Franklin ain't as purdy though lol
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                            • Originally posted by Nitrotank View Post
                              I've got 10:1 that Kyle has no idea who on earth you're referring to. But I do see a slight resemblence.
                              Bite me I'm assuming he's a UFC fighter or something?

                              Thanks Todd! I get that all the time, "You look like...." I've gotten everything from Gustavo, Lou Ferrigno, Pudge Rodriguez, A-Rod, Stiffler from American Pie, etc...
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                              • Originally posted by bhman6 View Post
                                plus hydro is going to measure visceral fat which isn't visible under the skin, and a 2% skinfold reading might realistically be 2-3 times higher than that via hydro or something like DEXA, MRI, etc.

                                I've actually gotten a skinfold done at 4% and then gotten a DEXA done 10 minutes later that read me close to 9%
                                Same here as well. I got the hydro done and i was 11.3%. About 10-15 minutes later i got the fold done and i was 4.7%.
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