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Who is the biggest natural bodybuilder? (Why are they small bitches?)

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  • Originally posted by Ron Harris View Post
    Yeah - that's really tall for a bb in general.

    If I had to project based on the average 5-8 natty, I would say a 6-foot guy would probably be about 205-215 in shape and 230-250 in the off-season.
    my avi - April 2007 - 6'1 @ 198lbs. but i made many mistakes relearning my body at 38 from the prior show at age 30. did not process carbs the same way. was down 12 days with flu/bronchitis 6-7 weeks out.

    now 240lbs 15% bf tops. but my abs are starting to show so??? but Foreskin will prob chime in and neg my legs as if i claimed them to be my strong point and do not train them whatsoever. he claims im 5'7 and that must be true b/c Foreskin is all knowing. LOL!

    im improving & training hard despite certain physical limitation and busting my ass 12 hr RN shifts 4-5 x's per week on the hosptial floors!
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    • just wanted to point this out...somebody made the comment that cheating in natural bbing was just as common as regular sports and the olympics etc....but honestly that analogy doesn't hold true...there isn't Baseball and Natural Baseball...there is just the minors and the MLB...you get paid a lot more and it is a team sport with more pressure to be the best....you don't just sign up for the competition like in bodybuilding...

      in bodybuilding you have the choice to compete in a drug tested or natural show....its clearly deliniated...and MOST bodybuilders get into this sport because it is a sport of discipline, focus, and finding out what you are capable of....that attitude doesn't go hand in hand with "well, I'm so insecure I'm going to juice and enter the natural show" and the guys that do that normally don't win anyway, they don't have the heart to get shredded in the first place....a guy who placed 11th in the natural O popped positive for juice lol...

      Obviously it happens of course....and those guys/gals have to be some pretty delusional people....but you'd have to be delusional or just have a huge chip on your shoulder to honestly believe every top natural bber is on the sauce...that's just silly
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      • Originally posted by bodyfx2 View Post
        Incorrect! I could not get down to 195 unless I cut a leg off!
        Who do you think you are kidding here? Your legs are like a half assed NPC middleweight at best.

        You weren't an once over 180 in that video. You have NO lats, Zero legs, and arms of a women. You have no back thickness at all.

        So where is your so-called weight coming from? Your over inflated ego possibly? I think so.........

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        • I don't think Eric is on AAS. He is rather small and avg compared to the types of BB (NPC, IFBB) I'm used to seeing. He just looks like a everyday gym guy to me. IF he is on steroids they ain't doing much. I never saw him compete until today.

          I'm just not impressed by most real natural BB'ers. But thats ok. I do think most of them have very skewed and uninformed views on steroids. A little androgel hurts nobody.
          "You told Harpo to beat me" - Color Purple

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          • Originally posted by Geminon View Post
            I don't think Eric is on AAS. As if what you think matters to Eric or anyone other than yourself! He is rather small and avg compared to the types of BB (NPC, IFBB) I'm used to seeing. So how do you stack up? Are you enhanced or not? Where's your mighty pics? He just looks like a everyday gym guy to me. Where do you workout... Mt Olympia? As if Eric's body is average anywhere except on an IFBB pro stage. Get real dude... You're saying that 50% of the people who train in your gym look better than Eric and 50% don't. Average huh? Think for a minute before you type such nonsence! IF he is on steroids they ain't doing much. I never saw him compete until today. Did he claim to be on or ever test postive? NO! So now you're being an ass.

            I'm just not impressed by most real natural BB'ers. But thats ok. You know, they know, we all know it's okay that you're not impressed... as I told Foreskin & Paraplegic... IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!! I do think most of them have very skewed and uninformed views on steroids. And all AAS users are AAS gurus. How many average Joe's are on the juice and look like they barely train if at all? Quite a few, mostly due to poor diet, poor training, poor BB knowledge in general & mostly poor work ethic which gets you no where on or off AAS. A little androgel hurts nobody.
            Your anti-natural posts are tiresome, uneducated, biased, idiotic opinion. Post your holier than though supreme physique pic, stay off natural based threads non-contributor, and get some couseling or Prozac, Paxil, Celexa... your choice!
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            • Originally posted by nordik View Post
              Exactly. Big Crete is the real deal. I personally know some non-competitive natural freaks. Not huge but phenominal naturals. We're talking minimal to no supplements. The best two are not the biggest, about 5'11 200 & 6' 210, both very lean. They both started in the "joint". I got them on protein supplements but they would not even use creatine until recently. They train ferociously & eat pretty disciplined daily. Very strong but can train at an unbelievable rapid pace. This group of guys are so amazing that I want to do a documentary on them soon. I just dont have the cam gear yet.
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              • Originally posted by Quelly View Post
                just wanted to point this out...somebody made the comment that cheating in natural bbing was just as common as regular sports and the olympics etc....but honestly that analogy doesn't hold true...there isn't Baseball and Natural Baseball...there is just the minors and the MLB...you get paid a lot more and it is a team sport with more pressure to be the best....you don't just sign up for the competition like in bodybuilding...

