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"""""""""""""""Layne, I was wondering if you could look at this precontest diet and let me know any problems you see. This is a 3 day diet with cardio #1 done in the morning on an empty stomach, and #2 cardio done in the evenings. Weight training is done 5 days a week. This diet is for a 150lbs. womans bodybuilder. Her lean mass is 135lbs. The fat just does not seem to want to respond anymore. She has made great progress for the first 10 weeks, yet we only have 6 weeks left. I would love to see her lose about 3-5 more lbs. of bodyfat.
Supplements:
-Whole food vitamin
-Calcium
-Fiber
-Fish oil
-Evening primrose
Diet #1
1. 6 Egg whites, 1 yoke
2. 6oz. Tilapia, ¾ cup greens
3. 6oz. Chicken, ¾ cup greens
4. 8oz. Tilapia
5. 6oz. Chicken, ¼ cup walnuts
Cardio
1. 60 min stairmaster
2. 70 min Elliptical
Diet #2
1. 8 Egg whites
2. 6 oz. Tilapia, 1 serving oats
3. 6oz. Tilapia, 1 cup greens
4. 6oz. Chicken, 5oz. sweet potato
5. 1 ½ scoops protein powder, ½ cup greens
Cardio
1. 60 min. Fast walk on Treadmill, High incline
2. 60 min. 2 min walk, 2 min jog on Treadmill
Diet #3
1. 2 scoops protein powder
2. 6oz. Tilapia, ½ cup greens
3. 1 ½ scoops protein powder
4. 6oz Tilapia, ½ cup greens
5. 6 egg whites
Cardio
1. 60 min Elliptical
2. 70 min. Stairmaster
*She has had ZERO muscle loss at this point. Any advice would be great. Thank you.*""""""""
By all means you dont have to beleive me but here is my two cents.
Either cut out day two and turn this into a all low carb diet for a few weeks or add some HIIT training. But i wouldnt do both. either way you may have to lower the carbs more.
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well the carbohydrate transporter into the small intestine is sodium dependant and it has been shown that low sodium intake will reduce it's activity. that means you are loading a bunch of carbs but they aren't being taken into circulation as effectively. the excess carbs in the lumen of the gut will draw in water to dilute the solutes and make you hold water in the gut. Furthermore since you are cutting sodium and water your levels of aldosterone are drastically elevated to try and conserve sodium in the kidneys and so your kidneys reabsorb sodium into circulation to maintain blood sodium levels but since sodium must be reabsorbed with a molecular of water now you are also reabsorbing H20 as well. Only now since your are on a low sodium diet your blood pressure will be reduced and you won't have the nessecary pressure in the vascular system to maintain the water that you reabsorbed there and it will leak into the interstitial (subcutaneous) space. So now you have effectively caused yourself to retain more water in the gut and in the subcutaneous layer as well as succeeded in flattening yourself out beyond repair by cutting sodium and water
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Ok Layne, another biochem/endocrin/nutrition question for you...
All this talk about GDA's and what not seems appealing to a certain extent as with any supplement known to man. But what gets me about GDA's as for offseason use is that they are always suggested to be taken right after workouts to help insulin "do its job" and hence lessing the insulin output needed to shuttle carbs into the muscle.
I can see how using these supplemental aids could help guys or gals who tend to get soft when eating even slightly to many carbs in the offseason yet they need to do so to gain mass. Using them in those later meals of the day sure. But why would you want to cause less insulin response after a workout? Would this not be the time to let insulin rise naturaly? I mean you already have GLUT-4 receptor translocation on hyperdrive at this point screaming to suck up carbs in the respective muscle groups.
Contest periods in another issue, lets not go there.MS - Human Sport Performance
NSCA - CPT, CSCS
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Layne (wrote this on the other thread in the No Bull section, but decided to post it in here), when you eat your 4 times a day meals where does your pre-mid-post shake go into that (if you still do that)? Would you count it as part of meal #2 if you workout after breakfast? For example, eat breakfast, wait about 2 hours, workout while drinking, etc. than 30-45 minutes after have your second meal? That just seems kind of odd because your waiting less than the 4-5 hours before starting to consume the shake, etc. Probably overanalyzing.
Also, I take it you don't believe that there is a certain amount of carbs that you can take in per sitting (bodytypes withstanding), than? Just meet the caloric goal for the day. Hopefully I didn't miss this in here someplace.Last edited by Fitzchivalry; September 12, 2008, 01:13 PM.
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Originally posted by str8flexed View Postwell the carbohydrate transporter into the small intestine is sodium dependant and it has been shown that low sodium intake will reduce it's activity. that means you are loading a bunch of carbs but they aren't being taken into circulation as effectively. the excess carbs in the lumen of the gut will draw in water to dilute the solutes and make you hold water in the gut. Furthermore since you are cutting sodium and water your levels of aldosterone are drastically elevated to try and conserve sodium in the kidneys and so your kidneys reabsorb sodium into circulation to maintain blood sodium levels but since sodium must be reabsorbed with a molecular of water now you are also reabsorbing H20 as well. Only now since your are on a low sodium diet your blood pressure will be reduced and you won't have the nessecary pressure in the vascular system to maintain the water that you reabsorbed there and it will leak into the interstitial (subcutaneous) space. So now you have effectively caused yourself to retain more water in the gut and in the subcutaneous layer as well as succeeded in flattening yourself out beyond repair by cutting sodium and water
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Layne, I have a question regarding an unbalanced bodypart. My left pec is very underdeveloped in comparison to the right. Do you think the best approach to balance them would be more dumbell work or two incorporate a second chest day were only the left side was worked?
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Originally posted by str8flexed View Postwell the carbohydrate transporter into the small intestine is sodium dependant and it has been shown that low sodium intake will reduce it's activity. that means you are loading a bunch of carbs but they aren't being taken into circulation as effectively. the excess carbs in the lumen of the gut will draw in water to dilute the solutes and make you hold water in the gut. Furthermore since you are cutting sodium and water your levels of aldosterone are drastically elevated to try and conserve sodium in the kidneys and so your kidneys reabsorb sodium into circulation to maintain blood sodium levels but since sodium must be reabsorbed with a molecular of water now you are also reabsorbing H20 as well. Only now since your are on a low sodium diet your blood pressure will be reduced and you won't have the nessecary pressure in the vascular system to maintain the water that you reabsorbed there and it will leak into the interstitial (subcutaneous) space. So now you have effectively caused yourself to retain more water in the gut and in the subcutaneous layer as well as succeeded in flattening yourself out beyond repair by cutting sodium and waterEric Helms Controlled Labs Athlete NASM CPT & PES
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