                in bodybuilding you have the choice to compete in a drug tested or natural show....its clearly deliniated...and MOST bodybuilders get into this sport because it is a sport of discipline, focus, and finding out what you are capable of....that attitude doesn't go hand in hand with "well, I'm so insecure I'm going to juice and enter the natural show" and the guys that do that normally don't win anyway, they don't have the heart to get shredded in the first place....a guy who placed 11th in the natural O popped positive for juice lol...

                Obviously it happens of course....and those guys/gals have to be some pretty delusional people....but you'd have to be delusional or just have a huge chip on your shoulder to honestly believe every top natural bber is on the sauce...that's just silly
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                • I've got such massive respect for ALL natural bodybuilders, some of the one's I've done shoot and interviewed and seen train are half the size but TWICE as strong and harder trainers on the whole as us juiceheads...(I include myself in that before you all start wetting your pants, I haven't the confidence certainly not to compete without gear, hell no)

                  I've seen 190lb natural guy's squatting merrily and deep with 5 plates a side piece of piss...

                  Ever seen Rob Hope from the UK? He looks nowt in clothes but on stage, holy fuck...I wouldn't mind looking even a quarter as good as this dude, he's freakishly strong too and has been made a real example of with the testing procedure's getting tested over and over again and always, always coming back totally negative...

                  Respect -

                  Fucking inspiring and freak of freaks, making a statement like the one you opened with WITHOUT an avatar is opening youself up to a world of shit/flaming...You'll look like Freddy Krueger when the rest of the MD members are finished with ya...
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                  • Originally posted by ForemanRules View Post
                    He looks good for a natty but I would guess more like 195.
                    That's freaking hysterical...I saw the guy weigh in and he was 216 or 219.

                    I love the freaking haters on this board. You guys rock..lol.

                    I stood NEXT to Broser at that contest and he was freaking HUGE! Pictures don't do most competitors justice - in any sense and at any level. Especially the one posted of Eric.
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                    • Hoss - Well according to Foreskin I'm 5' 4" with 14 inch arms and a huge gh gut!!! Er try 6 foot tall numbnuts...

                      He's clearly such an expert though so don't argue with him...(he get's off on it I think)
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                      • Originally posted by Giles View Post
                        Hoss - Well according to Foreskin I'm 5' 4" with 14 inch arms and a huge gh gut!!! Er try 6 foot tall numbnuts...

                        He's clearly such an expert though so don't argue with him...(he get's off on it I think)
                        Actually, I wasn't referring to just him....I just think it's hysterical. I know Eric personally and he's a good friend and he's freaking HUGE!

                        Now if someone wants to call me a little bitch and say I'm small that's fine...lol...hell I'm only 5'7" and compete between 155 & 160. I can take it! LOL
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                        • Originally posted by ajdmucle View Post
                          My friend is 19 years old and is 100% natural. He wont even take a test booster. Everyone accuses him a steroids and it use to get to him but now he takes it as a compliment. People dont like what they cant get

                          He's 18 in this pic

                          i can see why he gets shit, hes got the purple/acne looking shit common with roids on his shoulders. Can see it easy here. But im sure you know better then us. he looks great regardless if hes on shit or not... hard work is hard work. Drugs dont make the bodybuilder and never did.

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                          • Originally posted by bodyfx2 View Post
                            Actually no, that was the night show so I had more carbs in me and weighed about 219. You can't tell anything from that video...it makes me look half my size, LOL. Here are two pics 3 days after the show at 224 after several sodium filled junk meals.
                            I would say from previous pics and your AV that you juiced in past or just low dose but going by stage pics you def look natty, just dont have that killer hard juice look. I am the same way actually. Shit somtimes when i juiced in past i would use 6 weeks winny and anavar and still look similair to you on stage but im about 212.

                            hats off to you i dont see why anyone would ever claim not natty when you obviously look it and healthy on stage. Your off season is what most people will accuse on, since most juicers dont even look as good as you. Thats the usual haters, guys gassed that cant even pull there weight at a natty show lol

                            Good job man.

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                            • Michael Lockett
                              "I'll rip out your eyeball and piss on your brain."

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                              • Originally posted by bbj View Post
                                Michael Lockett

                                i hope your being sarcastic lol...otherwise you belive this guy and his bs, ya he eat licorice and candy and like 3 meals a day and hes 240+ on stage. Another myostatin flex wheeler lol

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